Quail hatching eggs/birds/layers

[www.hatchitincubators.com]

I would like some views of the forum, we have bred quail for sometime on and off, I have recently been thinking about ramping up production, one market would be the falcon market, I would be able to supply hatching eggs, breedig birds and frozen birds, I have several types of the Japanese Quail, including the Jumbo's which are about 12 to 14Oz, what I want to know is how much demand is there in the falconry market, I would think a lot, and from what I have seen with some other major suppliers the quality is not as good as it could be. I don't intend to ever be mass production this is a extension of a hobby, but I think that a supplier of good quality hatching eggs, and birds is essential and it seems to me that cost/volume has taken over ? I would welcome your views, we will have birds and eggs available in about 4 weeks time

[Skylark]

I started a few months ago hatching and bringing on quail to about six weeks then put in freezer. they are just standard Japanese quail as I find them just the right size for feeding. Have about 200 in freezer now.
I had a lot of eggs that I just threw away so now I supply a couple of farm shops with them the egg boxes are cheap and they are not covered by the same rulings of chicken eggs. Also wife has now started pickling eggs and we are selling them all this pays for the production of the quail for my birds of which I have about 22 to feed

[Hacker]

I would like some views of the forum, we have bred quail for sometime on and off, I have recently been thinking about ramping up production, one market would be the falcon market, I would be able to supply hatching eggs, breedig birds and frozen birds, I have several types of the Japanese Quail, including the Jumbo's which are about 12 to 14Oz, what I want to know is how much demand is there in the falconry market, I would think a lot, and from what I have seen with some other major suppliers the quality is not as good as it could be. I don't intend to ever be mass production this is a extension of a hobby, but I think that a supplier of good quality hatching eggs, and birds is essential and it seems to me that cost/volume has taken over ? I would welcome your views, we will have birds and eggs available in about 4 weeks time

Any idea on prices?

[www.hatchitincubators.com]

Hi

Eggs will be £2.75 a dozen mixed, or £3 a dozen for the jumbo birds, birds will be between £4 and £6 a pair depending on how many you buy, dead birds will be prime large quail 70p each box of 25, standard birds 60p each box of 50

The eggs will be available from 2 weeks time, the birds dead or allive will be about 8 week time

Regards
Lewis

[Shaun Byrne]

I would like some views of the forum, we have bred quail for sometime on and off, I have recently been thinking about ramping up production, one market would be the falcon market, I would be able to supply hatching eggs, breedig birds and frozen birds, I have several types of the Japanese Quail, including the Jumbo's which are about 12 to 14Oz, what I want to know is how much demand is there in the falconry market, I would think a lot, and from what I have seen with some other major suppliers the quality is not as good as it could be. I don't intend to ever be mass production this is a extension of a hobby, but I think that a supplier of good quality hatching eggs, and birds is essential and it seems to me that cost/volume has taken over ? I would welcome your views, we will have birds and eggs available in about 4 weeks time

If they are quality birds you couldn't breed enough to keep up with demand during the breeding season. What about delivery?

[www.hatchitincubators.com]

Delivery is one issue I need to think about, how do frozen quail normally get delivered ? I know honey brook use there own freezer vans, I had looked at polystyrene boxes which would keep the goods cold in transit, we use a next day courier but would like to know if this is a practice currently used ?

[Shaun Byrne]

Delivery is one issue I need to think about, how do frozen quail normally get delivered ? I know honey brook use there own freezer vans, I had looked at polystyrene boxes which would keep the goods cold in transit, we use a next day courier but would like to know if this is a practice currently used ?

I get mine on an overnight courier. They come in cardboard trays the same as Honeybrook which are then packed in a larger polystyrene lined box, three deep.

What about live birds, pick up only I presume?

[www.hatchitincubators.com]

Delivery of the frozen birds is as I thought, or hoped, live birds would be collection only, I don't know of any courier willing to carry birds now except for the specialist services but they are quite expensive, I guess it depends on how many you want and where you are located

[Hacker]

Lewis,
sounds good to me.
I can collect as i am just down the road, stick up a thread when they are ready.

[Onyx25]

Lewis,
sounds good to me.
I can collect as i am just down the road, stick up a thread when they are ready.

Second that I would also be interested in live and frozen birds!

[Pendleside]

Second that I would also be interested in live and frozen birds!

ditto the live birds .

perhaps my good friend tightarse could deliver them for me next time he travels back to gods country ? :yawinkle:

[Steve Rose]

i'm doing chinese painted for my merlins this year
steve

[www.hatchitincubators.com]

If anyone who is looking for birds/eggs or frozen lets me know how many they want I will start to plan the orders,

Predator steve, why the chinese ? why don't you use small japs ? I would be interested to know

[Finnish]

I would by Quail of you Lewis let me no when there ready...

[TimDog80]

Delivery is one issue I need to think about, how do frozen quail normally get delivered ? I know honey brook use there own freezer vans, I had looked at polystyrene boxes which would keep the goods cold in transit, we use a next day courier but would like to know if this is a practice currently used ?
a little info which may be of help to you.........
a large quail supplier i have bought from were a bit cheaper on eggs but had a fixed price on delivery (so the more you bought the more beneficial to you) so i had to buy between mate to make it worthwhile ordering!!!
basically with your quail being slighly more expensive for me to buy eggs from you it would depend on if you had a fixed delivery price or if you will break it down depending on how many dozen eggs sold???

atb
tim:D

[www.hatchitincubators.com]

The delivery would be fixed at £6.50 for any mainland uk address.

[www.hatchitincubators.com]

Also on the eggs if you order 4 dozen or more I am looking at discounting the eggs to £2.50 per dozen, to be honest orders under 4 dozen are not really worth messing about with for all involved. with quail taking so little space you had may as well incubate 100 eggs that 50,

[TimDog80]

The delivery would be fixed at £6.50 for any mainland uk address.
seems a fair price!
Also on the eggs if you order 4 dozen or more I am looking at discounting the eggs to £2.50 per dozen, to be honest orders under 4 dozen are not really worth messing about with for all involved. with quail taking so little space you had may as well incubate 100 eggs that 50,
im talking between 200 to 400:yawinkle:

[www.hatchitincubators.com]

That would be ok, at the moment I am just checking fertility on some new strain birds I have, but they will be ok as the source I use I have used for years, so in about 2 to 4 weeks time I will start sending orders out on a first come first served basis, let me know if I can help further

[TimDog80]

That would be ok, at the moment I am just checking fertility on some new strain birds I have, but they will be ok as the source I use I have used for years, so in about 2 to 4 weeks time I will start sending orders out on a first come first served basis, let me know if I can help further
certainly will in a few weeks time:yawinkle:

[Steve Rose]

If anyone who is looking for birds/eggs or frozen lets me know how many they want I will start to plan the orders,

Predator steve, why the chinese ? why don't you use small japs ? I would be interested to know
for size bone structure im using 3 week japs at the moment the thinking behind it is chinese at 3 wks will be ideal bone size etc for merlins but with home rearing rather than mass produced should be able to up the general meat/vitamins/etc quality
steve

[OutHawkn]

I dont know how you guys do things over there but I'm surprised no one is asking questions about what goes into the quail. I'm a small quail supplier here and we seem to be pickier(sp) about the health of the raptor, or am I just not reading this right?

[Shaun Byrne]

I dont know how you guys do things over there but I'm surprised no one is asking questions about what goes into the quail. I'm a small quail supplier here and we seem to be pickier(sp) about the health of the raptor, or am I just not reading this right?


You're spot on Bill. No one I know of gives much thought to it past the point of wheather they are E enhanced (me included:oops:).

[OutHawkn]

You're spot on Bill. No one I know of gives much thought to it past the point of wheather they are E enhanced (me included:oops:).

Thanks , I thought I was missing something ...again!:roll:

[Shaun Byrne]

Any pointers Bill?:wink:

[Hacker]

Most commercial breeders will ensure there birds are fed the correct crumbs grower pellets etc in order for optimum growth.
Poor feed means slow growth, which means less profit per bird.
Modern feed compounds will provide a quail of the optimum size and health as economicaly as possible.
This in turn will provide a nutritously balanced quail to feed to your bop`s.

[Hacker]

Be interested to know what a good quality commercial feed compound for growers will not provide the quail, that your bops will be lacking in?
Over here there are fairly stringent rules over what feed compounds contain.
What are you adding into their feed compounds and at what stage of their growth cycle?
I personaly feed a balanced diet of more than one food source to ensure that the bops get what they need.

[OutHawkn]

Be interested to know what a good quality commercial feed compound for growers will not provide the quail, that your bops will be lacking in?
Over here there are fairly stringent rules over what feed compounds contain.
What are you adding into their feed compounds and at what stage of their growth cycle?
I personaly feed a balanced diet of more than one food source to ensure that the bops get what they need.


For instance and this is only one , captive raptors usually lack vitamin E. A commercial quail grower doesnt provide any extra to compensate for it.
And thats only one example of vitamins.

But you know what I didnt intend to high-jack this thread and just realized I did, so I better shut up:idea::supz:

[Hacker]

It`s all good info.

[www.hatchitincubators.com]

The birds I raise are fed on Marriages feeds, the chicks a starter crumb and the adults a layer pellet, these are designed for quail, I then add a multivitmain to the water which contains a whole range of vitamins including E, this producees in my view a good quality bird, I am not a huge commercial breeder so the birds are produced to what I think is a high standard.

It might be worth starting a new thread in the main forum to debate the diet of quail / Falcons etc.

Lewis