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Jester
21-01-2005, 09:13 AM
I went to the doctor yesterday cos i have a bloody sore shoulder and it turns out i have a frozen shoulder which can often take ages to heal :(

problem is its my left shoulder and i cant even carry jester on it now let alone have him land on hy fist.
he is definitely NOT interested in flying to or even sitting on my right hand. (i used one of my bike gloves cos i dont have a right hand falconry glove) dont think its cos of the glove though, i think he just dont want to sit on the right.

has anyone had to get their birds to sit on opposite hand to normal ........ is there a way to get them to do it or is my mrs gonna have to take over the flying and training for a while???




Saker-Clive
21-01-2005, 10:13 AM
Can you not support your forearm on a thumb stick or something?
I doubt that he will want to sit on the other hand now as he is 'conditioned' to that way of approach etc.

I am left handed and do virtually everything left handed but decided on taking up falconry, that I would practise it 'traditionally', and have a left hand glove and use my right to tie the knot etc.

Hope the shoulder heals soon, or it will be cortisone jabs..............ouch!

Jester
21-01-2005, 10:30 AM
first cortisone jab yesterday :cry:

i thought about a thumbstick idea as well but i would need a wheel on the bottom of it for walking with.

Jester seems to prefer flying to a perch or the ground for food but i still need to be able to carry him and weigh him and stuff.


yeah im left handed too and decided to practise falconry / owl keeping right handed

Shaun Byrne
21-01-2005, 10:44 AM
It might be the glove Jester, my FHH wont fly to any glove but my regular one, in fact if I want her off a kill super quick I can change gloves and she will let go and jump away. Handy if she's nailed a stoat or weasel, I like to release them (sometimes) lol.

Jester
21-01-2005, 10:50 AM
hmmmmmmmm now i need to find a left handed falconer and see if he will let me borrow a right hand falconry glove to see if i can change him



ummmmmmmmm how about if i feed him up and try to encourage him to moult early then i should be fixed enough by the time he finishes. would that maybe work ?? and is there anything i would need to do to get him started??

Wightwings
21-01-2005, 08:06 PM
agree with H4 Jester especially with the owls i have found. they seem to get used to coming in a certain way and to a certain landing surface.

had it myself with diferent coloured gloves and a Bengal. light tan evry time, the green or dark tan no chance.........fussy sod :roll: Good luck with the shoulder :cry:

Bubo
21-01-2005, 08:34 PM
Even tho kadabra is still at early training, she wont come to any other glove other than the green ones i have here. He doesnt mind which hand (cos i have right and left hand one :lol: they are welders gloves) but will not land his lovely little feet on any other ones. so they must all be fussy :lol:

hopes you get better soon hun or i'll have to come over and take care of jester for ya :wink:
bubo

Helen_Aldred-Jones
21-01-2005, 09:03 PM
colour definately does make a difference- I tried using a red welders glove with the harris hawks and they wouldn't fly to the fist with the red glove, but as soon as I put the falconry glove on they cam eback instantly...

Bubo
21-01-2005, 09:59 PM
oops i put 'she' sorry kadabs.
some peeps have the cheek to say they are colour blind :shock: well if they are then they are more snobbier than we thought!! cant have precious tarsi on common gloves :P interesting tho!! has anyone tried the same style of glove but just a different colour?
bubo

Jiff
21-01-2005, 11:21 PM
my bird will come nowhere near me if i aint got her glove on, jester could you not make a sling of some sort so that it bares the weight instead of you'r shoulder.

BlackHawke
22-01-2005, 12:12 AM
i agree with SS.i'm left handed and i looked into getting a right handed glove after speaking to a few falconers they said your bird gets used to sitting on one side and i probably wouldnt get jade to come to my right hand. personally i dont see why not.

just a wee bit of useless info traditionaly in medievil times people who were left handed were seen as dimwitted!! mmmmmm not me! :roll:

Varmint
22-01-2005, 07:23 AM
i need to find a left handed falconer and see if he will let me borrow a right hand falconry glove to see if i can change him

When you come to the meet, bring along Jester in a box and i'll let you try with one of my Right handed Gloves!

Varmint
22-01-2005, 07:26 AM
More interesting Blurb!

Left in Latin is "Sinnestri" meaning as i understand it " Sinister" where as right is "Dextra" so in medieval times, you were thought to be a witch if left handed, hense right handed falconry!

Bubo
22-01-2005, 08:27 AM
[quote="Blackhawke"]just a wee bit of useless info traditionaly in medievil times people who were left handed were seen as dimwitted!! quote]


hmmmmmmmm that comment is very tempting, but as i am a very nice person I wouldnt dream of answering that times havent changed much :lol: :lol: :lol:

I didnt realise that left handed people were seen as dimwitted or even witchy. i learnt that the fellas has to fight with weapons in their right hand so i thought that they carried birds on their left cos it was a free hand :roll: more useless info but interesting all the same.
bubo

Jester
22-01-2005, 10:24 AM
everyone is born right handed ..................... only the greatest of us overcome it.


cheers for the offer Varmint :partyman: ill bring him down if he is in a good mood :)

BlackHawke
22-01-2005, 11:36 AM
us left handers are a very special race! i must admit though since i took up falconry i can use my right hand much easier for a multitude of tasks than before!!!! :D not gonna say a word!!!!!!

Colohen
23-01-2005, 05:39 AM
I work Khan (GHO) with both hands so he'll man eather but will only fly to the laft as it is been his training . I am shure he could be retrained to fly to thr right if I pushed it ! Jester could to but not as easy.
Years ago when I first started school I wrote with both hands and done about everything else the same , however I had a teacher so back woods she freaked . Made me use only my right hand , tied my left to my belt to make shure of it . Did the same to a lefty in my class ! Now I'am for the most part a righty.
Point is , you can be retrained to do most anything but will it be better in the long run ? Will you wont to go back to the left hand maning or stay with thr right hand ?

Get well soon!!!!!!!

Jester
24-01-2005, 12:21 AM
mrs was kind last night and took him in to see me :D
i got my right hand bike glove again and tried to pick him up. Had a bit of a chirp to himself as i put hand behind his legs then he stepped back onto the glove :D and sat there for half hour with no problems at all

took him outside on right and no problems then got him to fly in aviary a couple times to right glove so it seems things aint so bad after all :D :D

Shaun Byrne
24-01-2005, 07:31 AM
Looks like you've cracked it mate! Good luck.

Bubo
24-01-2005, 09:44 AM
well done al and your mrs. he'll be ok it is just something new for him to get around. hope your shoulder gets better shortly tho
bubo

Wightwings
24-01-2005, 05:37 PM
well done Jes......now get well yourself