(Blue) on Pheasants.

[CJTaylor]

Trying again to post some pics, Blue, is out of a femail gyr, crossed with a 5/8ths gyr 3/8ths saker, so technicaly hes 13/16th gyr!, having flown mant diff hybreds and peregrines i can honestly say hes very different. he flys well in any weather, and infact yesterday when he caught the cock bird it was nigh on gale force wind with driving rain.i would welcome comments from any of you guys flying gyrs of very high % gyrs. he is gyr like in both looks and manner,very powerfull but also occasionaly a bit stroppy,now hes learned how to fly properly hes a joy!that might sound a strange statement,and for the guys who dont know what i mean, often big falcons take a while to learn how to cope with their own speed and power, unlike hawks etc, they can actualy frighten themselves, hence before tying to hunt ,time needs to be spent letting them learn their craft...colin
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/GyrxSaker180108002.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/GyrxSaker180108019.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/78thgyrxsaker170108013.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/GyrxSaker180108005.jpg

[CJTaylor]

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/GyrxSaker180108063.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/GyrxSaker180108012.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/78thgyrxsaker170108047.jpg

[CJTaylor]

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/78thgyrxsaker170108051.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/GyrxSaker180108005.jpg
Big thanks to Kev Massey the man! for holding my hand, ps hes pr and flys around 2lb 2 oz {the falcon ,and not kev}...colin

[Ben C]

Hi Colin,

I know ****** all........and I mean ****** all,

but the guys I watched flying gyrs say it took them nearly 3 years to come good. I personally saw one of Dan Konkels mount to a good 800/1000 ft pitch and lock on overhead without so much as a heartbeat.....in a good 30 mph wind and minus 20 degrees. It followed the falconer for a good 10 minutes into a field and THEN took on a grouse......the grouse FLATTENED IT in terms of pace and ability..........probably the best single piece of falconry I have so far seen....it was pure skill..............they are too big for me, but I admire them none the less.

[Big JoeJoe]

Very nice Colin:supz: The pics are superb mate :supz::supz::supz:

Cheers Joe

[Alf]

Colin I love that dog on point. Alf.

[Ben C]

Colin I love that dog on point. Alf.

AINT IT THE TRUTH

[CJTaylor]

Hi Colin,

I know ****** all........and I mean ****** all,

but the guys I watched flying gyrs say it took them nearly 3 years to come good. I personally saw one of Dan Konkels mount to a good 800/1000 ft pitch and lock on overhead without so much as a heartbeat.....in a good 30 mph wind and minus 20 degrees. It followed the falconer for a good 10 minutes into a field and THEN took on a grouse......the grouse FLATTENED IT in terms of pace and ability..........probably the best single piece of falconry I have so far seen....it was pure skill..............they are too big for me, but I admire them none the less.thanks Ben, im hoping to see him moult out as his father was pure white!, however with the amount of sky he can cover thats far from certain!...colin

[CJTaylor]

Colin I love that dog on point. Alf. shes good in any enviroment Alf, weather its cover or moorland, the gsps getting a bit old in the tooth now at ten, and she was one of the best ive bred...colin

[B C]

Nice One Col

The dog's coming along well and so is Blue, and if you keep listening to your uncle Bern - one day you'll become a good falconer too! lol.

Well done mate, I know the tiercel has been a bit tetchy to say the least - but he's worth it and now that he's killing and confident, he will get better and better.

Bernie

[CJTaylor]

Very nice Colin:supz: The pics are superb mate :supz::supz::supz:

Cheers Joe
Thanks joe, technology mate, what was life like before we had cameras:..col:

[CJTaylor]

Nice One Col

The dog's coming along well and so is Blue, and if you keep listening to your uncle Bern - one day you'll become a good falconer too! lol.

Well done mate, I know the tiercel has been a bit tetchy to say the least - but he's worth it and now that he's killing and confident, he will get better and better.

BernieBern ,except for looks, i want to be just like you, oh! and as long as im still better endowed lol:rolleyes:

[DesO'Neile]

Colin
I see why you rang me. Those are much better pictures of the dog. It isn't quite as heavy set as I was expecting, knowing the breeding, but as you know I prefer a spare dog anyway.
The bird looks in great nick too, looking very like Thor but lighter.
I have Thor taking the lure and I feel he is ready to go free but the stuff to replace what was stolen with the HH hasn't arrived from Garlands. I should have chased it up earlier. Typical.
I had all the dogs out today and you'll never guess who was man of the match. Your favourite black Pointer.

http://www.huntingpictures.net/photo/012541

Jalad.

[CJTaylor]

Colin
I see why you rang me. Those are much better pictures of the dog. It isn't quite as heavy set as I was expecting, knowing the breeding, but as you know I prefer a spare dog anyway.
The bird looks in great nick too, looking very like Thor but lighter.
I have Thor taking the lure and I feel he is ready to go free but the stuff to replace what was stolen with the HH hasn't arrived from Garlands. I should have chased it up earlier. Typical.
I had all the dogs out today and you'll never guess who was man of the match. Your favourite black Pointer.

http://www.huntingpictures.net/photo/012541

Jalad.Thanks for that Des, i can see you retiring jallad early , in the lake district:yawinkle:...colin

[Gyr]

Hello colin, great looking falcon, nice pics too:D kerry.

[Yeoman]

Cracking pics colin, is that the land you used to fly the gosses on.
Kev

[Berkut]

Cracking pics Colin.Looks like you're having fun. And Des I love the black pointer.

ATB,
Neil

[KiteTrainer]

Excellent stuff Colin, thought you were a Gos man:lol:

[CJTaylor]

Thanks lads,and Kerry, John ive mostly flown falcons for the last 8 years:), Neil you may have to fight me for the black pointer:rolleyes:,lol, although i may breed some similar in the future!, and Kev, yes i do fly hawks and falcons on the same land, two of us lease 2500 acres purely for falconry although i do some deer stalking and fox lamping on the ground when needed, it also contains a 150 acre wood , in the first pic the fell land in the background is good in summer for rabbits, i once had a ferru, who would sore up and down the fell and cars would often stop,(theres a road in front) the drivers wondering what the f--- it was?.....Colin

[B C]

I have to say Col that Paul Bevan does breed some nice birds - think I may have to speak with him about something similar for myself - then I will show you their true potential!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS Many Happy Returns you sad old g*t.

Bernie

[CJTaylor]

:rolleyes:I have to say Col that Paul Bevan does breed some nice birds - think I may have to speak with him about something similar for myself - then I will show you their true potential!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS Many Happy Returns you sad old g*t.

BernieThanks for that bern, but remember im still much younger than you my lad,lol,i agree regarding pauls birds, however hes a guy ageing fast:rolleyes:

[CJTaylor]

Just a couple more pics just to practise posting them!, one is blue stepping of a kill and the others are self evident...colin
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/GyrxSaker180108032.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/GyrxSaker180108020.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/GyrxSaker180108043.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/78thgyrxsaker170108025.jpg

[Falcons7]

The pup looks like she has come on well colin ,she looks like her dad but points like her mam ,pleased she is doin the buz for you , hope everythin goes well mate

[Natch]

top pic,s 8-)

[Drake]

Thanks for that bern, but remember im still much younger than you my lad,lol,i agree regarding pauls birds, however hes a guy ageing fast.

Hi CJ,

I was at Paul's place the other day, and yer right he's aging badly, in fact I thought it was Christopher Biggins. But he always speaks well of you:prayer:, he said he couldn't decide whether you looked like Darren Gough or Robbie Keene! Then we had a think about it and decided you look like Brad Pitt............in pantie hose:butthead:!

Happy Birtday Col,
Drake:finga:

[Gos]

nice falcon what weight is he hunting at

[Gos]

O Yes I Can See Is Weight Under The Pic

[CJTaylor]

The pup looks like she has come on well colin ,she looks like her dad but points like her mam ,pleased she is doin the buz for you , hope everythin goes well mate
Geof, cant tell you how good she is...colin

[RedNoseK9]

Colin love the pics mate and that english looks great

Wez

[Kevin Massey]

Just a couple more pics just to practise posting them!, .colin

Once you pop you cant stop:supz:

Good stuff Colin

[CJTaylor]

Once you pop you cant stop:supz:

Good stuff ColinKev your are the man, and very patient, i owe you muches drinkus...col,

[Falcons7]

A told you she would do well for you , a suppose everyone says that when selling pups tho ,good luck jeff



Geof, cant tell you how good she is...colin

[CJTaylor]

A told you she would do well for you , a suppose everyone says that when selling pups tho ,good luck jeff
I shes a cracker geof i will give you that, and worth the wait...cheers colin

[Alf]

Is that bobs pup Jeff? Alf.

The pup looks like she has come on well colin ,she looks like her dad but points like her mam ,pleased she is doin the buz for you , hope everythin goes well mate

[Falcons7]

Yes Alf ,out of that Ruby bitch I got from Ireland. Bob has thrown some nice pups ,his nature seems to come through .


Is that bobs pup Jeff? Alf.

[Falcons7]

Alf ,heres a picture of him , Chris Gilchrists bitch and a pup Steve Frank has out of the two ,not much of a looker but a good grouse dog in the making. Couple others just for interest .Sorry Colin ,im not tryin to nick ya thread mate. Alf knows Bob well


Is that bobs pup Jeff? Alf.

[Falcons7]

OOps Alf ,missed the one with Steve's pup!!

Is that bobs pup Jeff? Alf.

[CJTaylor]

Alf ,heres a picture of him , Chris Gilchrists bitch and a pup Steve Frank has out of the two ,not much of a looker but a good grouse dog in the making. Couple others just for interest .Sorry Colin ,im not tryin to nick ya thread mate. Alf knows Bob well

Feel free geof, no probs mate the more pics the better...colin

[Mark Collins]

Hi Colin, nice looking tiercel mate, good pictures, i flew a small 3/4 a few seasons ago for bird deterant work on a landfill, i took him on late and kited him for weeks , he was left for hours on the side of the tip and would go off on his own for up to an hour or more , the only time he didnt come back i tracked him and found him on a sparrowhawk!!! the thing was the spar had been eating a feral pigeon when the falcon caught her . He had a spooky temperament , he was diferant from day to day in fact i called him jeckle [and hyde] When i stopped doing the landfill site i tryed him on gulls/rooks but he began catching pigeons and it was a job to keep him off them, a very strong fast powerful bird , he was put into a chamber with a black female gyr/saker and bred in his 3rd year!!!!, mark.

[CJTaylor]

Hi Colin, nice looking tiercel mate, good pictures, i flew a small 3/4 a few seasons ago for bird deterant work on a landfill, i took him on late and kited him for weeks , he was left for hours on the side of the tip and would go off on his own for up to an hour or more , the only time he didnt come back i tracked him and found him on a sparrowhawk!!! the thing was the spar had been eating a feral pigeon when the falcon caught her . He had a spooky temperament , he was diferant from day to day in fact i called him jeckle [and hyde] When i stopped doing the landfill site i tryed him on gulls/rooks but he began catching pigeons and it was a job to keep him off them, a very strong fast powerful bird , he was put into a chamber with a black female gyr/saker and bred in his 3rd year!!!!, mark.cheers Mark, i must admit i can understand the jeckle and hide crack, i have flown a couple of other gyr/sakers, but these where, 50/50 or near, Blues more or less gyr and is a very strong rapid bird,and different from the others, however he can suddenly develop a strop so to speake, and has to be hooded and left to calm, however once unhooded again hes no bother, this trait though is lessening in time and is very usefull when he needs to dispatch his quarry...colin.

[Alf]

I thought instantly she looked like bob just couldn’t put the match together.
She looks well doesn’t she? Alf.


Yes Alf ,out of that Ruby bitch I got from Ireland. Bob has thrown some nice pups ,his nature seems to come through .

[Alf]

Some fine dogs there Jeff ! Alf.


OOps Alf ,missed the one with Steve's pup!!

[Laggan]

I have just 'discovered' this thread and it has been a good read, but I have to say the photographs are superb. Thank you.

[CJTaylor]

Just a few more pics, of blues progression hope you enjoy them, colin
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/STA60007-1.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/STA60046.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/STA60031.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/STA60047.jpg

[RedNoseK9]

Another great installment Colin

Wez

[Alf]

Nice one! Alf.

[CJTaylor]

Another great installment Colin

WezThanks wez,glad you like mate....colin!!! cheers alf ...

[Smelleken]

Superb pics Colin ! Thanks for sharing. What a Gem of a Falcon.

[CJTaylor]

Superb pics Colin ! Thanks for sharing. What a Gem of a Falcon.Cheers rob, i will be posting some more pics hopefully if i get lucky today!...colin

[OutFlying]

Cracking looking pointer Colin.

[CJTaylor]

Cracking looking pointer Colin.
Thanks for that Jim, actually in terms of eng pointers she aint the best looking, but has a cracking pedigree and is sh-- hot in any hunting terrain..colin

[Eznugud]

Cracking thread Colin………….missed it due to these bloody stupid sub forums we have now….

[CJTaylor]

Cracking thread Colin………….missed it due to these bloody stupid sub forums we have now….Thanks shaun, had a good day today! however im on nights and at work now, had some realy good pics to put on line but my home computer is getting repaired as we speak, so i couldnt down load the pics..colin

[A1Gos]

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/GyrxSaker180108063.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/GyrxSaker180108012.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/78thgyrxsaker170108047.jpg
Lovely bird Colin... Pete.:rolleyes:

[CJTaylor]

Thanks pete, today he was a little to high in pitch, and the pheasant managed to drop into a thick wooded bank before he could hit it.however he off up again to approx 250 feet, which at his size is high enough for anything, the dogs where unable to find another point fast, so he just sailed down in what might i add was a considerable wind, and as he neared me i just popped my fist up and he landed on there, i didnt reward him as i dont want him to pick this habit up, however, it is one of the most heart warming things in falconry to have a large falcon on a high pitch, just sail down to your ungarnished fist, more so than gosses returning from trees 500 yards away!, ive only had one other falcon do it!, anyhow i cast him back off he dissapeared over a cragg some 5 to 6oo yards away trying to catch one of two crows, his inexperience was on their side!.he was gone out of site for about 5 mins and just as i was thinking about the vertical trek(the joys of the lake district) when he popped over the cragg looking for me...colin

[Puzo]

Nice looking tiercel. Great pics. I would love that black dog!

[CJTaylor]

Nice looking tiercel. Great pics. I would love that black dog!
The black dog is bred by Des oneil from ireland, a gem of a guy, we actually brought two over, one Dog and one Bitch both very similar in colour!, he has his own website, under glencuan pointers ,and is a member of the forum, the white bitch is bred by Jeof Armstrong again hes also a member ...both from real good working lines, ps the falcon was bred by Paul Bevan (a guy swiched on ,but also laid back !) of the lakeland bop centre, he breeds some cracking falcons,in varying degrees of gyr from 5/8ths upwards, some real good colours also...colin

[Puzo]

I've a female gyr/saker bred by Paul Bevan. She was given to me last year, after spending her first year in a pen & then falling into the hands of someone who messed her up. She flies at about 37oz but has been very difficult to enter. I was wondering if I should perhaps try her at ground game

49515

49522

49525

[CJTaylor]

I've a female gyr/saker bred by Paul Bevan. She was given to me last year, after spending her first year in a pen & then falling into the hands of someone who messed her up. She flies at about 37oz but has been very difficult to enter. I was wondering if I should perhaps try her at ground game

49515

49522

49525Nice looking dog and bird mate, do you know what % breeding she is, as he has quite a variety!..colin

[Puzo]

Nice looking dog and bird mate, do you know what % breeding she is, as he has quite a variety!..colin

If I remember right, without recourse to the reg-doc. She's gyrxsaker x gyrsaker/saker. So 3/4 saker

[CJTaylor]

If I remember right, without recourse to the reg-doc. She's gyrxsaker x gyrsaker/saker. So 3/4 saker
Kev thats 3/8ths gyr, 5/8ths saker mate, i think the higher the gyr content the faster to get entered, 50/50s are much the same in their first couple of seasons, however 75% or higher gyr content and they are a diff animal so to speake, mine at near 7/8ths gyr is more or less a gyrkin ...colin

[CJTaylor]

Just a quick update,an area i hunt is bordering on a 3000 acre ministry of defence arms dump, this area is completely fenced of and obviously has 24/7 security. this makes it a double edged sword, as all the activity is below ground, above groung is an absolute wildlife haven and completely wild and un kempt, the prob is if you fly round it, its poss your bird will kill inside there,however as the place is just over the field from my home its just to handy to fly or excercise the birds round. well unfortunately whilst excercising last tues at approx 3pm, the dogs unexpectedly bumped a cock pheasant whilst blue was up, although hed taken of for lift and i had already gotten the lure out, he turned tail and chased, right over the arms dump and i lost site of them both, only feathers slowly dropping told me hed hit it.unable to get in for him and as i was on nights at 6, after waiting an hour or more i had to go and would return with the reciever at 6am. But unfortunately as your all aware through night last tues and through to thursday we had the strongest gail force winds for 7 years actually closing the m6 motor way. alas i could get no signal anywhere and drove for miles over the next week(thanks to the lads who also helped). anyhow good news, as Paul Bevan who bred him always fits a closed ring with his phone no on all his birds, recieved a phone call, hed been found at port carlisle 50 odd miles away after killing a couples chicken, they had found him feeding on the hen, with the rest of the coup hiding behind the cockeral at the other end of the garden! anyhow,after rewarding them for their loss and effort, hes sitting on his block, having spent 8 days out in the worse weather over here for years, he was approx 2 to 3 ounces down in weight so hes been feeding no probs, but of that i was never in doubt...colin

[OutFlying]

Good outcome.

[CJTaylor]

Cheers Jim, when he initialy was lost the wind was easterly, however some how hed found his way right to the west coast!, although i have said, these birds are less affected by wind, than even peregrines..colin

[Ben C]

50 miles!

Don't ya just love a Gyr!!!!!!!

Well done that man.

[KiteTrainer]

Just a quick update,an area i hunt is bordering on a 3000 acre ministry of defence arms dump, this area is completely fenced of and obviously has 24/7 security. this makes it a double edged sword, as all the activity is below ground, above groung is an absolute wildlife haven and completely wild and un kempt, the prob is if you fly round it, its poss your bird will kill inside there,however as the place is just over the field from my home its just to handy to fly or excercise the birds round. well unfortunately whilst excercising last tues at approx 3pm, the dogs unexpectedly bumped a cock pheasant whilst blue was up, although hed taken of for lift and i had already gotten the lure out, he turned tail and chased, right over the arms dump and i lost site of them both, only feathers slowly dropping told me hed hit it.unable to get in for him and as i was on nights at 6, after waiting an hour or more i had to go and would return with the reciever at 6am. But unfortunately as your all aware through night last tues and through to thursday we had the strongest gail force winds for 7 years actually closing the m6 motor way. alas i could get no signal anywhere and drove for miles over the next week(thanks to the lads who also helped). anyhow good news, as Paul Bevan who bred him always fits a closed ring with his phone no on all his birds, recieved a phone call, hed been found at port carlisle 50 odd miles away after killing a couples chicken, they had found him feeding on the hen, with the rest of the coup hiding behind the cockeral at the other end of the garden! anyhow,after rewarding them for their loss and effort, hes sitting on his block, having spent 8 days out in the worse weather over here for years, he was approx 2 to 3 ounces down in weight so hes been feeding no probs, but of that i was never in doubt...colin

Glad you got him back Colin

John

[Puzo]

Just a quick update,an area i hunt is bordering on a 3000 acre ministry of defence arms dump, this area is completely fenced of and obviously has 24/7 security. this makes it a double edged sword, as all the activity is below ground, above groung is an absolute wildlife haven and completely wild and un kempt, the prob is if you fly round it, its poss your bird will kill inside there,however as the place is just over the field from my home its just to handy to fly or excercise the birds round. well unfortunately whilst excercising last tues at approx 3pm, the dogs unexpectedly bumped a cock pheasant whilst blue was up, although hed taken of for lift and i had already gotten the lure out, he turned tail and chased, right over the arms dump and i lost site of them both, only feathers slowly dropping told me hed hit it.unable to get in for him and as i was on nights at 6, after waiting an hour or more i had to go and would return with the reciever at 6am. But unfortunately as your all aware through night last tues and through to thursday we had the strongest gail force winds for 7 years actually closing the m6 motor way. alas i could get no signal anywhere and drove for miles over the next week(thanks to the lads who also helped). anyhow good news, as Paul Bevan who bred him always fits a closed ring with his phone no on all his birds, recieved a phone call, hed been found at port carlisle 50 odd miles away after killing a couples chicken, they had found him feeding on the hen, with the rest of the coup hiding behind the cockeral at the other end of the garden! anyhow,after rewarding them for their loss and effort, hes sitting on his block, having spent 8 days out in the worse weather over here for years, he was approx 2 to 3 ounces down in weight so hes been feeding no probs, but of that i was never in doubt...colin

Glad you got him back. The wind's been terrible. Lucky he hadn't gone across the water to the Scottish side from Port Carlisle.... Kev.

[Falconry Favourites]

very nice mate.

[CJTaylor]

Thanks for the replys guys, hes just flying to the lure at pres for a few more weeks, as the seasons ended, however i will run a thread on his performance this season coming, i know quite a few guys have shown interest in him through open thread and private pm, and phone. possibly for us in the mild climate of the uk, having 1/8th or so saker added to the gyr, gives them a little more immunity to certain bacterial infections, without any hinderance in performance. as i understand many dont have much faith in the 50/50 cross, and im probably a bit guilty of this myself, to be honest i struggle looking at him physicaly to see the saker in him, but im certainly pleased its there.Many strive to eventually fly a gyr, but poss 13/16 ths or 7/8ths is probably a safer bet on the health side, and cheaper to the pocket...colin

[Yorky]

Hi Colin, great thread and looking forwards to the updates next season. Your right about the gazillianth of a saker in him making it a less expensive bird another result:supz:

[CJTaylor]

Not had chance to get out hunting this season yet , due to work commitments , however ive rushed from work over the last couple of weeks to get home for 6 just enough light to get 2 of my falcons up for fitness training...as ive still no time of for another week or so (making it 6 weeks in all)!! im finnishing early over the next few days blue , and scout on pheasant/duck.........Blue has had a good moult and is ready as per...and scout is flying well getting fitter and ready to be introduced to game....col..heres a couple of pics from today when i managed to finn early and get them excercised.......colin....first is empty cropped then flown then full cropped..
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/cadge011.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/cadge009.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/cadge006.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/cadge013.jpg

[GaryPCO]

stunning looking birds colin very nice!!!8-)

[CJTaylor]

stunning looking birds colin very nice!!!8-)
Cheers Gaz , blues moulted very well , and a strong flier..hope i can get something under him over the week end mate , alas , ive seen what will be getting under you mate....:yawinkle:

[GaryPCO]

Cheers Gaz , blues moulted very well , and a strong flier..hope i can get something under him over the week end mate , alas , ive seen what will be getting under you mate....:yawinkle:
I have best of both worlds m8!!! she tags along with me amazing what you can get up to in those wild welsh woods....we actually get some hawking/hunting done sometimes pmsl!!!;)

[CJTaylor]

Managed to get out inbetween showers lol , blue managed to knock a hen out the sky after missing out when a cock bumped whilst he was still on the fist ,unfort didnt have enough light to get a point for scout had to let him go up for a few minutes . which he did but hes still a little clingy , hey ho tho im a good looking sod and he just wants to be near :rolleyes:...col

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/cadge2002.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/cadge2020.jpg
below...one mucky bitch lol
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/cadge2006.jpg

[Mark Collins]

Hi Colin, nice looking falcons mate, what weight are they flying at now, cheers,mark.

[CJTaylor]

Hi Colin, nice looking falcons mate, what weight are they flying at now, cheers,mark.Mark Blue the silver falcon is 7/8ths and flys at 2.3lb or just under...and scout the black flys at about 2.lb 2oz , but at that hes like a wart on my **** lol , he wont venture out more than about 150 yards at press , although he will go upto about 100 feet at pres, im hoping as he aint quite at the fitness he may need , that if i can get him over a pheasant or duck that he misses , he will sharp realise he aint got enough height and come back at a higher pitch ... ive found that although in some things gyr/sakers or mainly gyrs , are slow compared to many falcons on the maturity factor , and also on the basics etc ,however they tend to be much faster than other falcons on associating height with success...id say the black your after next year as an imprint will be performing at around 2lb 6oz ish mate...big for a male, and thats just 5/8ths , i think Pauls line breeding for size is paying off , his falcons tend to be at the bigger end of the size scale when compared to some others...colin

[Yeoman]

Looking good Colin
Atb Kev

[CJTaylor]

Cheers Kev ,Blue managed to hit a hen bird today , after he flew of and the returned at about 3 to 400 feet , on the dogs going in he stooped in classic style , knocknig the pheasant to the ground , it was at this point one of the local fell foxhond packs broke cover on the edge of a wood 200 yards away , luckily he was occupied dispatching his catch lol , scout also got a chance but wasnt quite up to his stablemates standard , whe the cock bird he was pursuing beat him to cover...he needs a little more confidence coupled with fitness , and a little more independance from me....col
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/stevebgs004.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/hounds024.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/stevebgs009.jpg
and below the foxhounds (excersising ) on the dyke edge...and above scout..
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/hounds025.jpg

[TiercelJim]

very nice mate,your birds look great.
atb,jim

[CJTaylor]

very nice mate,your birds look great.
atb,jimThanks Jim , good to see there are guys who still like gamehawking mate , :rolleyes:

[TiercelJim]

good weather,good setup,and a good falcon ,cant beat it..........just a shame you need so many ingredients to get things right to do it to a good standard
atb,jim.

[CJTaylor]

good weather,good setup,and a good falcon ,cant beat it..........just a shame you need so many ingredients to get things right to do it to a good standard
atb,jim.Well its not the easiest type of falconry to master , but it seems that the interest on these forums is mainly for harris threads or imprint goss threads lol ,probably the easiest forms of our sport but hey ho each their own , they are all enjoyable col:rolleyes:

[TiercelJim]

im not knocking any branch of hawking i could enjoy myself with any hunting bird,but game hawking with longwings(with out sounding a ****)is a speciallist area of falconry,I suppose the majority of peoples land and quarry lends itself to harris's and gosses alot more than for a gamehawk.theres people on here who love there gamehawking there just out numberd 5000-1:lol:
jim

[Matt King]

Well its not the easiest type of falconry to master , but it seems that the interest on these forums is mainly for harris threads or imprint goss threads lol , the easiest forms of our sport :rolleyes:
wouldnt say that an imprint gos is an easy prospect, or any gos for that matter. Its just the transition from one discipline to another, the field craft is totally diferent. Falcons tame easily but your trying to get them to fly in a certain way and at certain quarry, but goshawks are wild as hell but you encourage them to fly anything. A good falconer is a good falconer and will get the best out of any particular bird because they understand each bird they have and adapt there training methods to suit. But i agree there seems to be little in the way of good gamehawk threads.
Only my opinion :oops:

[CJTaylor]

wouldnt say that an imprint gos is an easy prospect, or any gos for that matter. Its just the transition from one discipline to another, the field craft is totally diferent. Falcons tame easily but your trying to get them to fly in a certain way and at certain quarry, but goshawks are wild as hell but you encourage them to fly anything. A good falconer is a good falconer and will get the best out of any particular bird because they understand each bird they have and adapt there training methods to suit. But i agree there seems to be little in the way of good gamehawk threads.
Only my opinion :oops:depends what the falcon is matt , i myself find gosses much easier than some types of falcons, gosses handled well are very tame indeed..,i wont go down the imprint road that i feel is more about a process than a taming/training routine .but i must admit your correct , very very few seem to do game hawking...colin

[CJTaylor]

Couple of pics to update , managed to get scout entered today ,but will post you some catch up pics below as i aint put much on in the last week or so

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[CJTaylor]

Below the snow comming off the tops , and then the RAF , at 70 bloody feet taking a look at me and the lads lol...col

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/scoutpheas013.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/scoutpheas020.jpg

the big lad below flew exceptionaly well today , no wind at all and reaching 600 feet in under a minute....col
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/blocks006.jpg

[Greg]

We had plenty of wind here Colin, but then we always do. My big lad thought it good to head off down the sea cliffs and give a buzzard a hard time! The only day we have had without wind ws yesterday and it was the only day I couldn't fly because I was getting backpacks fitted in the evening! Mind you I love the things already!

[CJTaylor]

Just thought id update with a few pics from the last few days hawking.....colin

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http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/bluepitch003.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/bluepitch006.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/bluepitch012.jpg

[CJTaylor]

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/bluepitch018.jpg
above.....full cropped !

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/stevebgs008.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/bluepitch021.jpg

[Mark Collins]

Very nice Colin, well done mate, how is my long lost uncle? ,cheers,mark.

[CJTaylor]

Very nice Colin, well done mate, how is my long lost uncle? ,cheers,mark.
well.......hes basically...long and of course lost !!! :rolleyes: hows you mate....col

[CJTaylor]

Afew catch up pics from the last couple of days , when blue arsed about as i was trying him a couple of ounces over weight , however he still managed a pheasant , after initially missing a cock bird , and refusing to come into the lure....colin

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/fabout004-1.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/fabout005-1.jpg

here you go folks , little wisp gets a crop full !!!!

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/fabout021.jpg

[Yeoman]

Nice one Colin , cracking pics pal.
Atb Kev

[CJTaylor]

Nice one Colin , cracking pics pal.
Atb KevCheers Kev , far to cold and windy today to get out , so im gona chill...col

[Mark Collins]

Hi Colin, very nice hen pheasant there mate, well done,mark.

[TiercelJim]

very good col,really like the AK,could be fun.
atb,jim

[CJTaylor]

Im afraid ive been bone idle and not kept up to speed with this thread , so i will post a couple of pictures from the last couple of weeks....,have had the odd good day ,and quite a few not so....col

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/cadge2018.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/hounds008.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/magie013.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/dump002.jpg

[Big JoeJoe]

Nice going Col, some cracking pics there mate. That little A Kes is a cracker mate.

Cheers Joe

[BarbaryHawking06]

Afew catch up pics from the last couple of days , when blue arsed about as i was trying him a couple of ounces over weight , however he still managed a pheasant , after initially missing a cock bird , and refusing to come into the lure....colin

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/fabout004-1.jpg
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/fabout005-1.jpg

here you go folks , little wisp gets a crop full !!!!

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/fabout021.jpg

be careful with the AK in the future he will try and go for any pheasant head now :roll: haha loved that pic reminds me of the times when I had AKs myself.

[CJTaylor]

I aint put much on here in the last month ,so in the office this morn ,just thought id put a couple of up date pitures up...had mixed bag over the last month or so , with both birds getting good kills but also both ,and mainly scout the dark falcon ,having a night or two out at "hack"...so to speak...col

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http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/view005.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/jumpers005.jpg

[CJTaylor]

few more...thought id put them up , nice change from all the harris pictures lol
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/ferreting009.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/hounds010.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/bluescout009.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/bluescout011.jpg

[CJTaylor]

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/fabout014.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/fabout006.jpg

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http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/fabout016.jpg

[TiercelJim]

nice pics col! your team looks immaculate,do you fly any ducks or partridge?
keep it up mate best time this last month.
atb,jim

[CJTaylor]

nice pics col! your team looks immaculate,do you fly any ducks or partridge?
keep it up mate best time this last month.
atb,jimi fly what ever i can get over the top of lol , but not much in the way off partridge , and although i could get at some ducks occasionaly ,is always on the River Derwent which is far from ideal , as crossing its a 7 mile car journey . or a 100 yard swim ,with all the gear ? thanks for reading Jim ,as i often feel im wasting time putting threads up ,it seems only harrises or imp gosses get exposure now , i was having the same discussion with Neil (Berkut) as i know thats why he doesnt bother putting up the eagle threads much any more....Col...but alas there is a small group of game hawkers out there flying :lol:...most seem to do their flying on the keyboard though lol...atb mate...col

[Greg]

Looks like your season is going well Colin! Keep it up, we will have to get to gether when I come back from the states.
Greg

[CJTaylor]

Looks like your season is going well Colin! Keep it up, we will have to get to gether when I come back from the states.
Greg
Ok Greg , but id of much preferd to get together in the states lol....look after yourself mate , fetch any spare gyrs back...we"l share them....col

[TLDWB]

Colin, there's one or two of us interested in something different from the usual tosh. Keep it coming.

Tom

[CJTaylor]

Cheers for that Tom atb mate...col

[Gozzhawk]

very nice pics, cheers.
CJ what vehicle does the white cadge fit into??

[CJTaylor]

very nice pics, cheers.
CJ what vehicle does the white cadge fit into??Any at all mate , fits onto a back seat etc , thats why i made it light and easy to carry two falcons ,with a hip let ,cut out of both sides,...col

[Berkut]

Colin,
I never post on this thread ,but I always enjoy reading it. Top stuff.

ATB,
Neil.

[CJTaylor]

Colin,
I never post on this thread ,but I always enjoy reading it. Top stuff.

ATB,
Neil.
Thanks , i know you understand where im coming from...atb..Colin

[Gyr]

Nice going Colin, always interested in your threads mate. kerry

[Rowan]

Excellant thread,cheers.

[TiercelJim]

i fly what ever i can get over the top of lol , but not much in the way off partridge , and although i could get at some ducks occasionaly ,is always on the River Derwent which is far from ideal , as crossing its a 7 mile car journey . or a 100 yard swim ,with all the gear ? thanks for reading Jim ,as i often feel im wasting time putting threads up ,it seems only harrises or imp gosses get exposure now , i was having the same discussion with Neil (Berkut) as i know thats why he doesnt bother putting up the eagle threads much any more....Col...but alas there is a small group of game hawkers out there flying :lol:...most seem to do their flying on the keyboard though lol...atb mate...col

couldnt find sweet f a today col so might start doing some keybourd hawking they seem to get good results:lol: had a good run tho this week killed a tiny frenchman then the next day killed a right monster,its been abit hit and miss this season with one reason or another but im hawking solid now for the rest of the season the tiercels on fire!
atb,jim

[B C]

Nice pic Jim - the tiercel looks like he's spotted a falcon overhead or something else that could take his lunch!
Can't beat a cold bright snap for making falcons fly better.

Bernie

[TiercelJim]

Nice pic Jim - the tiercel looks like he's spotted a falcon overhead or something else that could take his lunch!
Can't beat a cold bright snap for making falcons fly better.

Bernie

lol it was my mate behind me trying to get him to look up for the pic!**** camera:lol:
atb,jim

[CJTaylor]

couldnt find sweet f a today col so might start doing some keybourd hawking they seem to get good results:lol: had a good run tho this week killed a tiny frenchman then the next day killed a right monster,its been abit hit and miss this season with one reason or another but im hawking solid now for the rest of the season the tiercels on fire!
atb,jim
Good post mate , and great looking tiercel , ive a real soft spot for them.....the thing is Jim , if game hawking was easy , theyd all be at it lol..its not just about finding the point ! its has to be in the right place too...atb..Col

[Jan1]

As a Harris Hawker with no opportunity to see other birds fly, I find it fascinating to see how you guys go about the business. Great thread, great looking birds & great pictures. Thanks for posting them.

Jan

[CJTaylor]

As a Harris Hawker with no opportunity to see other birds fly, I find it fascinating to see how you guys go about the business. Great thread, great looking birds & great pictures. Thanks for posting them.

JanWhy thanks Jan ,i feel vilified lol , Jan like anyother type of falconry ,theres no magic or science....common sense and a little experience/learning is all thats required , youd be fine mate , its just a bit more control , and a lot more distance if things go wrong...col

[Yeoman]

Great stuff Colin keep em comin:supz:
Atb Kev

[CJTaylor]

Great stuff Colin keep em comin:supz:
Atb Kev
Thanks Kev , im hoping to get out tomorrow , its my only day of work this week...atb...Col

[Kennelre]

I'm embarrased that I have no experience at all with Longwings....but I shall still enjoy to read the thread.
I'd give just about anything to have land like in your pictures. Very beautiful indeed...must be that bit nearer to heaven!!


...Rene.

[CJTaylor]

I'm embarrased that I have no experience at all with Longwings....but I shall still enjoy to read the thread.
I'd give just about anything to have land like in your pictures. Very beautiful indeed...must be that bit nearer to heaven!!


...Rene.Thanks for that , you can pop up some time , but you may need some conditioning training first lol , coz if they kill in the next valley ,or go awol , it can be physical....col

[B C]

It's true, it can be very physical!

Col can often be seen on his tricycle pedalling from valley to valley chasing birds!
It used to be easier when he rode his bike, but unfortunately damage sustained to his stabilisers soon put a stop to that - and it was difficult to wield a Yagi and pedal at the same time!

Bernie

[CJTaylor]

It's true, it can be very physical!

Col can often be seen on his tricycle pedalling from valley to valley chasing birds!
It used to be easier when he rode his bike, but unfortunately damage sustained to his stabilisers soon put a stop to that - and it was difficult to wield a Yagi and pedal at the same time!

BernieBern....good news on the bike front ....ive just learned ! and can now change gear ! , trouble is im wearing my wellingtons away as , im not confident enough to lift both feet of the ground yet...col

[B C]

Class matey - pmsl!

Bernie

[CJTaylor]

Class matey - pmsl!

Bernie ...Wow...hey Bern ....you been worried about losing me ?.....ive just found the bell ! its on the handle bars .....aww...thanks mate.....wheres the transmitter....hang on al check under me seat

[B C]

Careful Col,

You can easily get your gloves tangled in the handle bars when they are attached together on a string threaded through your coat-sleeves, and mind you wear your reflective arm-bands on those busy Cumbrian roads mate!

Bernie

[CJTaylor]

First time out today for a week or so , and on failing to find a quality point on my own patch , i had to borrow er....sort of...30 acres of a nearby farm...lol but manged a nice cock bird with blue..

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/blueendseason012.jpg

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[Gyr]

Steady on col, lol, uncle is going to get jealous. alb kerry:lol:

[CJTaylor]

Steady on col, lol, uncle is going to get jealous. alb kerry:lol:

Kerry hes already been crowned and is officially a sir ! , so hes still the king pin , its very strange though , im much younger than him , yet hes my nephew !!! what ya think !!..col

[Gyr]

:lol::lol::lol:

[Mark Collins]

Well done uncle , fine looking couple of birds there , nephew.

[Stephen]

really nice pics looks like you have had a good season

stephen

[CJTaylor]

Not to bad a season , realy not as productive as id like but work dictates when and were i can get out ! , col

[Liam-+-]

thats some fine looking birds and dogs m8 class

[CJTaylor]

thats some fine looking birds and dogs m8 class
Thanks liam , its people like yourself who encourage lads to keep posting atb Col

[Cassini]

Col, that last photo of Blue on the rooster is real nice.
Great thread :supz:

[CJTaylor]

Col, that last photo of Blue on the rooster is real nice.
Great thread :supz:
cheers mate , its difficult to tell from the photo but its actually raining !, blues gasping for breadth , hed bound to it , and even at 2lb 2oz killing a cock bird takes its toll...Col

[Pure Blood]

i love this thread , its pure class

[CJTaylor]

i love this thread , its pure class

Thanks Carl , but it doesnt always go to plan , blues got a slight toe prob again , so i took scout out for an hour on sunday ,he was beaten into cover by a hen bird , when it bounced out whilst he was out of position , hes a much slower learner than blue , and hasnt quite grasped the fact that more height will give more speed...hes not doing to bad though , and myself i feel its good to use something other than peregrine or their hybrids for game hawking for a change , i do know the peregrines ive used have been easier to teach ! but hey , what a sad life if non of us ventured from pere or gyr/peres....Col

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[TLDWB]

Enjoyed the thread Colin, same again next season.

[CJTaylor]

Enjoyed the thread Colin, same again next season.Cheers Tom , will try my best my lad , atb Col

[Mark Collins]

Hi unc, is that you finished for the season now, is it back to pipes, and carpet slippers ????:)

[CJTaylor]

Hi unc, is that you finished for the season now, is it back to pipes, and carpet slippers ????:)
Not yet neph , ive a bit more flying in me yet ! plus im just starting to fly the little ak ! , god its a fast little thing................unc

[Mark Collins]

Good luck with that unc, smart little birds ,mark.

[Phil Noble]

Great thread Colin,great falcons and great reading!

[CJTaylor]

Great thread Colin,great falcons and great reading!
Thanks Phil , good to see other true gamehawkers on here ,below is the little " gamehawk" im presently flying.....atb.....Col

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/ak2005.jpg

below hes only small but waits on beautifully....lol

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/ak2007.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/ak006.jpg

[Phil Noble]

Thanks Phil , good to see other true gamehawkers on here ,below is the little " gamehawk" im presently flying.....atb.....Col

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/ak2005.jpg

below hes only small but waits on beautifully....lol

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/ak2007.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/ak006.jpg
Very nice looking AK there colin,do you intend to hunt him?
Thanks

[CJTaylor]

To be honest Phil ,i took him on as he was sort of " homeless" , lol , ive just trained him a little and "we" are both learning of each other , as ive never trained and tried flying a bird under 4oz !! he is pr ,! lol , far to small for any transmitters , but he is starting to show interest in starlings ect , so if he goes he goes , but im just larking around with him lol.col

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/ak005.jpg

[Phil Noble]

To be honest Phil ,i took him on as he was sort of " homeless" , lol , ive just trained him a little and "we" are both learning of each other , as ive never trained and tried flying a bird under 4oz !! he is pr ,! lol , far to small for any transmitters , but he is starting to show interest in starlings ect , so if he goes he goes , but im just larking around with him lol.col

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/ak005.jpg

Thanks for that colin,hes a great little budgie lol,Keep us updated please!:)

[Gyr]

To be honest Phil ,i took him on as he was sort of " homeless" , lol , ive just trained him a little and "we" are both learning of each other , as ive never trained and tried flying a bird under 4oz !! he is pr ,! lol , far to small for any transmitters , but he is starting to show interest in starlings ect , so if he goes he goes , but im just larking around with him lol.col

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh223/cnjtaylor/ak005.jpg

One cute little lad there:supz: