Flying falcons to the fist

[Adam Barrett]

Has any one read the artical published by bob dalton in this months falconry and raptor conservation magaine?

He was at a field meet in canada i think and a guy was flying a socail imprint male gyr/pere.

Anyway instead of calling the falcon back to the lure it was called back to the fist- Bob went on to say that it was a good high mounting bird and it was flown at partridge.

Has anyone ever trained a falcon like this or seen one being flown like this?
cheers

[Shaun Byrne]

Dont think I'd like a Gyr Pere coming in at me to land on the fist. They might be good at flying but they aint good at stopping!!

[BrianM]

lol

[Finnish]

It, s bad enough a male gos hitting the glove but a falcon no thanks.

[Adam Barrett]

i know i thought that aswell i know after a coupleof meters they start to chop if ya will at the food on the glove-it just seemed wierd to fly like this.

[Shaun Byrne]

I've known people bring in Sakers by throwing food to the ground then picking them up but never directly to the glove.

[Finnish]

Yes but seriously Shaun would you like a falcon coming flat out at your fist????????

[Shaun Byrne]

Noooooooo!! I've been flattened by them while lure flying, it hurts!!

[Wightwings]

my wifes first pere/saker would come in to her fist to rest.

she was out flying him one day and after a while as a matter of interest she stuck her hand out and he stooped in towards it so she moved it, a few mins later she did the same, this time he came in fast but pulled out and landed square on her fist.

she would do this with him regular. he would come in, rest, then go again.
Better than him pitching in a tree she used to say to me :roll:

he was parent reared but at the time she flew him everyday religiosly

each to there own i guess

lol it is bob dalton we are talking about here ! the man that tells about how he always puts a tail mount on his bird before putting them into there box then he goes on and puts his bird in the box without eny tail mount lol i still cant understand why a got my m8 to copy bob daltons vid for me !! its amasing what you will wach when yer board ...............

[Jules]

We always bring our Gyr/Saker into the fist. His only vice is coming off the lure. He flies like a dream and comes into the fist beautifully. It is not something we would do with any of the other falcons but it solved a problem with him.

[Varmint]

I fly an Imprint Pere/Sak Female in to both fist and lure, and contrary to what you might think, even when several hundred feet up and stooping they are more than capable of landing like a butterfly.

I flew my old Sakerette at The Scottish Game fair a couple of years ago and did just that in display, he stooped from 1000ft plus vertically and slammed all the brakes on at the last minute to land on the glove.

They will do it, just need lots of practise and it certainly helps to keep them dry when the ground is wet and you need another slip later!

[Goldie]

It's amazing how good their air brakes are, a certain person on this list flies a kes straight into its box at the end of the day.
What say you Adrian ? :lol: :lol: :lol: Great fun for the kids.

[Varmint]

Not so impressive air brakes, but a nice way to end a show!

[ColdZero]

i can't see why you shouldn't persoanlly, they land on cliff faces etc in the wild...

[SakerJack]

Bob Dalton was correct, Mark Williams, from the UK trained his gyr/per to return to the fist. Many Americans use a duck carcass for a lure and this seems much easier and just as effective. I was at the Canadien Meet and saw that bird return to the fist from about 1,000 feet, no problem what so ever and it certainly did not smack into the fist.
I fly two desert falcons to the fist and have never been hit hard, the falconers from Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan have been flying their saker falcons to the fist for hundreds of years, they must be on to something.
Sakerjack