Bonneli eagle

[HawkMan69UK]

has any one or know anyone who fly these mid size eagles......BONNELLI EAGLES

[ChicM]

Yep - Varmint has in the past.

[HawkMan69UK]

did he have much joy with it.....

[ChicM]

PM him for more info but I was out with him a number of times flying hares and bunnies. She never got a hare (to my knowledge) but was pretty good on rabbits. She was aggressive tho and when coming back after a missed chase was very intimidating: she'd eyeball you all the way in before switching to the chick at the last second. Savannah was her name. Nick name...Savage Anna!

[Varmint]

Brrrrrrrr! monster!

[HawkMan69UK]

so varmit are they recomended...im asking for a mate who has flown goshawks think he wants something a little different but still with speed and power

[Varmint]

If you can get the right bird at the right age reared in the right way, then definatley, but getting the these things in Bonelli's is harder than it might appear?

Very, Very capable birds and the only Eagle i have ever caught a Pheasant with in fair flight in the air! Get a bad one and you'll pay??

[HawkMan69UK]

cheers varmit i will pass it on

[Sandeep]

I have trapped, trained and hunted with these birds. These are failrly common in the sounth of India. My friend and I have hunted hares, partridges, peafowl, black ibis, egrets and rollers with these. Very fast on the wing. Though thee ae big birds... hey are pretty fast on level flights. The most recent one that we went trapping was Jan last year... It was a pair and they had chicks in the nest. Just fed them the bait (blue rock pigeons). Its a very greaceful and a mean looking bird. Very good foot work...

[Midland hawker]

any body have any pics of these and how much they cost

[Turumti]

Sandeep, good to see you here my man. Check out my post regarding Pakistan's last eagle hawker, I have pic of him in it.


http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=12149&highlight=Pakistan

[Sandeep]

I will post some pictures soon. My friend and me as a practice rarely take the camera as it attracts attention. We couldnt risk attracting the wrong attention as falconry is not legal in India. But I do have a few pictures and will post them on the site soon.

[Sandeep]

Hi Midland Hawker...

I have never bought a BOP yet. So I have no clue about their price. All I can say is that they do cost a leg and an arm in the UK. This is what my friend had told me..

[Midland hawker]

thanks sandeep hope u get time to show me a pic and ur a lucky man being able to catch ur own if this country was the same thou there would be probably none left in a year to many people with big willy syndrome ( means they dont care about the bird they just like showing off with them)

[Sandeep]

Guys

Turumti - Salman, is a good friend of mine. He flies Turumtis, red naped and black shaheens, sakers, Gos and spars. I have had the chance to meet him when he came to Dubai. Great guy and very helpful.

Salman please post some of the pictures of the turumtis... Lots of friends here who would love to see it. I tried looking for the pictures of turumtis that I had... seems to be eluding me. But I will have them posted by next week. They are definitely there at home....:supz: :supz:

[Tim Laycock]

Moved from members bird diarys :rolleyes:

[Joey]

i also asked about the bonielis in a thread i talked to my mentor he had been out with one he said it was bob ashcrofts it took hare allday and bunnies. it broke its beak hitting a wall chasing a hare he got ride of it and now my mentor wants one. ive been told they can be like gosses


joey

[Joey]

this is one of the net

[Turumti]

What subspecies or race of the Bonelli's is this bird. Its plumage is not like any that I have seen here in Pakistan.

[Joey]

i am not sure it was off google

[NorthenEnglandHawker]

thanks sandeep hope u get time to show me a pic and ur a lucky man being able to catch ur own if this country was the same thou there would be probably none left in a year to many people with big willy syndrome ( means they dont care about the bird they just like showing off with them)


so does that mean if i fly a jack merlin that i can use it as stand:supz: :supz: PMSL

[HoumaFalconer]

danm that is one fine looking bird

[NGuruve]

What subspecies or race of the Bonelli's is this bird. Its plumage is not like any that I have seen here in Pakistan.
i dont think that that is a subspecies or anything its ust a imature bonelli's is it lighter than the ones you have seen

[Turumti]

The birds we have here in Southern Pakistan are much lighter coloured, like pale goshawks.

[HawkEagle]

I am flying one at the moment, the bird is nothing like gos but more like a small golden eagle. Bonelli's eagle has much longer wings than hawk eagle.

[NGuruve]

hey hawk eagle have you got any pic of your bonelli's

[HawkEagle]

I'll post the pic of my bonelli's later. She still has her worn feather but most of her injury has healed up. I also have 2 young blyth's hawk eagles. High potential for the blyth's he. The bird is female she is not big but enormous thick feet, very beautiful indeed.

[Sandeep]

Hi

I agree with Salman... The birds that we had trapped were lighter shades... But yes, I have seen young birds and they are a much darker shade.

I have always loved the Blyths Hawk Eagle. What size are they and what quary do they take?? Any pictures ... on the fist please.

[HawkEagle]

This is the pic of my bonnelli's eagle coming to fist and a pic of f baby blyth's he.

[AndyYounger]

nice 1 . keep the pics coming.

[NGuruve]

omg wow that blyths feet are awsume ive seen many pics of adults and they do indeed have large feet for there body size should be exelent hunters and have a look at the phillipene hawk eagle they have massive feet il post pics later take a look at some of the pics on this site http://www.orientalbirdimages.org/birdimages.php?action=birdfamily&Bird_Family_ID=96

[Sandeep]

Hi Hawk Eagle...

Awesome picture. The pictures are not very clear. I have never seen a Blyth HE immature.... There seems to be a vsat difference in the colouration between the immature and the mature bird.

Where was that picture of you calling the Bonellis taken??? I have a similar picture of my crested hawk eagle flying to my fist. Will post this soon...

[HawkEagle]

The pic was taken in my garden. I also fly crested he. The bird is highly bouyant and determine. She is moulting at the moment. Cant wait to get flying her again.

[GriffMJ]

Male in Juevanile Plumage :)

http://www.n-a-f-a.org/photogallery/eagles/bonellis.jpg

Mature Female
http://www.bestofsicily.com/mag/art96.gif


They do like an "easy size"? Is this the "Gos" of Eagles?

[HawkEagle]

I dont know if my bonnell's eagle male or female. I guess I'll have to get the bird tested out.

[Sandeep]

I have flown Bonellis... Charming birds with great feet... Just love them. I also love the crested hawk eagles...Very nice when they are focussed...Their crest all raised.. Look mean...

Whch coubtry are you from hawkeagle ??

[Sandeep]

The picture of the bonellis on the perch looks like a female to me... I may be wrong because it looks quite big...

[Turumti]

Sandeep,

A juvenile female Bonelli's that I saw a couple of years back was much lighter in colour (nearly Golden), and much bigger than the one on the bow perch in Griff's post.

The picture of the bird Griff has posted looks a lot like the Middle Eastern race of the Bonelli's which are generally darker and somewhat smaller than the birds we have here. (I saw about twenty or more Bonelli's eagle in Dubai and Umm al Quwain,during 1997 and 1998).

Coming back to the juvenile female Bonelli's that I was talking about - this bird had stooped at my neighbour's pet peafowl right out of the sky at around 4pm on a suny spring day. The peafowl managed to save itself with a last minute jump from the balcony where it was strutting about, but the Bonelli's went staright and hit a thick glass window, she was knocked out for a good while, but she eventually came to and suffered no apparent harm. The next day she flew away as mysteriously as she had appeared.

Several years ago, I also a haggard Bonelli's eagle (female I presume), strike a domestic hen in a village. So hard was the hit that the chicken went flying forward like a football off Ronaldo's boot, and after a short throw, up the eagle snagged her and sped off to the safety of a nearby cliff. It was alos the first and last time that I saw an eagle stoop like a falcon and connect.

[Sandeep]

Hi Turumti

You may be right on th size. But the perch seems big and hence I felt the bird may be much bigger. This bird in coloration is pretty rufous on the chest that is seen in juvinile birds. The juvinile that Hyder released last year was quite a dark bird and I think they grow pale and develop streaks in the chest with each moult.

But these birds are definitely fast and there is no doubt about it. Since they are not found very easily, eaglers have not ahd a chance to try them. But they are excellent for big Hares and even the mouse deer. We havd quite a bit of them in Mangalore. They should be pretty good to fly at Chinkara's a small species of antelope.

May be some day.....:roll:

[Joey]

Male in Juevanile Plumage :)


http://www.n-a-f-a.org/photogallery/eagles/bonellis.jpg

Mature Female
http://www.bestofsicily.com/mag/art96.gif


They do like an "easy size"? Is this the "Gos" of Eagles?wow what a set of birds

[EagleMan]

hi friends, this is a family portrait of bonelli's taken in Greece, some greek ornithologist claim that the birds from Greece are a ltle bigger than their Spanish counterparts, i mean more heavy and massive birds....especially THE Cretan bonnelli's . do you know something about the bonelli eagles fom Greece ?

[EagleMan]

an head portrait of a spanish bird...

[JuliaK]

Male Bonelli's eagle..

http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/2514/hanihase6if.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Roberto]

Portuguese Bonelli´s

[NGuruve]

brilliant pics guy they are amazing birds

[Sandeep]

A picture at last of my hawk Eagle....

Let me know if all can see this........:supz:

[Midland hawker]

very nice bird sandeep excelent pic :supz:

[HawkEagle]

A picture at last of my hawk Eagle....

Let me know if all can see this........:supz:
Do you have full body picture? This bird look so different from mine.

[Sandeep]

Here you go mate.... A few pictures...

[AndyYounger]

very nice. you should be proud

[Sandeep]

The second picture of he CHE on that block perch is a very young bird... I have more pictures.. Thinking I f should post all this on a new thread...

[Mac]

i have been fascinated with the bonnelis for about twenty years, ever since reading gerald summers "wings over wales" when i was in primary school...

summers reflects on his experiences with a haggard bonnelis named "moti" and if memory serves correctly, describes them as almost untrainable...

however fasciatus will remain on my wish list for the forseable future and possibly be upgraded to my shopping list if they ever became available in the uk at a realistic price, that said i feel the african hawk eagles temperament and hunting style would for me , at least, be a better option for the uk.

[Sokoly]

Somebody asked about a prize of Bonellis I now of a breeder who sels them for 10.000 EU. Expencive a?

[GoodFooter]

Somebody asked about a prize of Bonellis I now of a breeder who sels them for 10.000 EU. Expencive a?


Seem cheap...10,000 euros is less than £7,000.

The ones I know sold this year were £9,000 - £10,000.!!!

[Kazahk]

My mate hunts a female Ibearian Bonneli,she hunts at 5lb 4oz and has taken 1 muntjac and a 3/4 grown fox,plus rabbit and hare,and pheasant to,but for all its size and strength the Bonneli still loses hares compared to a Goldie for example,also they are very sensitive to start with

[JuliaK]

my mate bought his male bonellis for 9800b euro. others bought they for 11 000 euro.

[Kazahk]

Regarding Bonelli's eagles,they are bold and responsive ,but one general problem; getting them to perform predictably against quarry.Regardless of the most careful management,my good freind has three ( 1 pair should breed next season,and hes hunted both hard,this female took 3/4 grown Fox,Muntjac+hare,rabbit),and a male asian/middle eastern type,their commitment can never be guaranteed.One day nothing could stop them,the next they lacked determination.

[Sparrie]

A couple of years ago I was lucky enough to see Andrew Knowles Brown hunting hares with a Bonellis in glenshee. It was awesome. I will have to look out the pics and post them.

Gary

[Stanley]

chech this pic

[Stanley]

one more

[Falcons7]

Shes dead now but would have been great in the right hands.Not sure how well Paul ,the owner of her when she died did with her but I think she killed plenty stuff.I sore her on blue hares and wanted then big style but was far to unfit for the job ,getting blown away when they were going up hill.I think these eagles would be my first choise if I was wanting to kill lots of hares.



PM him for more info but I was out with him a number of times flying hares and bunnies. She never got a hare (to my knowledge) but was pretty good on rabbits. She was aggressive tho and when coming back after a missed chase was very intimidating: she'd eyeball you all the way in before switching to the chick at the last second. Savannah was her name. Nick name...Savage Anna!

[Sparkes]

Just came back from a Slovakia field meet, many Goldies flying at hare and deer, but was also a bonnelii's flying at hare too.. was quite fast and very responsive back to the glove, mate of mine has just bred one this year and it's flying to the fist now so shouldn't be too long beforeI can go see it hunting!


:-)

[Sokoly]

Slovakia and czeh republik have a long tradition of falconry mate. I envy you that you went there. :-)

[Sparkes]

Been to a few now, and they certainly know how to handle there Eagles.. Will def be going again next year.. :-)

[EagleMan]

Just came back from a Slovakia field meet, many Goldies flying at hare and deer, but was also a bonnelii's flying at hare too.. was quite fast and very responsive back to the glove, mate of mine has just bred one this year and it's flying to the fist now so shouldn't be too long beforeI can go see it hunting!


:-)

Any pics, please ?

[Stanley]

like this

[SakerYZF]

They're so stunning. how many people in this country actually breed them though?

[Kazahk]

They're so stunning. how many people in this country actually breed them though?

my m8 does :supz:

[SakerYZF]

How many does he produce each year though?
Sorry to sound sceptical, but alot of people say they "breed such n such" but basically have a pair that don't deliver the goods.

[Kazahk]

How many does he produce each year though?
Sorry to sound sceptical, but alot of people say they "breed such n such" but basically have a pair that don't deliver the goods.

3 last year and same this year,orders are full!:wink:

[Dangerous Dave]

The ones I know sold this year were £9,000 - £10,000.!!![/QUOTE]

and there gonna get dearer (if its the same that i know off!!!)

[Kazahk]

The ones I know sold this year were £9,000 - £10,000.!!!

and there gonna get dearer (if its the same that i know off!!!)[/QUOTE]

My friend just sold a middle eastern race male,£6k,its gone towards a female Black eagle that should be here soon!

[HawkEagle]

I had one but I gave it away a few months ago. I didnt have time to fly the bird. Too many birds too little time.

[SakerYZF]

I bet his orders are full! but at 9-10k ...... its an expensive fashion accessory....

[Kazahk]

I bet his orders are full! but at 9-10k ...... its an expensive fashion accessory....

Jealousy :lol:

[Sokoly]

It's a human trait. :-)

[Kazahk]

It's a human trait. :-)

shame:roll:

[HawkEagle]

What is so special about this bird that makes you want to pay so much?

[MickeyDredd]

What is so special about this bird that makes you want to pay so much?

nothing special, just supply and demand principles.

ps I'll have one at the price you paid for yours please if you have any spare ;) :lol:

[HawkEagle]

I just dont like those long and skinny legs and feet. :lol:

[MickeyDredd]

I just dont like those long and skinny legs and feet. :lol:

Especially at £10 grand a pair!! :lol: :lol:

[Berkut]

Having seen a couple fly that were not particularly fit I think in the right hands from scratch these birds would be awesome. To those who have the experience to comment would you go parent - reared or imprint.

[Kazahk]

Having seen a couple fly that were not particularly fit I think in the right hands from scratch these birds would be awesome. To those who have the experience to comment would you go parent - reared or imprint.

parent rear!,they dont imprint that well especially compared to the Aquilas as they seem to stay immature and sly with it,eyass p/r are what my friend just keeps now,my father had a passage spanish female,she was sensitive to start with but came round and was awesome like my friends p/r ibearian/middle eastern domestic stock,ive trained a female 2yrs ago and i rate them highly.

[Berkut]

parent rear!,they dont imprint that well especially compared to the Aquilas as they seem to stay immature and sly with it,eyass p/r are what my friend just keeps now,my father had a passage spanish female,she was sensitive to start with but came round and was awesome like my friends p/r ibearian/middle eastern domestic stock,ive trained a female 2yrs ago and i rate them highly.

Thanks for that.I do intend to fly one at some stage. It,s getting a hold of one though,still I have enough to keep me going in the meantime.;)

[Kazahk]

Thanks for that.I do intend to fly one at some stage. It,s getting a hold of one though,still I have enough to keep me going in the meantime.;)


The best place to source one is Falcoiformes in the Netherlands,i know a big commercial falcon breeder bought 4 of them this season=all the smaller asian type,i think thats the only blood line they have.

[Berkut]

The best place to source one is Falcoiformes in the Netherlands,i know a big commercial falcon breeder bought 4 of them this season=all the smaller asian type,i think thats the only blood line they have.

We could maybe discuss this sometime.Thanks for the info.

[BlackShaheen10]

We could maybe discuss this sometime.Thanks for the info.

I think you will find cheaper in Austria:yawinkle:

[Sokoly]

Somebody earlier commented those long skinny legs, I would just add that those legs are the trait of a good hunter. For example the goshawks have them too. And we all know what kind of hunters goshawks are. The bonneli eagle is in my opinion some where between a Goshawk and an eagle. To be honest I didn't have much chanse to work with this bird but it looks like it is an Eagle in the head and a goshawk in a character of hunting.

[Rufus T]

I'm sure Andy Broon (Sunday name Andrew Knowles Brown) has a pair.

[HawkEagle]

Having seen a couple fly that were not particularly fit I think in the right hands from scratch these birds would be awesome. To those who have the experience to comment would you go parent - reared or imprint.

From my little experience with bonelli's eagle I find them very shy and easily spooked. By this nature makes them hard to work around people if the bird is totally parents reared. I'd say the best way will be half between pr reared and hand reared.

[HawkEagle]

Somebody earlier commented those long skinny legs, I would just add that those legs are the trait of a good hunter. For example the goshawks have them too. And we all know what kind of hunters goshawks are. The bonneli eagle is in my opinion some where between a Goshawk and an eagle. To be honest I didn't have much chanse to work with this bird but it looks like it is an Eagle in the head and a goshawk in a character of hunting.

They are nothing like a gos and they have longer wings in porpotion to their body. I'd say a small goldie rather. In recent study bonelli's eagle is found closely related to goldie. In europe this bird has the highest potential as a hare hunter cause it's larger than gos and not too large like goldie. It's about the right size for the job. Also if you have cash you can buy it.

[Jens]

how much cash

[Berkut]

They are nothing like a gos and they have longer wings in porpotion to their body. I'd say a small goldie rather. In recent study bonelli's eagle is found closely related to goldie. In europe this bird has the highest potential as a hare hunter cause it's larger than gos and not too large like goldie. It's about the right size for the job. Also if you have cash you can buy it.

It would be the ideal bird for me.Hope to get my hands on one next season.

[Kazahk]

I was out with my friend who hunt's with them today and if i didnt have any Golden's i would be flying a female Ibearian Bonneli,like my father who hunted a passage female.They are less skity than the Asian stock.

[JuliaK]

pics from the male bonellis of a friend..
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/1320/bonelliseagleqn0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/7602/kithan2wd6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Berkut]

pics from the male bonellis of a friend..
http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/1320/bonelliseagleqn0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/7602/kithan2wd6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Luvvly Jubbly. :supz:

[KiteTrainer]

I was out with my friend who hunt's with them today and if i didnt have any Golden's i would be flying a female Ibearian Bonneli,like my father who hunted a passage female.They are less skity than the Asian stock.

In what sense and where did your father get his, how long did he fly it for and did he have much success.................just curious

[Kazahk]

In what sense and where did your father get his, how long did he fly it for and did he have much success.................just curious

The Ibearian stock tend to be a little more like the African Hawk Eagle in tempermeant,like Peals are a little more firery than how own peregrinus pere's.
My father got his female over 23yrs ago from Spain as a passage bird and she took everything,i still have her retired and now in a chamber but shes never laid.

[KiteTrainer]

Shame it has never layed

[Kazahk]

Shame it has never layed

i would be ££££££££££££££££££££££££'s in!

[KiteTrainer]

no doubt

[Tim Laycock]

i would be ££££££££££££££££££££££££'s in!

Only if you got some fertile eggs out of it :P :lol:

[Kazahk]

Only if you got some fertile eggs out of it :P :lol:

very true:lol: :roll:

[Sokoly]

It's a marvelous bird anyway. Maybe we should apprechiate the bird for what it is, not only what profit we could make out of it???
Enjoy your birds, love them, give them enough space, care and time and they will most likely return that by their glorious looks, unforgetable flights and simply by being in good corelation with you.A human being is very much a monetary creature, if you are a true falconer and care for the birds of pray learn to love them for what they are.

[Kazahk]

It's a marvelous bird anyway. Maybe we should apprechiate the bird for what it is, not only what profit we could make out of it???
Enjoy your birds, love them, give them enough space, care and time and they will most likely return that by their glorious looks, unforgetable flights and simply by being in good corelation with you.A human being is very much a monetary creature, if you are a true falconer and care for the birds of pray learn to love them for what they are.

Thats why ive never passed the old girl on,shes 24 next year but over those years she gave my late father years of loyal service and shes a real character and one of the family and Sokoly the £££££££££'s was a joke!

[KiteTrainer]

Sounds a bit of a back pedal to me:wink:

[Kazahk]

Sounds a bit of a back pedal to me:wink:

Erh?

[KiteTrainer]

I am surprised that you have not taken the opportunity to fly the bird it seems such a waste .

It is still not particularly old as Eagles go and as it is a made hawk anyway
it would stil be worth flying. I know I would particularly as it has been so successfull. :twisted:

[Sokoly]

Anyways mates I just felt a strong urge to say that. Didn't mean to heart nobody. It's something that I have unfortunatelly felt over the time on the forum. There is no bad thing in wanting to breed the birds. I just felt the note of finance interfiring with something that is much more valuable and strong than money. Nobody can pay me the moments I have spent with my birds. There is no money that can pay all the time and secrafice we have made for the most beautiful of the living creatures on earth.The happiness when your own bird catches it's first quarry and the moments of agony when something go's wrong.
We are falconers and we are here together because the birds of pray connected us.
Sokoly

[Berkut]

I am surprised that you have not taken the opportunity to fly the bird it seems such a waste .

It is still not particularly old as Eagles go and as it is a made hawk anyway
it would stil be worth flying. I know I would particularly as it has been so successfull. :twisted:

I have to agree.What is the life expectancy of a Bonnelli,s.I would have thought hunting in it,s later years would be better for it physically and mentally than living out it,s final years in an enclosure.

[Sokoly]

Berkut, that's a very interesting point of view. I seriously don't have an opinion on that one. Do we really have to retire the birds after a good period of hunting together?Is it good for the birds to stand teathered or fly free in an aviary?

[Berkut]

Berkut, that's a very interesting point of view. I seriously don't have an opinion on that one. Do we really have to retire the birds after a good period of hunting together?Is it good for the birds to stand teathered or fly free in an aviary?

I personally think flying the bird for as long as it is able. Especially such long lived birds as eagles. The thought of a long term hunting partner in an aviery , particularly if the bird has been an oustanding performer certainly does not appeal to me. What would happen in the wild.

[KiteTrainer]

;) ;) ;) Berkut, that's a very interesting point of view. I seriously don't have an opinion on that one. Do we really have to retire the birds after a good period of hunting together?Is it good for the birds to stand teathered or fly free in an aviary?

My opinion would be that birds of that calibre should be flown as long as possible. It will still have a good few years left in it, it would be a pleasure flying a bird like that with all that experience.. It could make you look very good

[Kazahk]

I personally think flying the bird for as long as it is able. Especially such long lived birds as eagles. The thought of a long term hunting partner in an aviery , particularly if the bird has been an oustanding performer certainly does not appeal to me. What would happen in the wild.

There we go again:roll: ,people jumping to concluesions on this forum,i carried on hunting her up to last season and shes having a break as i cant fly three eagles at quarry at once i presume everyone else can?

Are any of your eagles in a breeding chamber?

[Sokoly]

Kazahk, I just ask for different opinion not everybody shell agree. Why don't you tell us your point of view.For exmp.why did you decide to retire this particular bird?

[Kazahk]

Kazahk, I just ask for different opinion not everybody shell agree. Why don't you tell us your point of view.For exmp.why did you decide to retire this particular bird?

Cos im hunting two goldens now,she stands for AI but nothing yet.
Do all breeders fly/hunt every raptor they own,i dont think so.

[Sokoly]

Kazahk you are probably write. Especialy when we talk about breeders. For example I will be the first not to fly my breeding pairs simply because they would be so important to me and I wouldn't want to risk their safety.But you said earlier that this bird was not for breeding and it was flown for 24 years.
Any ways it's a heck of a job to fly two Goldies, my congrats to you mate. You are lucky to have enough space and quarry to fly those "Royales".Are you planning to breed them too ?

[Kazahk]

Kazahk you are probably write. Especialy when we talk about breeders. For example I will be the first not to fly my breeding pairs simply because they would be so important to me and I wouldn't want to risk their safety.But you said earlier that this bird was not for breeding and it was flown for 24 years.
Any ways it's a heck of a job to fly two Goldies, my congrats to you mate. You are lucky to have enough space and quarry to fly those "Royales".Are you planning to breed them too ?

our Bonelli was flown up to last season with us but she did dislocate her rear left talon smashing into a large hare in woodland,it healed but my avian vet advised retiremeant from hunting.Yes i could fly her to the fist and not hunting but but to have a rapacious speices of eagle and not hunting at flying weight is bound to make her frustrated and with undue aggression.This would not be fair on me or the eagle.
Yes my goldies do have more than enougth ample ground and eagle quarry and ive taken hoofed quarry now to,i do intend to breed them as part of a long time project and becouse they are my hobby.

[Sokoly]

Kazahk, I hope to see some photos of the goldies. Good luck with your breeding project.

[Mr Michael Westwood]

has any one or know anyone who fly these mid size eagles......BONNELLI EAGLES
have flown 3 females in the past also blyths mountain and changiable all of the passsage i have been luckey have i not???

[Kazahk]

have flown 3 females in the past also blyths mountain and changiable all of the passsage i have been luckey have i not???

my mate whos on here as Bonelli-eagle on this forum has hunted two Mountain Hawk-Eagles for over 15yrs,he has bonelli's and a female Verrueaux eagle and a male Verreaux coming soon.

[Berkut]

my mate whos on here as Bonelli-eagle on this forum has hunted two Mountain Hawk-Eagles for over 15yrs,he has bonelli's and a female Verrueaux eagle and a male Verreaux coming soon.

Kazahk,
Tried to reply to your PM but am told you do not receive PMs,
Neil.

[KiteTrainer]

There we go again:roll: ,people jumping to concluesions on this forum,i carried on hunting her up to last season and shes having a break as i cant fly three eagles at quarry at once i presume everyone else can?

Are any of your eagles in a breeding chamber?


I know Berkut did last year

[KiteTrainer]

Not jumping to conclusions I think it was the fact that you said earlier that the bird had given your father good service over the years and had not mentioned that you had been flying the bird or the fact that it had damaged a foot. I know you have to dot the I's and cross the T's people remember everything

[Sokoly]

C'mon mates we are here to lern more not to judge one another. Light up.:-)

[KiteTrainer]

Your right............................:lol: just like a bit of ribbing

[TiercelJim]

C'mon mates we are here to lern more not to judge one another. Light up.:-)

well put mate!

[KiteTrainer]

well put mate!

Your right there are o lot of knowledgeable people on here

[Sokoly]

Yep, and we have to learn that there are different ways to do things, so if somebody is doing it the other way it's not neccesserily wrong. What may work for me, may not work for you.The good thing about the forum is people can exchange ideas compare and choose which way they will use.It's wonderful if you can make a puzzle of different ways and practices and find your own way of doing things.That's why I love this forum.:-)

[JedT]

abit late,(PC down)but i think Bonelli's do hold a sly way of nailing you,they have that Devel look in them,which i love,i've hunted 2 in the past,(and a Goldie for 6 years)my first would follow on like a dog at 5lb-10oz but to realy hunt her she had to go down to 5lb-2oz,worked great with my GSP,but if she missed the quarry she would come looking for me,to NAIL me,i will never forget the look in her eyes each time she was coming in,black eyes,bleeding face,scares i've had them all,but it was my first eagle and i thought thats what flying eagles was all about,how time moves on----- one more point,next year the EU will get bigger,theres one person who will be fludding the EU with Bonnellis,PLEASE check all the paper work before you buy,because off the above i've lost all faith in getting a Bonnellis and falconrey---------- if ever in the UK "S" give me a call,love to meet you . SOG.

[Falcons7]

Long time no hear Jedrick.Sore a crackin Bonneli fly by near the Atlas mts in Morocco a few weeks ago.Think I videoed ,still ***** compaird to peregrines
JEFF




Labit late,(PC down)but i think Bonelli's do hold a sly way of nailing you,they have that Devel look in them,which i love,i've hunted 2 in the past,(and a Goldie for 6 years)my first would follow on like a dog at 5lb-10oz but to realy hunt her she had to go down to 5lb-2oz,worked great with my GSP,but if she missed the quarry she would come looking for me,to NAIL me,i will never forget the look in her eyes each time she was coming in,black eyes,bleeding face,scares i've had them all,but it was my first eagle and i thought thats what flying eagles was all about,how time moves on----- one more point,next year the EU will get bigger,theres one person who will be fludding the EU with Bonnellis,PLEASE check all the paper work before you buy,because off the above i've lost all faith in getting a Bonnellis and falconrey---------- if ever in the UK "S" give me a call,love to meet you . SOG.