Pole Luring

[Shaun Byrne]

Anybody ever tried it?

I had a go with a Gyr Lanner yesterday, he had me tied in knots much to the entertainment of a few hunting buddies :oops:

I've done it loads of times before but not with such a fast bird, has anyone else had much success with it as a fitness tool?

[Darren]

What is pole luring...tell me....got any pics of the device

Daz

[Shaun Byrne]

Basically the lure is swung tied to the end of a pole, normally a section of blank fishing rod. It allows you to lead the bird through for longer and keeps the bird further out away from you. The dificulty is that you dont have the option to quickly shorten the lure line as you would with hand luring and if you have a bird that can turn quickly and stay close in it can make it very dificult, as i found out yesterday!

[TimberDog]

H4

Seen it on Mr Foxes vid and certaily differant and he took pole in car and towed along beach at 40MPH with bird in pursuit!!

[Varmint]

Good excersise is to try s few passes with an ordinary lure and very short line held only in one hand!

Get syou into the habit of matching the speed of the bird by turning your body.

I seen a couple of Guys in France lure swinging, and thats exactly how they do it!(god knows why, sorry it was pants)

Once the technique is mastered and transferred to the pole it does make your falcons a lot more confident to the lure, but lure swinging is a whole new Thread on its own, and very few people understand fully the true objective of the whole excersise?

By mastering a variety of passes in the conventional way, it allows you to put the falcon into the piece of air you want it in and and exhibit a certain flying skill whether it be inverting, throwing up, whatever, sadly for most it's just if the birds coming i'll just try and get it to have a go and make a pass?

Pole luring certainly makes your birds throw out further and therefore attack much faster.

Keep trying mate, you'll get there! :yawinkle:

[Shaun Byrne]

to be honest Varmint I prefer the traditional way of luring, I feel more in contact with the bird and can control where I want to put him. I tried pole luring just for a bit of fun but found it quite dificult and awkward, there are those who swear by it though!

[Moritz]

I use the pole lure for my Harris Hawk and I think it is a very good way to get them fit, I used to use the german or french way adrian discripted and it is *****, for both falcons and Hawks. I think a combination of both polelure and handlure should be a good way to get the bird fit. Just practise!

Moritz

[Wightwings]

must admit never seen it done and its never appealed to me.

I do love lure swinging but am ashamed to admit i find out of all the passes the through pass the most awkward one to control :oops:

I recently had the "pleasure" of swinging for three female falcons at the same time up at a friends centre. :rolleyes: luckely the girls are not yet fully fit so after a little airiel dogfighting they eventually came in fine.

[Varmint]

Im interested to know Moritz?

What exactly does your HH do to the pole lure? does it make a pss nad then land in a tree?

Or does it make a pass turn around and make another?

If the latter, how many passes does it make?

Cheers Adrian

[Moritz]

She does both! but more often the flying to the tree or even sitting on the ground. I try to teacher to turn around in flight, ones she fliped over like a falcon. I hope to get her do it every time so her hunting skills increase. I think the pole lure is very good for Harris Hawks! You can work them hard in short time.

Moritz

[Varmint]

Same sort of principle as kite training HH, but they are smart and you might find she soon gets ****ed off?

Let us know how she develop's should be very interesting?

[Moritz]

I don not think she will get ****ed of, because I do something different every day. I use kittraining, pole lure, Fist flying, folowing on, high jumps and hawking. When I use the pole lure, it is used in different. I do not use a rabbit dummy because just a pair of wings. So I can teacher her to catch in the air and on the ground.

Moritz

[OhMyGod]

pole luring can be good for a bird that refuses to grasp the lure and just keeps hitting it as you can pull it through, just in front or its beak with its feet out for a further distance. both methods have pros and cons and are better for individual birds. pole luring takes practice and I also have seen it being used like a fly rod, where you can pull the line through a hoop at the end as well as just moving the pole at speed to give extra lengh.

sound very much like a flirt pole but modified for birds .............

[Gaz]

Let us know how she develop's should be very interesting?
Id be interested as well,....how do you find time to hunt??cos surely hunting would be batter than luring...sorry if i missed something,is it a demo bird??...interested dude :mrgreen:

[Varmint]

I use kittraining

So how high is your HH going to the Kite Moritz?

What sort of Kite do you use?

Any Pics of the action?

[Moritz]

I hunt with her 4 times a week, but if she did not do a lot flying during the hunting, there is not a lot game her, I work her with the lure. She is no demo bird.

The kit is a 2m delta kit. I have not done the kit for some time, but i am going to start again next week. I will take some pics. I do not know how high the can go. The kit is not a stable as it is ment to, so it moves from side to side so she has to catch it when it is moving. From next july on if will have the possebilaty to use a big good kit that is used for falcones so I hope to get better results.

Moritz