First longwing

[Sean D]

I was having a conversation today with another forum member that is considering stepping up to a longwing, what would you advise for a first bird, his permission is pretty open with hedgerows, quarry mainly consists of corvids and pheasants

[CotswoldRedtail]

Really you want to decide whether to make it a rook hawk or a game hawk,as they are fundamentally different. For rooks a good tiercel peregrine will do u well or a pere x saker, for phezzies id get a female peregrine,granted they dont like hedgerows but they are great on phesant. Or get one of each,fly rook in the summer and game in the season! Good luck, longwings are hours of fun!

[SmallPeregrine]

I would strongly discourage anyone attempting to fly a Tiercel Peregrine at any type of corvid its wrong, you will end up with bird having an injury. Hybrid female or meduim size female Peregrine if your going go down the crow hawking avenue. Again if you chose game hawking as your discipline medium sized female Peregrine or one of the permitation hybrids widely available......my preference... Peregrine/saker or Peregrine/prairie 'cause I have not seen a bad one fly.
Good luck
phil

[CloudBase1664]

I would strongly discourage anyone attempting to fly a Tiercel Peregrine at any type of corvid its wrong, you will end up with bird having an injury. Hybrid female or meduim size female Peregrine if your going go down the crow hawking avenue. Again if you chose game hawking as your discipline medium sized female Peregrine or one of the permitation hybrids widely available......my preference... Peregrine/saker or Peregrine/prairie 'cause I have not seen a bad one fly.
Good luck
phil

I'd go for a peregrine /saker female for a first longwing .fly it at game ,if things go wrong try it on corvids.

Dave

[MitchTalon]

but wot ever falcon u pick dont get one trained by somone else unless u no them personaly to be gd at training them its the mistake i made and im paying for it but id say peresaker all the way as there all gd except my female one

[Martin Whitley]

before he looks at flying a falcon at Corvids how big is his permission?, to fly corvids well you need access to a good area of ground to be consistent , if you dont have access to enough ground to get reasonable slips at corvids most days my advice would be don't' bother, he will just spoil the falcon

[Riddick]

before he looks at flying a falcon at Corvids how big is his permission?, to fly corvids well you need access to a good area of ground to be consistent , if you dont have access to enough ground to get reasonable slips at corvids most days my advice would be don't' bother, he will just spoil the falcon i think he has bout 1500acres. hows that?

[Richard Ellis]

i fly my birds on corvid at work and down the farm which about 1500 arces but still i have to go in a different vechicel every now and again as they get used to it and fly off so more land the better? if you want to fly regulary

[Martin Whitley]

i think he has bout 1500acres. hows that?
Thats going to be quite hard to get consistent slips on a patch that size as they soon wise up to you and get hard to approach

[Yarak_Eric]

I'd be giddy for a lanner possibly a pereXlanner but that'd just be me if I was on your side of the pond.