Hawk Eagles?

[Tim Laycock]

Is anyone in the UK owning, Breeding, hunting with true hawk eagles :?:

[Varmint]

Yes Mate, and a good falconer he is too!

He lives in the borders, likes his privacy and is doing some amazing stuff both on the flying and breeding front:wink:

[Afshimo]

lol, what kinda hawk eagles does this falconer have then? U ever hunted with them (prob a stupid q's)

[OutOnAWing]

does anyone breed oriental hawk eagles?they look so beautiful,if/when i get one i think that would have to be the one.

[Varmint]

Yep, same feller bred first one in the UK last year!

[The Late Lord Lucan]

Out on a wing wrotewhen i get one i think that would have to be the one.

I guess I'd be the same, but I'm also guessing that once you had managed to work your way to the top of the waiting list, your going to need a mortgage to buy it?
It would be interesting to find out what they fly like and what they take.
Would I be right in guessing there about the size of a Redtail?

Regards,
Lucky.

[OutOnAWing]

i think their about fhh size,anyway what eagles don't u need a morgage for :D

[The Late Lord Lucan]

anyway what eagles don't u need a morgage for

I think you'll find the price of an Ornate Hawk Eagle goes a tad higher than your average eagle.....
They're probably more closely priced to a female white Gyr.
Is that about right Varmint?

Regards,
Lucky.

[ColdZero]

aren't there LOADS of different strains, practically hundreds...The ones i saw were much bigger than a FHH, i'd guess about 4-5lbs. They are definitely one of the birds i want to keep one day.

[OutOnAWing]

heavy in price and weight then :cry: sigh,well i'll hav to keep on dreaming til i win the lottery :yawinkle:

[Falconry Equipment International]

When threads like this come up, it makes me think. those that want one, what quarry are you going to fly it at?( sorry incidentally they tend to be similar weight to tawny eagles ie 4- 7lbs dependant on species/subspecies and sex) I have had friend swhom I respect well struggle , mostly with Bonnelli's and even when they get them going really well the flight is really laboured , compared to a Female Gos , the quarry usually being HAre. In which case just go for a female Gos!
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[Anton Deja]

Hey ,

I have flown one in 1997 in Spain . ( ornatus spizaetus )
The bird was female and flying at 1350 GRAMS
She was a good hunting bird with a very good character but was not better than a good female gos .
Sometimes the bird was good and on adder days she was worth nothing.
Later we had Ornatus nipalensis flying at 1750 grams and a muth better hunter .

For the moment 2 females ornatus spizaetus for sale in Dubai for 26000 € a piece . ( more or less 18000 £ )
I have to say , the are not worth so much money .

The are very nice ? but to expensive !

[OutOnAWing]

Hey ,
For the moment 2 females ornatus spizaetus for sale in Dubai for 26000 € a piece . ( more or less 18000 Ł )
I have to say , the are not worth so much money !

defiantly a lottery win it is,bang goes my dreams :roll:

[Varmint]

I think the price tag on any ornates bred in 2005 will be around £10-12k??

The male he bred last year flies at around 4lb ish, but very, very slow to mature ( im talking 26 weeks to fly properly?)

I'll fly one some day, but would rather get another well bred and reared Bonelli's, lots of prey spectrum and not so many worries about Joe Public and dogs as i have with the Goldie!

Eagles= A labour of love and respect.

99% of peopel would have ten times more fun with a Gos or even HH?

[OutOnAWing]

still well out of our league at the moment.varmint,can i pick your brains,what would you say would be the ideal display eagle?.I know it should be a carrion eagle rather than a hunting one,ijust like you views.(be gentle with me :lol: )

[Tim Laycock]

It seems a great shame that most of us will never get to fly birds such as these.
prior to 1981 more use was made of these birds in UK falconry, although they were still quite obscure as raptors go.
It just seems a shame that 99% will never get to even try one for a season.

Quote-When threads like this come up, it makes me think. those that want one, what quarry are you going to fly it at?

When I started this thread I hoped it would not draw judgemental comments but it did anyway, Oh well such is life.

[Varmint]

Sorry you thought this thread drew so much negative attittude mate, but the Dum, Dum ,Dindley sneaks in everywhere in this sport, thats the way the world is?

Display Eagle, Fantastic question!

I have several eagles most of which i am sorry to say dont fly half as much as ide like, sadly is's one of the trade offs of doing commercial falconry.
These same birds tend to be the more aggresive species such as the Golden, but the only real reason i dont fly these birds more often is because i always have to risk ***** my actions when dealing with the general public.

I dont really deem any large agressive species as safe in a non controlled environment, and a display eagle is certainly never in a controlled environment?

I've flown Tawny's and Steppe's but they are orrible and nasty creatures with no real charisma, but one day as part of a deal on another bird, came Wallace!

Wallace is a 3 yr old Female Battleur Eagle, who is prob my favourite bird here, period.

I never knew a bird could be so intelligent, talented and such a personality!

She's world champion beer tent skier, The most bouyant bird i've ver seen and has a real fascination with Ladies who have long blonde hair!

The latter comes in very handy :yawinkle:

So i would have to say, for complete ease of worry, reliability and fun, it would have to be my Battleur, but as i have only ever trained her!

I would love to here from anyone else who flies one and compare their personailities and abilities?

[OutOnAWing]

you tart,im sure thats why men like doing display's just to look at the women.tim had a good one with baby ferrets ,a good ahhhh factor especially when the kits when down the ladies top,we'll some one had to retreive them!!!!! :lol: :twisted:
we hav toyed with the idea of a battleur,what they going for nowdays.
p.s,where are you,at a centre?

[Tim Laycock]

Didnt think it drew much negative attitude at all Varmint, just the one negative post .
dont have any aspirations to own a hawk eagle, just posted out of curiousity about the species and specimens in the UK
Like most folks I dont have the game to support them anyway(shame though). lol.

[Hawkmaster]

If I could get an African Hawk Eagle I would, they are AWESOME, maybe even faster than a Gos too.

[ColdZero]

i didn't even know they were good hunters :oops: infact, i know very little about them. It would be great if someone with experience could say a bit more about them.

[OhMyGod]

We have already discussed hawk eagles and what they are capable of and how they should be flown.

[Bill]

We have already discussed hawk eagles and what they are capable of and how they should be flown.

could you be helpful and post a link to that topic please

[Tim Laycock]

Yes that would be mint

[Rowan-Redtail]

hey blackbird,just joined,youare the nearest geographicaly speaking to me.where are you from?

[OhMyGod]

http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1048&highlight=hawk+eagle

http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=2848&highlight=hawk+eagle

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