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Sarkee
05-03-2005, 10:37 PM
In an attempt to pick up a bit about the sport I have tracked down a couple of old friends who are into falconry and also bought "Training birds of prey" by Jemima Parry-Jones, out of all this I have got 3 similar sources of advice but they dont all seem to agree on everything. Admittedly they are not entirely different but they aren't identical either. How do you decide what is correct?



Falconry Equipment International
05-03-2005, 10:47 PM
fraid its a case of trial & error. what works for one does not for the next person. best to find a mentor with similar thought/ways to yours. that even is easier said than done
regards
J
Hawkmaster
05-03-2005, 11:13 PM
Or as we have already established on this forum, many things work, in other words, It all can work, what you need to do is go with what you feel is better for you!
Sarkee
05-03-2005, 11:17 PM
ok, thanks.
Sarkee
05-03-2005, 11:45 PM
Sorry to be a pain and drag the thread out but how do you rate Jemima Parry-Jones' training methods because one of my possible mentors has views similar to hers so I was considering going with him. I am mainly asking because one thing she seems quite adamant about is that you don't need hoods for hawks, she advises a travelling box but from what I can gather on this forum hoods seem to be favourite.

Sorry if this seems a dumb question.
Hawkmaster
05-03-2005, 11:49 PM
I personally do not hood HHs, CBs, RTs, as the more they see the better they become, BUT Gosses it is imperative one does!

I also do not use the travel box, but there are times it is the only way to go, if one say has several birds in the same car?

Best to teach them to do it all though. :lol:
Sarkee
05-03-2005, 11:52 PM
thanks again hm
Hawkmaster
05-03-2005, 11:54 PM
No probs, the others will be here soon I am sure? lol
Coedhirion
06-03-2005, 12:13 AM
When I had my first year Harris I trained him to the hood, just so I can use it if I want. If you dont teach em from the start you can forget it. I have only once realy used it other than to keep him happy with having it on and off, that was for a trip to vets. The waiting room was full of red dogs, parrots and a couple of rabbits. Less stress on all when I took him thro in his hood!!!! I always use a box for travelling, its his second home especialy in the dark when car lights may upset him, also we often travel more than one bird. Know one person who travelled bird on bow, it bated & nearly lost a wing when he shut the door, plus there is a problem if you travel birds and dogs, or have an accident!!
Sarkee
06-03-2005, 12:24 AM
so get it used to the hood even if i don't plan on using it. sounds like good advice, thanks coedhirion
Coedhirion
06-03-2005, 12:45 AM
And the lure,.... good for recalling wayward birds, an a bit nicer to leave in yor hawking vest than tiny chick on end of string !!!! (you add the chic bits to get the hawk wedded to lure then shouldnt need em again, just pull it out swing it an hopefully in it zaps if you got your training right)
Ben C
10-03-2005, 01:39 PM
The thing with hawking and falconry as a whole, is the pace with which you learn things. IT TAKES YEARS. Personally I found a good mentor and stuck to what he said like glue. Way before getting the hawk I read as much as possible and cross referenced it. Then I went out for 6 months and found the best land that I could. Always and I mean always I was in contact with my mentor. Over the next few years the differences and experiences I have had training my hawk will obviously begin to influence my overall approach. However at this early stage I am sticking to what he has taught me with only a few variables. :D :D
IAmTheWeasel
10-03-2005, 02:11 PM
Two most important items a falconer can have....The Lure and the Hood.
Ben C
10-03-2005, 03:20 PM
I always thought it was a left arm and a hawk :lol: :wink: :lol: :wink: :lol:
Varmint
10-03-2005, 04:05 PM
I always thought it was a sense of humour and a long arm to remove the knifes from ones back? :roll: :lol:
OhMyGod
10-03-2005, 04:42 PM
lol at varmint
Gaz
10-03-2005, 06:18 PM
at varmint
:mrgreen:
Coedhirion
11-03-2005, 12:16 AM
Round here its a glove 4 the bird an climbing the barbed wire at speed and a good torch 2 see the ferret or even the bird down the flippin holes before sticking your hands down. :lol: :roll:
Jack Merlin
11-03-2005, 06:33 AM
Wsn't Jemima Philip Glasier's daughter?

And he was Captain Knight's nephew?

That is some line of falconers. Nothing like learning from someone who knows their stuff and is close at hand like this lot, I'd say. But then I haven't read her book.
Bubo
11-03-2005, 09:40 AM
http://yelims4.free.fr/MDR/MDR44.gif http://yelims4.free.fr/MDR/MDR85.gif at varmint
Jon
08-04-2005, 08:53 PM
I have read alot of JPJ books and watched some of her videos. :?
Her dads books are good, i used his books and diagram's on a lecture i had to do in HMF for selection. That went down really well.
OutFlying
08-04-2005, 09:10 PM
I have read alot of JPJ books and watched some of her videos. :?
Her dads books are good, i used his books and diagram's on a lecture i had to do in HMF for selection. That went down really well.

Jon, which service and what selection ?
Jon
08-04-2005, 11:32 PM
Selection for the Army physical training corps, we had to do a twenty min lecture on a subject. Picked one that nobody knows alot about, twenty min ended up being 40 min, Must have worked just left after twelve years.
OutFlying
08-04-2005, 11:51 PM
Only live in Ossy myself, did 11 1/2 on the subs. Probably know the land your going to fly on.
Falconry Equipment International
09-04-2005, 09:37 AM
Wsn't Jemima Philip Glasier's daughter?

And he was Captain Knight's nephew?

That is some line of falconers. Nothing like learning from someone who knows their stuff and is close at hand like this lot, I'd say. But then I haven't read her book.
Jack wasn't PG actually the 'adopted newphew' of Captain Knight?
Jack Merlin
09-04-2005, 12:56 PM
Jack wasn't PG actually the 'adopted newphew' of Captain Knight?

Yes, you are right. Well, more right than I am!

"As A Falcon Her Bells", page 15, (quote) "On Christmas night friends and relatives would arrive, among them my step-uncle, Captain Charles Knight..." (Unquote) So there you go. Presumably, PG came from a broken home.
Jon
09-04-2005, 04:08 PM
Hi Outflying, have we not met?
I don't know how the lads cope with the cramped quarters in subs. :roll:
Wightwings
09-04-2005, 06:20 PM
oooohhh arggg me hearties..... :wink: :lol: ....seriuosly BIG RESPECT to all the forces (or ex) dudes on here
OutFlying
09-04-2005, 06:30 PM
Hi Outflying, have we not met?
I don't know how the lads cope with the cramped quarters in subs. :roll:

I don't think so, but you never know its only a small place.