British Falconers Club Peregrine Nest Box Newcastle upon Tyne

[SmallPeregrine]

Hi folks
Been working on an initiative with Newcastle city council and BFC to install a nest box in the city to encourage its 1st pair of Peregrines to nest in Newcastle.
Months of planning ie finding a sympathetic building owner, designing a box, weather etc been a pain at times but the final product is great. here are some photos taken today
send some more shortly

[SmallPeregrine]

heres somemore

[Barbary Boy]

as you know i was up there saterday phil and with peregrines regularly in the area it was a great choice, good luck m8.

[Liam Fensome]

keith told me about this the otherday very intresting hope it goes well
atb
Liam

[Barbary Boy]

im sure i recognise that pea gravel? where did you get it from? and who else sponsored this project? or was it just the B F C ?

[Barbary Boy]

keith told me about this the otherday very intresting hope it goes well
atb
Liam
liam ! the photos dont do it justice m8. its ferkin high, believe me i was brickin it up there. all credit to phil for the amount of time and effort he has put into this project.

[SmallPeregrine]

Yeah keith your a star, cheers mate your donation, was much appreciated.
I would also like to thank Carl Cheshire for manafacturing the box, cheers too bud. I would also like to thank Phil Lackenby, Jeff Anderson and Jim vasey for giving a hand to hand ball all materials up 10 flights of cast iron staircases ('cause bloody elevators were knackered) and helping to install it too, cheers lads
Phil

[Barbary Boy]

please make it quite clear phil that, that wasnt me stuggling up the stairs with the bloody thing as i was off sick with a bad back at the time?

[Barbary Boy]

Yeah keith your a star, cheers mate your donation, was much appreciated.
I would also like to thank Carl Cheshire for manafacturing the box, cheers too bud. I would also like to thank Phil Lackenby, Jeff Anderson and Jim vasey for giving a hand to hand ball all materials up 10 flights of cast iron staircases ('cause bloody elevators were knackered) and helping to install it too, cheers lads
Phil
my small donation of cash and time as well as effort was my pleasure m8, despite the fact that im not even a member of the B F C?

[Ginty]

I have made one identical to that but made of steel it is situated on top of a grain silo, i positioned it south facing, there are lots of pigeons in the area and i have seen over the years lots of wild peregrines hunting them in the area but so far nothing has nested in it ( 4 years ). Maybe next year !

[Liam Fensome]

please make it quite clear phil that, that wasnt me stuggling up the stairs with the bloody thing as i was off sick with a bad back at the time?

:lol::lol:

[Barbary Boy]

:lol::lol:
it was another incredably good looking fat bloke?

[SmallPeregrine]

Yes i did notice when I was sweating like a rapist carrying two 10kg on me shoulders up 10 flights with you following with a heavy can of coke in you hand!
Cheers keith :)
Phil

[Barbary Boy]

lets hope that all the hard work results in the IFF peregrine web cam Newcastle next year m8?

[Liam Fensome]

Yes i did notice when I was sweating like a rapist carrying two 10kg on me shoulders up 10 flights with you following with a heavy can of coke in you hand!
Cheers keith :)
Phil

Are you sure it was coke this is keith were talking about bottle of wine yes coke deffinetley not
:lol:

[SmallPeregrine]

Cheers Laim/Keith
yeah thats an Idea the IFF can dig deep and tap into there Geneva bank accounts and provide the Cameras????
Think I should hold me breath for it to happen:)
Phil

[Barbary Boy]

im certain that if peregrines were to use this box then, members on here would dig deep into thier pockets to fund cameras, they have been incredably generous in the past for the right project.

[SmallPeregrine]

Thats inetresting IIIV I was also advised to face it south south east this is up 200ft and will never be disturbed so hope this is occupied sooner rather than later
Cheers
Phil

[John Ostranica]

Hi folks
Been working on an initiative with Newcastle city council and BFC to install a nest box in the city to encourage its 1st pair of Peregrines to nest in Newcastle.
Months of planning ie finding a sympathetic building owner, designing a box, weather etc been a pain at times but the final product is great. here are some photos taken today
send some more shortly

Well done and good luck lads .There is a pair nesting on a church near my house in preston its great to see them most days.....John

[CloakDaggerTiercel]

Phil/Keith,

It looks like peregrine 'real estate'.
I know how many pigeons are nearby plus the colony of kittiwakes on the Tyne bridge so they should be well fed if they nest there :lol:.

Good effort.


Nick

[CloudBase1664]

Congratulations Phil.A remarkable achievement!!Screwing money out of the BFC coffers takes some doing.Good luck with the nest box.


Dave

[TLDWB]

Good job guys, things like that are what makes the difference.

Tom

[FlameHairedFalconer]

Nice one Guys, I had no idea that the the BFC was even active in the Newcastle area.


FHF

[SmallPeregrine]

Nice one Guys, I had no idea that the the BFC was even active in the Newcastle area.


FHF
I did try to phone representives of North East but to no avail, but not too bothered, got it done with help from me friends. I am a member so thata all that matters. Its all about the big picture really, positive PR work for British Falconers.
Yeah Dave I know what your saying got to be paid yet for materials etc...
Chasing 'short arms deep pockets' treasurer as we speak:)
Cheers
Phil

[SmallPeregrine]

Phil/Keith,

It looks like peregrine 'real estate'.
I know how many pigeons are nearby plus the colony of kittiwakes on the Tyne bridge so they should be well fed if they nest there :lol:.

Good effort.


Nick
what kittiwakes dont know wot your going on about Nick LOL
Phil

[TiercelMan]

I did try to phone representives of North East but to no avail, but not too bothered, got it done with help from me friends. I am a member so thata all that matters. Its all about the big picture really, positive PR work for British Falconers.
Yeah Dave I know what your saying got to be paid yet for materials etc...
Chasing 'short arms deep pockets' treasurer as we speak:)
Cheers
Phil

Good effort Phil, you'll soon be famous:goodman: Will you still speak to the likes o me when ye are?:lol:
Alistair

[GameHawker]

Congratulations Phil.A remarkable achievement!!Screwing money out of the BFC coffers takes some doing.Good luck with the nest box.


Dave

Dave

Think you will find that no money has been donated by BFC at all. Fingers crossed for next year.

Regards

Carl Cheshire

[CloudBase1664]

:Dave

Think you will find that no money has been donated by BFC at all. Fingers crossed for next year.

Regards

Carl Cheshire

:lol:Dont worry Carl if it looks like being a success and there's any chance of good PR :.The 'faces' in the BFC will not be backward in comming forward.They might even form a sub-committee:lol:

Dave (harsh but fair):lol:

[Keith Barker]

its a great idea and from what i can see top class workmanship , hats off to those involved.
lets hope the pair that nest there dont have pink rings fitted!<g> joke

keith

[LanczSpringer]

Looks great, hope its soon occupied!

By the way I think the faces in the BFC are looking forwards already! They have sponsored the Derby Wildlife Trust (DWT) Peregrine webcam on Derby Catherderal without the need for a "sub-committiee"!!

http://www.derby.gov.uk/DCCCMS/SiteCMS/Templates/GenericContent.aspx?NRMODE=Published&NRORIGINALURL=%2fLeisureCulture%2fMuseumsGalleries %2fEnvironmentalProjects%2fPeregrineProject%2ehtm&NRNODEGUID=%7bE5C52F32-43DA-4FAC-B270-4C0C93F130FC%7d&NRCACHEHINT=NoModifyGuest#Sponsors

I think it's all a step in the right direction and credit to everyone involved in this and the DWT projects.

Ant



:

:lol:Dont worry Carl if it looks like being a success and there's any chance of good PR :.The 'faces' in the BFC will not be backward in comming forward.They might even form a sub-committee:lol:

Dave (harsh but fair):lol:

[SmallPeregrine]

[quote=LanczSpringer;833385]Looks great, hope its soon occupied!

By the way I think the faces in the BFC are looking forwards already! They have sponsored the Derby Wildlife Trust (DWT) Peregrine webcam on Derby Catherderal without the need for a "sub-committiee"!!

Dear Ant
Actually a certain individuals within the BFC council was at 1st against the whole idea of putting this nestbox up. This project although being sanctioned by council did nearly not come about because of these certain individuals negativity.
That was then why a £150 was donated by the BFC to sponsor DWT as a token jesture to apease this Peregrine Nestbox project failing.
It was the bloody mindiness of a few BFC members directly involved that made this project work and happen.
I think straightens the politics about the construction of this Nestbox project and your right in saying it's all a step in the right direction and credit to everyone involved in this and the DWT projects.
Cheers
Phil
ps Alister always:goodman:

[Judd Casper]

Hi folks
Been working on an initiative with Newcastle city council and BFC to install a nest box in the city to encourage its 1st pair of Peregrines to nest in Newcastle.
Months of planning ie finding a sympathetic building owner, designing a box, weather etc been a pain at times but the final product is great. here are some photos taken today
send some more shortlyHi Phil why have you botherd with the BFC stickers on the box when they havent come up with the cash for it.....take them off and call it your own Project as they have had little to do with it.


Sam

[SmallPeregrine]

Hi Phil why have you botherd with the BFC stickers on the box when they havent come up with the cash for it.....take them off and call it your own Project as they have had little to do with it.


Sam

Hi Sam
The club will eventually pay the amount of money to those concerned who donated time, materials and effort in time.
People who were involved in this effort(most not BFC members) done it for the hope that Peregrines eventually take residence and raise young in the box, a 1st for Newcastle city and will get a great sense of achievement from playing there part.
I done it to raise the profile of the club and for British Falconers as a whole to prove that we are Falconers but also conservationists at heart too (which I generally believe 99% of us are).
I did feel a bit disillusioned Sam half way through the project not getting the full support from certain partys of the club but heay its the way it goes sometime. I dont want to wash dirty laundry of BFC on here from a small party of that club that made me feel that way. Its up there, completed and its in the lap of the Peregrine Gods to see if it is successfull. I hope it is, cant see why not and if becomes half as successfull as Derby Cathedral Peregrine box I be very happy for all who were involved in the project.
Cheers
Phil :D

[Ginty]

I have kept the location of my nest box quiet, its not good PR for falconers to be getting involved in this sort of thing. If peregrines breed in the box and the whole world knows about it, the falconers concerned will end up being accused of taking the young from the site sooner or later. IMO.

[Cassini]

I have kept the location of my nest box quiet, its not good PR for falconers to be getting involved in this sort of thing. If peregrines breed in the box and the whole world knows about it, the falconers concerned will end up being accused of taking the young from the site sooner or later. IMO.

Thats kind of a strange comment when you consider the Peregrine fund is a bunch of
falconers that"GOT INVOLVED IN THIS SORT OF THING" 20 years ago and have'nt had
too much bad publicity since!! Without falconers getting involved in this sort of thing
there would be no peregrines in the U.S.

Why shouldn't we show that we have a big Conservation message to send out.
we should be doing the same with Grey Partridges! I know Phil has had his ditractors
on this subject and I also had reservations about certain aspects of it but at least
he's trying to do some thing positive .
I hope its a success!

Carl The Box looks cool by the way! I just hope they find the site to their liking!

[FlameHairedFalconer]

I have kept the location of my nest box quiet, its not good PR for falconers to be getting involved in this sort of thing. If peregrines breed in the box and the whole world knows about it, the falconers concerned will end up being accused of taking the young from the site sooner or later. IMO.

Sorry - but given that Newcastle is known for stotties, flat caps and pigeon racing I think if anything happened to any breeding pair or chicks the finger would be pointed in a completely different direction. I mean the North East has the only listed pigeon loft!!!

I think this is a great project and I am looking forward to seeing a webcam on the Newcastle City Council website at some point etc etc. Its great for the area and great PR for falconers. Well done Phil et al!

[Ginty]

Fair comment !

But peregrines are no longer endangered and the BFC, are from what i have heard been asking for a wild take licence. So the situations are not comparable. IMO.




Thats kind of a strange comment when you consider the Peregrine fund is a bunch of
falconers that"GOT INVOLVED IN THIS SORT OF THING" 20 years ago and have'nt had
too much bad publicity since!! Without falconers getting involved in this sort of thing
there would be no peregrines in the U.S.

Why shouldn't we show that we have a big Conservation message to send out.
we should be doing the same with Grey Partridges! I know Phil has had his ditractors
on this subject and I also had reservations about certain aspects of it but at least
he's trying to do some thing positive .
I hope its a success!

Carl The Box looks cool by the way! I just hope they find the site to their liking!

[Barbary Boy]

when a wild take is started again, it wouldnt be from a box like this, it would be from areas with denser populations.

[Cassini]

Fair comment !

But peregrines are no longer endangered and the BFC, are from what i have heard been asking for a wild take licence. So the situations are not comparable. IMO.

You have a point too ,

What I'm trying to say is that we shouldn't be afraid to be involved in supporting
wild pairs of Peregrines or any other bird for that matter even with the possibility
(although I think Its slim ) Of a wild take . You also said it your self Peregrines
are no longer endangered quite the oposite in fact.

I don't want this now to turn into a debate on wild take as this is for another thread.

I just think we should be a bit more involved like our friends across the pond
and should be extolling the good things about ourselves in our passion for
Raptors and other wildlife.

[Barbary Boy]

why should a wild take be a slim posability? licenses were granted for peregrines when thier numbers were no where near the numbers they are now. people are affraid to ask i think! licensing has NEVER stopped it was a voluntairy ban by the hawk board and in theory anyone can apply still, if you tick the right boxes and brown nose the right bums it should still be possable? and why the hell not? they are commoner now than since records began, a wild take would have absolutly NO impact on wild populations whatsoever! the arguement being that we dont need them due to captive breeding! fair enough, we probbably dont desperatly need a wild take. but some gauranteed new blood into the captive flock wouldnt hurt. and why shouldnt a small number of committed falconers not have the pleasure and unique experience of taking thier own wild eyess?

[Coupe]

dont get it ! the money could have been better spent on commissioning another one of those brass buttons for your shirt or even better one of those limited addition bronze statues so you could shove it up your ringer.:oops:

[Yeoman]

:lol::lol::lol:

[SmallPeregrine]

Dont know Glyn about that......does it hurt????:yawinkle:

[Coupe]

the statue looked a bit scarey so i tried the button first and f*****g lost it.

[BlackFalcon]

the statue looked a bit scarey so i tried the button first and f*****g lost it.

I wouldn’t hold out a lot of hope of a volunteer going in and retrieving it for you son :lol:

Chris

[Spar7]

I have kept the location of my nest box quiet, its not good PR for falconers to be getting involved in this sort of thing. If peregrines breed in the box and the whole world knows about it, the falconers concerned will end up being accused of taking the young from the site sooner or later. IMO.

To be honest Henry VIII, I dont think you really appreciate how high the building is. Put it this way, if you fall from the top, you have enough time to write a will before hitting the deck! it has 4 sheer walls that even spiderman would think twice about. Apart from that, it is under lock and key and has a regular security guard doing the rounds. i can understand your concern for lower nest sites with easier access but in this case, if they do nest, i can honestly say that human hands will not be on their list of worries.

Craig

[SmallPeregrine]

Update 24th Sept. 2008

Been to check BFC nest box today, general maintenance really especially after floods and horrendous weather we have had recently, nothing to worry about, everything okay.
When I 1st arrived I was really surprised at how many pigeons that were sitting around the place.
As you can see by the pictures there is a sustainable food resource around the building if they choose to take residence!:D
Here's hoping
Phil

[Vince Haynes]

Any up dates on the nest box, has got any sighting's of peregrine's or is it being used by the feral pigeon's.

Vince

[SmallPeregrine]

Any up dates on the nest box, has got any sighting's of peregrine's or is it being used by the feral pigeon's.

Vince

Female Peregrine has been sighted on regular basis very close to the box site the last couple of months. A friend of mine who breeds and races Roller pigeons has lost a couple of his birds to her in the last couple of months. When I was there 6 weeks ago I did notice there were not the amount of pigeons around the building as there usually is????
I have been meaning to go up to the box but been busy with work. I intend to go down there in the next couple of weeks to check the sub structure of the box etc. Thanks for asking:D

[Hyfly]

Hi Phil keep the good work up, perhaps the bfc will foot your petrol instead.

Keep flying high :supz:

Jeff

[FalconryMews101]

I think we all need to make massive attempts to show we are conservation minded and not just a bunch of peep who go out on jollies with our captive birds hunting. I get involved with quite a few conservation projects, one currently is a peregrine watch, on the rota next to my name it says that i'm an ethical falconer!? I know this is just one case but trust me alot of people think this about falconry/falconers (IMO).

The Peregrine Fund is a fantastic setup IMO, and i dont think were doing too bad as most people will agree out best centre is the Hawk Conservancy Trust!

Whats eveyone elses views?

Ps Great work on the box i've often looked at doing it in my local town if possible.

[Dean]

I think we all need to make massive attempts to show we are conservation minded and not just a bunch of peep who go out on jollies with our captive birds hunting. I get involved with quite a few conservation projects, one currently is a peregrine watch, on the rota next to my name it says that i'm an ethical falconer!? I know this is just one case but trust me alot of people think this about falconry/falconers (IMO).

The Peregrine Fund is a fantastic setup IMO, and i dont think were doing too bad as most people will agree out best centre is the Hawk Conservancy Trust!

Whats eveyone elses views?

Ps Great work on the box i've often looked at doing it in my local town if possible.Yeh well done Lads,I,d be alright trying to put one up in my local town the pigeon lads would string me up!They are commoner than kestrels in the West Mids!

[Chicquera]

I had been thinking about approaching my local Council re a similar scheme but I wondered if they'd get some grief from the pigeon fanciers.
Was there any protest from them with the Newcastle scheme ?

[SmallPeregrine]

I had been thinking about approaching my local Council re a similar scheme but I wondered if they'd get some grief from the pigeon fanciers.
Was there any protest from them with the Newcastle scheme ?

Didn't tell them to be fair, its a big blue carpet up there:D.
The difficult part on putting up a Peregrine nest box is to get a sympathetic building owner to allow you to erect one on his building.
When I originally approached the City Council they said they were not interested until there was a resident pair nesting in the city then would they back the scheme to erect a box...which is Irish in my mind:roll:
Its a logistic nightmare but it will be all worth while when a Peregrine nests and raises young in the 'Des res' I put up:D

[Chicquera]

Of course you could go one step further and hack some young out of it but that would take a lot of time and energy.
There are one or two buildings in my area that have possibilities but I think the pigeon boys would have something to say. The one is a new eco-friendly power station run by EON UK, looks a perfect site but the whole place is lit up at night, I wonder if that would put birds off !



Didn't tell them to be fair, its a big blue carpet up there:D.
The difficult part on putting up a Peregrine nest box is to get a sympathetic building owner to allow you to erect one on his building.
When I originally approached the City Council they said they were not interested until there was a resident pair nesting in the city then would they back the scheme to erect a box...which is Irish in my mind:roll:
Its a logistic nightmare but it will be all worth while when a Peregrine nests and raises young in the 'Des res' I put up:D

[SmallPeregrine]

Of course you could go one step further and hack some young out of it but that would take a lot of time and energy.
There are one or two buildings in my area that have possibilities but I think the pigeon boys would have something to say. The one is a new eco-friendly power station run by EON UK, looks a perfect site but the whole place is lit up at night, I wonder if that would put birds off !

There is no regulations concerning Nest boxes and I wouldn't be put off by the pigeon idiots. The light will not put them off, that Tiercel at Derby hunts woodcock and snipe at night

[Chicquera]

Where did you get the design from, was it a P-Fund design ?



There is no regulations concerning Nest boxes and I wouldn't be put off by the pigeon idiots. The light will not put them off, that Tiercel at Derby hunts woodcock and snipe at night

[SmallPeregrine]

Where did you get the design from, was it a P-Fund design ?
Me and Carl Cheshire designed it and Carl (Gamehawker products) Manufactured it

[Chicquera]

What was it made from, cant seem to see any photos of it on the thread now.

Me and Carl Cheshire designed it and Carl (Gamehawker products) Manufactured it

[SmallPeregrine]

What was it made from, cant seem to see any photos of it on the thread now.
Plastic and cut on a CNC machine

[Chicquera]

Smart !!! Looks like you already had a ledge to put it on then ?

[Dave Johnson]

Remember guys when you put these peregrine boxes up try to make sure that there are ledges/balconies and perches below the box at about 10ft apart for the juveniles to land on when they first fledge,if there isn't,the young will try and land on the flat side of the building and slip down to ground level,where anything can happen to them.Cathedrial's and churches are good sites because of all the perching places and nooks and crannies the young can cling to.I watch 2 sites in central London,1 has balconies all the way to ground level i have only needed to rescue 1 out of 11 fledged young.The other site has no perching places below the box,i have rescued 8 out of 8 fledged young.If people are putting up boxes and they get used please see that you are there when they fledge,if you cant be there make sure someone is.These young are very tame and anyone can and will walk off with them as will a fox.If no one can be there dont put up boxes.Dave

[Dean]

Are the falcons being tempted into towns and cities to keep the feral pigeon poulation down?

[Dave Johnson]

No.We are putting up boxes in suitable areas about 1 and half miles apart and in suitable positions{usually facing east} on selective roofs{with decent ledges below the boxes for the juvs first flight}}the birds are just taking up residency in them.We are having a meeting{London peregrine working group}in August to see how many pairs are in the greater london area.There could be {no exageration}13 pairs.We do have already {last year 8 pairs} the most urban breeding peregrines in the uk for a city/town.And the way it is going it could even be the most in europe for a city/town.They are everywhere here.Dave

[Dean]

No.We are putting up boxes in suitable areas about 1 and half miles apart and in suitable positions{usually facing east} on selective roofs{with decent ledges below the boxes for the juvs first flight}}the birds are just taking up residency in them.We are having a meeting{London peregrine working group}in August to see how many pairs are in the greater london area.There could be {no exageration}13 pairs.We do have already {last year 8 pairs} the most urban breeding peregrines in the uk for a city/town.And the way it is going it could even be the most in europe for a city/town.They are everywhere here.DaveWhy Dave?Just interested mate!

[Dave Johnson]

We feel{the group}that because there are so many.It would be better to attract them to sites where it is safer for them{less hassle from contractors etc}and because of the fledgling's first flight situation,we choose a site where there are ledges/balconies below the box for them to land on.If we didn't the birds would breed anyway on sites where it would hazardous{in the peregrines eyes these sites would be good}but not in ours.I hope i've made a bit of sense of this as i've had a few light ales.Dave

[Dean]

We feel{the group}that because there are so many.It would be better to attract them to sites where it is safer for them{less hassle from contractors etc}and because of the fledgling's first flight situation,we choose a site where there are ledges/balconies below the box for them to land on.If we didn't the birds would breed anyway on sites where it would hazardous{in the peregrines eyes these sites would be good}but not in ours.I hope i've made a bit of sense of this as i've had a few light ales.DaveBut wouldnt this be natures way of keeping them out of towns mate,we are overun with them here in the mids too but to my knowledge no-one has attempted to help them!The pigeon lads call them the germans!:twisted::lol:

[John Ostranica]

Are the falcons being tempted into towns and cities to keep the feral pigeon poulation down?

Hi Dean ,our local peregrines which nest on a church are surrounded by pidgeons but they seem to always fly out to the coast to hunt waders . Its funny to see pidgeons sat preening themselfs just a few feet from the peregrines ,....John

[Dean]

Its amazing how many corresponding ring numbers can be found on the plucking plateau,s on the quarries in the mids!:yawinkle:

[Dave Johnson]

But wouldnt this be natures way of keeping them out of towns mate,we are overun with them here in the mids too but to my knowledge no-one has attempted to help them!The pigeon lads call them the germans!:twisted::lol:

I do understand what you are saying,and I do agree.This also was talked about by the group.We feel now that because all the territoys are taken up that no more boxes will go up.They will have to sort themselves out{natures way}.Dave

[John Ostranica]

here are our local peregrines,

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f135/john2008_010/th_SDC12013.jpg (http://s46.photobucket.com/albums/f135/john2008_010/?action=view&current=SDC12013.flv)

[Dave Johnson]

Do the young fledge ok without needing to be rescued.There looks like a lot of perches for them?Dave

[John Ostranica]

Do the young fledge ok without needing to be rescued.There looks like a lot of perches for them?Dave

Hi dave ,Last season they raised 3 young no problems but the year before the eggs never hatched . A nest platform was made around the right hand side of the vid but they have never used it ...John

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f135/john2008_010/SDC12015.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f135/john2008_010/SDC12016-1.jpg


http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f135/john2008_010/SDC12012-1-1.jpg

[Dave Johnson]

As I SAID LOTS OF PERCHING PLACES FOR THEM{THE JUVS}.EXCELLENT:supz:

[Dave Johnson]

Update 24th Sept. 2008

Been to check BFC nest box today, general maintenance really especially after floods and horrendous weather we have had recently, nothing to worry about, everything okay.
When I 1st arrived I was really surprised at how many pigeons that were sitting around the place.
As you can see by the pictures there is a sustainable food resource around the building if they choose to take residence!:D
Here's hoping
Phil

The box IMHO should of gone up just above the oval shaped window on that ledge on the 2nd photo.The sheer walls will be a serious hazzard for any newly fledged young.When they fledge they fly straight out get about 60-70 metres away turn around and fly back losing height all the time and they will hit them sheer walls and slide to the ground.I've seen it happen far to often.With the box being higher at least{on that building}they would be able to crash land on a ledge.As i've already said someone needs to be there when they fledge.We all learn by our mistakes,this is how I learned by doing exactly the same thing.I'm just trying to pass on what happened to me 7 years ago in London,i'm not trying to have a pop at you,i'm just trying to help.If they dont breed this year get the box up above the oval window.Regards Dave

[GameHawker]

Thanks for the photo's Dave. I hope you don't mind me posting them on here. Looking for to hearing about the progress of this nest site and the pair.

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All the best

Carl

[GameHawker]

Dave I hope you are keeping well. Do you ahve any news of the pair using the above nest site.

Regards

Carl

[Dave Johnson]

Dave I hope you are keeping well. Do you ahve any news of the pair using the above nest site.

Regards

Carl

Hi Carl
There are birds around but none so far have investigated the box.There is still time though.I'll let you know if anything happens.They have used this site before,twice succesfully 2 young then 3 young.Dave

[LeafCut]

Well done Phil and all those involved in the project. This is a genuine conservation project that can only have a positive outcome-great stuff. I once approached the R.S.P.B. about a grant for such a venture in Sunderland but was told that because the peregrine was not rare they couldnt assist ?. In an ideal world the location would be just right,the city planners would assist with erection of the box,some good soul would donate half a dozen web cams and fellow falconers would supply a half dozen young peregrines for hack. You got this far Phil and you are to be congratulated-well done...Nick.

[John Ostranica]

The box IMHO should of gone up just above the oval shaped window on that ledge on the 2nd photo.The sheer walls will be a serious hazzard for any newly fledged young.When they fledge they fly straight out get about 60-70 metres away turn around and fly back losing height all the time and they will hit them sheer walls and slide to the ground.I've seen it happen far to often.With the box being higher at least{on that building}they would be able to crash land on a ledge.As i've already said someone needs to be there when they fledge.We all learn by our mistakes,this is how I learned by doing exactly the same thing.I'm just trying to pass on what happened to me 7 years ago in London,i'm not trying to have a pop at you,i'm just trying to help.If they dont breed this year get the box up above the oval window.Regards Dave

Do we know if the box has been moved to a more suitable position Dave ? ...John

[SmallPeregrine]

The box IMHO should of gone up just above the oval shaped window on that ledge on the 2nd photo.The sheer walls will be a serious hazzard for any newly fledged young.When they fledge they fly straight out get about 60-70 metres away turn around and fly back losing height all the time and they will hit them sheer walls and slide to the ground.I've seen it happen far to often.With the box being higher at least{on that building}they would be able to crash land on a ledge.As i've already said someone needs to be there when they fledge.We all learn by our mistakes,this is how I learned by doing exactly the same thing.I'm just trying to pass on what happened to me 7 years ago in London,i'm not trying to have a pop at you,i'm just trying to help.If they dont breed this year get the box up above the oval window.Regards Dave
Thanks Dave for the info going to check the box next week hopefully.
Will try and take some photos and stick them up here:D

[Dave Johnson]

Do we know if the box has been moved to a more suitable position Dave ? ...John

I dont know you will have to ask phil.But from the photo he took there is an obvious round/oval window with a ledge there.It would be good if the box was on there,so if they bred the young when they fledge would have lower ledges to land on.This is important for urban birds.When boxes are put on the lowest ledge the young cannot get back to the nestledge when they have there first flight,they then lose height and try to land on the straight side of the building and slide down,and end up on the ground.When the box is put up at its highest point,then when they fledge at least they can land on lower ledges/window sills.I hope you understood that.:rolleyes:Dave

[Dave Johnson]

Hi all.
If any one is interested we in London{all volunteers}have made a website about how the public, building managers,window cleaners etc can get help and advise if they have peregrines on there building.The address is
www.london-peregrine-partnership.org.uk
Some of the photos on the links are the best peregrine photos I have ever seen.
Regards Dave

[Robam]

Hi all.
If any one is interested we in London{all volunteers}have made a website about how the public, building managers,window cleaners etc can get help and advise if they have peregrines on there building.The address is
www.london-peregrine-partnership.org.uk (http://www.london-peregrine-partnership.org.uk)
Some of the photos on the links are the best peregrine photos I have ever seen.
Regards Dave


A great site and some cracking photo's on there Dave :yawinkle::D

Rob

[Dave Johnson]

A great site and some cracking photo's on there Dave :yawinkle::D

Rob

Thank you Rob for letting us use some of yours,we all want to help this magnificent bird if we can,and so far this year we have already had phonecalls and emails about peregrines on buildings.And we have given advise and put up a few trays/boxes.So the website is working.:supz::supz:Dave

[Robam]

Thank you Rob for letting us use some of yours,we all want to help this magnificent bird if we can,and so far this year we have already had phonecalls and emails about peregrines on buildings.And we have given advise and put up a few trays/boxes.So the website is working.:supz::supz:Dave

Excellent news Dave, I would love to come down to London in the Summer meet you guys and spend a day watching :supz:

Rob

[Dave Johnson]

Excellent news Dave, I would love to come down to London in the Summer meet you guys and spend a day watching :supz:

Rob

Hi Rob.The bbc last july filmed a family group of 3 juveniles flying around{in london} and have done a programme which should be coming out soon i'll let you know when it will be aired.Let me know when you want to come down and i'll show you around.Dave

[GameHawker]

Hi all.
If any one is interested we in London{all volunteers}have made a website about how the public, building managers,window cleaners etc can get help and advise if they have peregrines on there building.The address is
www.london-peregrine-partnership.org.uk
Some of the photos on the links are the best peregrine photos I have ever seen.
Regards Dave

Dave, I will and this link to our Facebook page to our new website when we have it up and running.

Regards Carl

[CloakDaggerTiercel]

Some stunning pictures there.
The food pass is amazing.

Nick

[B C]

Hi Dave,

Just spotted this thread. The pictures are absolutely brilliant.
I was working in London from Oct to Nov last year and was fortunate enough to look skyward at the right time to witness an adult tiercel take a pigeon high in the sky above Whitehall. He flew into the top of the tower next to the park area on the Houses of Parliament - must be the safest roosting spot in the uk?
I wondered at the time if the Peregrines nest on that Tower, maybe you can enlighten me - although for security reasons I wouldn't be surprised if no nest box/tray was allowed to be sited there?
Its an excellent website mate.

Regards
Bernie