Whats The Best Hawk For Pheasants

[Dafydd23]

WHATS THE BEST HAWK FOR PHEASANTS, hunting of the fist , i can get to within 10ft of them before they take off and my fhh is a bit to slow , also have to take rabbit and hare thanks

[ScuffMan]

The Mighty GOSHAWK......:)

[CJTaylor]

A gosshawk is realy the only hawk that can take pheasants with any real regularity,harris and reds will take them if they can mug (drop out of a tree etc onto an unsuspecting) many will now comment on how theirs can fly them down,? but as you have already found, a harris is no match in flight for a full grown pheasant...maybe you could try a gyr/saker of the fist...,these are larger and faster birds than harrises...colin

[Smudge33]

i flew with a male and female harris of the fist at pheasant and caught??? Also follow on. Is your bird fit.

[Dafydd23]

yea she follows on ,and is fit she can catch them like people say dropping out of a tree and if the wind is strong which she uses to her advantage but not once they take off and 9/10 times they take off

[Dafydd23]

i was thinking of a male ferrigouns because the land i go on is sand dunes and heather fields with not many trees but with loads of hare , rabbit and pheasants and duck

[Falco Ireland]

goshawk is the one for you
regards kenny

[Ben C]

A ferruginous is too slow as well......plus they would have swallowed most of the pheasant by the time you get to them a mile away.

[Smudge33]

What about a pere/saker would that do it. not to sure on rabbit

[Gosman]

Goshawk without a caught, my male cought loads but the male is no good for hares.

[Yeoman]

Accipiter gentilis p/r german female

[Sean White]

A ferruginous is too slow as well......plus they would have swallowed most of the pheasant by the time you get to them a mile away.

Ben.............. Slow? you ever seen gaping mouth on a long slip? Although I agree not the best on longtail.
Sean.

[Dafydd23]

thanks all , how fast are Ferruginous hawks some say there fast others dont , aslo what are the best type goss , finnish , finish x german etc and what prices for males and is it to late now to get 1

[TimDog80]

goshawk:D..........if you want to see it happen give me a shout and ill bring my female gos over once shes going;):razz:

atb
tim

[Dafydd23]

goshawk:D..........if you want to see it happen give me a shout and ill bring my female gos over once shes going;):razz:

atb
tim

were u from timdog

[jennings]

hi daffy, i have a mhh and he is great on pheasants and rabbits, a hare is a bit out of his league thoe, saying that he is a large malw. hope this helps

[BarbaryHawking06]

Doesn't matter what it is of the above mentioned you are in the wrong section!!!!!! This is for longwings and not for short and broadwings! :box:

[TimDog80]

were u from timdog
bridgend area mate.

[Dafydd23]

when u out next now tim dog as i used to live in bridgend we could go out hunting 1 day

[TimDog80]

when u out next now tim dog as i used to live in bridgend we could go out hunting 1 day
i collect the new gos at the end of the month so give me a few weeks to get it going tidy and give me a shout and ill come down,preferably once the game season starts ofcourse if you have plenty of pheasants to go at as you say:yawinkle:

tim

[Ben C]

Ben.............. Slow? you ever seen gaping mouth on a long slip? Although I agree not the best on longtail.
Sean.

I have been bloody well attacked by one on a trap...(i like them) but too slow for phessy's is what I ment.....and they do eat lots. :supz::supz:

[Island Lad]

A ferruginous is too slow as well......plus they would have swallowed most of the pheasant by the time you get to them a mile away.

Agree with the second bit but why do people think ferugginous's are slow and lazy. We have a 2 year female and at short low level flying she's an aboslute rocket. The only thing that may let them down in the hunting field is there small feet. But she's loving winding up the local crow's with killer flight patterns. More respect for the fruuuuge i say !:supz:

[Ben C]

Agree with the second bit but why do people think ferugginous's are slow and lazy. We have a 2 year female and at short low level flying she's an aboslute rocket. The only thing that may let them down in the hunting field is there small feet. But she's loving winding up the local crow's with killer flight patterns. More respect for the fruuuuge i say !:supz:

who said LAZY!!!!!!! Never used the word go check before tacking it on to my words to make your argument sound better. :supz:

Look all I said was......"TOO SLOW FOR PHEASANTS"..........I also said I liked them.......Tell me if your stood back 30 ft from a rising cock pheasant in December with the wind blowing like a ******, would the ferrugenous do the job?

The initial question was what was the BEST hawk for pheasants.......not if ferrugenous hawk are good.....:D:D

[Ben C]

....... short low level flying she's an aboslute rocket.:

Pheasant dont fly short, low level now do they......:supz::box::heart:


(All of this said in a nice friendly way as well...LOL)

[Dafydd23]

i collect the new gos at the end of the month so give me a few weeks to get it going tidy and give me a shout and ill come down,preferably once the game season starts ofcourse if you have plenty of pheasants to go at as you say:yawinkle:

tim
yea mate thats fine , and theres plenty of game there to hunt to much somtimes my fhh gets confused which 1 to go for .Its not far from bridgend either

[RedNoseK9]

Dafyd you have been given the answer to your question my man It is the Male goshawk that excels at pheasant from the fist however what is your experiance mate

Wez

[Cesena]

Male Gos for me.:supz:

[Vernon]

WHATS THE BEST HAWK FOR PHEASANTS, hunting of the fist ,

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[Dafydd23]

Dafyd you have been given the answer to your question my man It is the Male goshawk that excels at pheasant from the fist however what is your experiance mate

Wez
its will be my second bird so if i did have a goss i think it would have to be p/r

[RedNoseK9]

How long have you been flying your harris and with what success mate.
Definately P/R mate yes for your first Gos


its will be my second bird so if i did have a goss i think it would have to be p/r

[Dafydd23]

How long have you been flying your harris and with what success mate.
Definately P/R mate yes for your first Gos

about 7 months ive had her , shes caught with me 6 duck , 2 pheasants , loads of rabbits and 1 hare

[RedNoseK9]

I think u need to stick with her for a bit longer and make sure she is fit and on weight stop letting her follow on and treat her exactly as u would if she were a gos fly her from the fist at suitable slips on Pheasant and duck and this will build confidence you will enjoy the season with her and if you are flying her regularly she will definately perform well enough to catch a pheasant that rises 10 yards in front of you it is easy to just get another bird but a falconer gets the best out of the bird he has.

Wez



about 7 months ive had her , shes caught with me 6 duck , 2 pheasants , loads of rabbits and 1 hare

[Dafydd23]

I think u need to stick with her for a bit longer and make sure she is fit and on weight stop letting her follow on and treat her exactly as u would if she were a gos fly her from the fist at suitable slips on Pheasant and duck and this will build confidence you will enjoy the season with her and if you are flying her regularly she will definately perform well enough to catch a pheasant that rises 10 yards in front of you it is easy to just get another bird but a falconer gets the best out of the bird he has.

Wez
she only flies from the fist now as were i go there and not many trees its sand dunes and like heather feilds ,shes fit and out flying 2-3 hours a day in the week and about 5 hours at saturday@ sunday exepct for monday and tuesday when i give her a full crop and shes over weight and shes a good hunter il still be keeping her as my son wants to fly her with me. when im out next il put some pics up of the terrian and video of her hunting

[Andrew Connor]

WHATS THE BEST HAWK FOR PHEASANTS, hunting of the fist , i can get to within 10ft of them before they take off and my fhh is a bit to slow , also have to take rabbit and hare thanks

You sound like you havent got a clue what you are doing by this post how many season have you been flying ?

[Kentish Falconry]

You sound like you havent got a clue what you are doing by this post how many season have you been flying ?

Read the thread this has been answered and I do not want to see this thread degenerate into a slagging match. Any more inflammatory posts will be removed
Terry

[MaeBoy]

i was thinking of a male ferrigouns because the land i go on is sand dunes and heather fields with not many trees but with loads of hare , rabbit and pheasants and duck
I tried everything I could to make my male Ferrigenous to catch pheasants for two seasons many years back. only one cock ,that stood its ground.

[Dafydd23]

I tried everything I could to make my male Ferrigenous to catch pheasants for two seasons many years back. only one cock ,that stood its ground.

so dont get a ferrigenious to catch pheastants then ,cheers mate

[MaeBoy]

so dont get a ferrigenious to catch pheastants then ,cheers mate
I can only share what I have experienced. I would be happy to hear about someone out there with succes ,and his method.

[BlackSpar]

WHATS THE BEST HAWK FOR PHEASANTS, hunting of the fist , i can get to within 10ft of them before they take off and my fhh is a bit to slow , also have to take rabbit and hare thanks

A Gos is the answer but as wes said i would give your bird a bit longer and not throw the towel in to quick! give her a chance.
if you are flying as much as you say the you will have her fully fit in no time at all.

[Dafydd23]

A Gos is the answer but as wes said i would give your bird a bit longer and not throw the towel in to quick! give her a chance.
if you are flying as much as you say the you will have her fully fit in no time at all.

ive been thinking that now and not sure about a goss yet maybe another year or so yet as i heard they are difficult birds to train and keep and still learning myself hope to go out hunting with some people with goss to see what there like , so if any 1 in south or west wales with goss this season wouldnt mind me tagging along with my fhh to see what there like get in touch

[BlackSpar]

ive been thinking that now and not sure about a goss yet maybe another year or so yet as i heard they are difficult birds to train and keep and still learning myself hope to go out hunting with some people with goss to see what there like , so if any 1 in south or west wales with goss this season wouldnt mind me tagging along with my fhh to see what there like get in touch


good post mate. keep up this kind of thinking and dont just junp in like so many have in the past!
regards

[RedNoseK9]

Great post and the attitude of a falconer Your female will take 3 seasons too get the best out of her providing you have put the effort in on the first and second season so please persevere with her and donate even more effort to her tis season and the rewards will come i will follow your season

Wez



ive been thinking that now and not sure about a goss yet maybe another year or so yet as i heard they are difficult birds to train and keep and still learning myself hope to go out hunting with some people with goss to see what there like , so if any 1 in south or west wales with goss this season wouldnt mind me tagging along with my fhh to see what there like get in touch

[SSL]

I think u need to stick with her for a bit longer and make sure she is fit and on weight

Agree 100%


stop letting her follow on and treat her exactly as u would if she were a gos fly her from the fist at suitable slips on Pheasant and duck and this will build confidence you will enjoy the season with her and if you are flying her regularly she will definately perform well enough to catch a pheasant that rises 10 yards in front of you.

Wouldnt do this. Its not a Gos its a Harris, fly it like one, enjoy it for what it is, pester as many Goshawkers as you can for advice or days out, then fly a Goshawk like a Goshawk.

Flying a Harris like a Gos will just lead to dissapointment?

[RedNoseK9]

I would never fly a Harris in this way from tree to tree following on i fly all my hawks from the fist as thats the real sport i dont think following on and tree to tree is proper falconry its a walk with a hawk that catches what it see's just my prefrence but i belive a better hawk is made from flying from the fist and there will be no disappointment if u select the correct slips in the correct terrain etc.


Wez

Agree 100%




Wouldnt do this. Its not a Gos its a Harris, fly it like one, enjoy it for what it is, pester as many Goshawkers as you can for advice or days out, then fly a Goshawk like a Goshawk.

Flying a Harris like a Gos will just lead to dissapointment?

[SSL]

I would never fly a Harris in this way from tree to tree following on i fly all my hawks from the fist as thats the real sport i dont think following on and tree to tree is proper falconry its a walk with a hawk that catches what it see's just my prefrence but i belive a better hawk is made from flying from the fist and there will be no disappointment if u select the correct slips in the correct terrain etc.

Again not going to argue with your first point Wez, but flying a Harris off the fist at Pheasant will just lead to dissapointment.

Muggings mugging, whether a 10ft off the fist bind or a 50 foot out the tree bind. Neither is flying a Harris like a Goshawk for me.

[RedNoseK9]

I cant disagree it is not like flying Gos except i ment the approach to flying the bird not the style a gos is in a different league to a harris but a good fit harris can perform well off the fist.


Again not going to argue with your first point Wez, but flying a Harris off the fist at Pheasant will just lead to dissapointment.

Muggings mugging, whether a 10ft off the fist bind or a 50 foot out the tree bind. Neither is flying a Harris like a Goshawk for me.

[SSL]

I cant disagree it is not like flying Gos except i ment the approach to flying the bird not the style a gos is in a different league to a harris but a good fit harris can perform well off the fist.

I know that mate, I can go and catch as many rabbits as I can carry with my female Harris. However if I was after pheasants I'd let her get in the air or perched up the flights are then a little further. Although this has no interest for me now.

[RedNoseK9]

I think we are both on the same page :yawinkle:

I know that mate, I can go and catch as many rabbits as I can carry with my female Harris. However if I was after pheasants I'd let her get in the air or perched up the flights are then a little further. Although this has no interest for me now.

[Dean]

If you are interested in killing many pheasant then you already own the bird for this!If however you are interested in persuit,both you and your bird and not to many head then a gos would suit you!A Harris worked through woodland following slightly in front of you in the canopies will give you a very heavy bag to carry!A robotic spaniel is a great advantage too!Harris`s can bind to flushed game in flight especially with position and height advantage,some flights can be exciting too,not many though i,m afraid!