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Matthew Patching
06-07-2008, 05:43 PM
Picked him up from Mick Kanes on thursday, came out of the pen at 895g, although he had food in his stomach, his crop was empty.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/Image068.jpg

Just arrived home!

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/Image066.jpg

Relaxing a bit about an hour later.

He worked the block out within an hour and a half, and spent the night on a cadge in the living room.

Friday he was blocked out all day, while he emptied his system out.

He fed off the fist last night at 795g, and stepped up tonight off the block at a little under this.

Should be jumping tomorrow, and I expect he will be free somtime around next weekend.

Then the fun starts as serious fitness training takes over in preperation for crow hawking!




IAmTheWeasel
06-07-2008, 06:28 PM
Nice looking bird!!!:supz:

Turumti
06-07-2008, 07:44 PM
He's a well built lad, what do you intend flying him at?

Matthew Patching
06-07-2008, 07:55 PM
He's a well built lad, what do you intend flying him at?

He will be flown at corvids. should be ready for entering in 4-5 weeks.:supz:

Nickic
06-07-2008, 08:23 PM
i'm no good at all this gramms stuff! pound shillings and pence please! lol. he looks like a good un! what wait are you expecting him to hunt at??? in imperial that is!

Sean D
06-07-2008, 08:27 PM
love the first pic, showing attitude

Mark Collins
06-07-2008, 08:34 PM
Nice looking gyr/peregrine, fine birds , very stylish, good luck with him mate,mark.

Ginty
06-07-2008, 11:59 PM
Good sized GP, good luck with him ! my mate had one last year that started at 685g it was a flying machine, ringing quarry into the heavens, unfortunately it got hit by a car on the motorway.

Maybe male gyr x peres are going to be the pursuit Kings and take over the top slot from female pere x sakers.


Picked him up from Mick Kanes on thursday, came out of the pen at 895g, although he had food in his stomach, his crop was empty.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/Image068.jpg

Just arrived home!

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/Image066.jpg

Relaxing a bit about an hour later.

He worked the block out within an hour and a half, and spent the night on a cadge in the living room.

Friday he was blocked out all day, while he emptied his system out.

He fed off the fist last night at 795g, and stepped up tonight off the block at a little under this.

Should be jumping tomorrow, and I expect he will be free somtime around next weekend.

Then the fun starts as serious fitness training takes over in preperation for crow hawking!

Fly
07-07-2008, 10:11 AM
nice looking falcon

Haskins
07-07-2008, 11:02 AM
keep the pic's coming, love looking bird

Matthew Patching
07-07-2008, 05:01 PM
i'm no good at all this gramms stuff! pound shillings and pence please! lol. he looks like a good un! what wait are you expecting him to hunt at??? in imperial that is!

For those that cant be bothered to come with the rest of us into the 21st century, he came out of the pen at 1lb 15 3/4 oz.

And up until today I was expecting him to fly between 1lb 10 oz and 1lb 11oz, but with the session I had during my dinner hour today, Iam questioning wether I need to take him much lower that 780g (1lb 11 1/2oz)

Matthew Patching
07-07-2008, 05:03 PM
Maybe male gyr x peres are going to be the pursuit Kings and take over the top slot from female pere x sakers.

I have a feeling that this will hold true for a couple of seasons, but once those that dont understand the work that has to be put into a male falcon (of any type) to get it consistently catching crows, they will get bored of there male gyrxpere chucking crows, and go back to the trusted female perexsaker!

Matthew Patching
07-07-2008, 05:05 PM
He came a leash length today at 780g, and is coming on nicely, deosnt give a hoot about the dogs, strangers, or cars, so progressing nicely.

I will take some more pics when it stops raining long enough for me to turn the camera on!

Matthew Patching
07-07-2008, 07:15 PM
OK just got a quick session in between downpours, moved to a different area, but decided I might be pushing my luck a bit getting the lure out, settled for a couple of quick 6 or 7 foot hops. Lure out tomorrow!

Yorky
07-07-2008, 08:49 PM
Nice one Matthew, mine isnt ready until this Thursday:( I had hoped to pick him up sooner

Gary F
07-07-2008, 08:53 PM
very nice matt,looking forward to reading more on your progress:supz:

Matthew Patching
08-07-2008, 05:27 PM
Took out this afternoon, easily coming 15 yards to the fist, weight will have to come down a tad more. Introduced to the lure, and stepped back up nicely, appetite is definatly lacking at the moment, but should improve as work load increases.

Here are a couple of pics that I took on the weathering lawn this morning!

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/Image071.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/Image073.jpg

Matthew Patching
09-07-2008, 05:39 PM
Bloody weather!!!!!!!!!!!

Took him out late afternoon, both of us got completely **** wet through, but he is now coming 20 yards to the fist, and has been introduced to the lure, (wether it sank in or not is another question, lol).

Appetite is still low, and he needs to loose a tad more weight, before his response is going to improve, Dont get me wrong he is pretty much instant, but he also spends just a fraction too long thinking about things, and checking the scenery out.

Matthew Patching
10-07-2008, 05:17 PM
Turned a corner tonight, coming very quickly to the fist over 100 yards, handled himself ok in the wind! 50 yards to the lure, instant response, a bit nervy when eating on the floor, but a slight (7g or so) loss will cure this. Should be free some time around saturday or sunday, then the fun realy begins!

Morganna
10-07-2008, 05:23 PM
Lovely Looking Bird Mathew And Coming On Very Fast It Seems Great To Hear And See Pics

Matthew Patching
10-07-2008, 05:31 PM
Lovely Looking Bird Mathew And Coming On Very Fast It Seems Great To Hear And See Pics

I hate trying to take pics when Im actualy training, and am currently single handed, but once he is free, and I can keep him in the air for more than 30 seconds at a time Ill get the video camera out, (if I can remember how to work it).

Ill be home for a fortnight from sunday, and the missus is good with a camera, so Ill have to drag her along!:yawinkle:

Matthew Patching
11-07-2008, 04:42 PM
A day earlier than predicted, flown free this afternoon, nothing sparkling just simple flights, and ended abruptly because of rain, pleased with him. Now the hard work and fun starts!

B C
11-07-2008, 04:53 PM
Lovely bird Matthew - I fly a Gyr x Pere tiercel as well (cracking birds!)

B C

Matthew Patching
21-07-2008, 08:51 PM
Well lots has happened since my last post.

Flown free, on the 12th July, has been progressing nicely over the following 9 days, Lots of free flying, so that he gains in confidence, and I have just started serious fitness work with the lure, we are up to about 26 passes in 4 bouts, and I would expect him to be ready for his first slips in about 2 weeks time, (although it can take 1-10 days to enter a young crow hawk).

I have added a few pics, and before anyone gets on there high horse I know he has mews jesses on, I appologise before hand, for this major oversight, But I dont feel the need to explain myself, so if you want to set up the usual witch hunt when these things appear be my guest!

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/IMG_0563.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/IMG_0595.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/IMG_0613.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/IMG_0614.jpg

Matthew Patching
21-07-2008, 08:52 PM
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/IMG_0615.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/IMG_0628.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/IMG_0633.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/IMG_0645.jpg

Matthew Patching
21-07-2008, 08:53 PM
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/IMG_0648.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/IMG_0657.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/IMG_0658.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/IMG_0670.jpg

Matthew Patching
21-07-2008, 08:54 PM
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/IMG_0671.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/IMG_0672.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/IMG_0673.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/IMG_0685.jpg

Matthew Patching
29-07-2008, 12:35 AM
Well things are progressing nicely, we moved onto dragged crows yesterday, and things went swimmingly.

Some birds can be scared of the crow carcass first off, but this boy didnt even bat an eyelid, and just pilled in feet first.

Fitness training is still progressing, and the hot weather isnt helping, but we are upto about 48 passes in 2 bouts, which I can live with, I am realy starting to like this falcon, his caractor has taken while to come throug, but its coming through in bucket loads now, I will expect him to be ready for entering somtime around the weekend, then the fun realy begins.

Dave G
29-07-2008, 09:56 AM
MATT dont you take the mews jesses out when flying free m8 ??

Matthew Patching
29-07-2008, 06:29 PM
MATT dont you take the mews jesses out when flying free m8 ??

Read the thread and the answer is there,:roll: left them next to the scales as I had been cleaning them the night before, not going to drive 30 miles back to the house to pick them up when I can twist the end of the jesses for the sake of 20 minutes flying, not with todays fuel prices anyway!

I am guessing that you came on here because I had a go at tigger, (if I am wrong I apologise) I cant believe people actualy encourage him!

Dave G
29-07-2008, 08:02 PM
Read the thread and the answer is there,:roll: left them next to the scales as I had been cleaning them the night before, not going to drive 30 miles back to the house to pick them up when I can twist the end of the jesses for the sake of 20 minutes flying, not with todays fuel prices anyway!

I am guessing that you came on here because I had a go at tigger, (if I am wrong I apologise) I cant believe people actualy encourage him!

MATT posted this reply well before you posted on tiggs thread i dont do tit for tat as im a bigger man than that m8 ? and i didnt read the part where you left the flying jesses at home ? i wouldnt risk such georgous falcons flying in mews jesses but thats just my oppinion there your birds and you know how the fly ? i do not encourage tigg to hunt things which are not in season my post was to say if accidents happen dont post it on the forum as its not good /dave

Matthew Patching
29-07-2008, 09:24 PM
MATT posted this reply well before you posted on tiggs thread i dont do tit for tat as im a bigger man than that m8 ? and i didnt read the part where you left the flying jesses at home ? i wouldnt risk such georgous falcons flying in mews jesses but thats just my oppinion there your birds and you know how the fly ? i do not encourage tigg to hunt things which are not in season my post was to say if accidents happen dont post it on the forum as its not good /dave

Fair enough mate, its a calculated risk, Im not usualy forgetful, but on this occassion i was.

Riddick
01-08-2008, 06:01 PM
did you get him entered matt? or is it this weekend?
regards
simon

Natch
01-08-2008, 06:10 PM
Well lots has happened since my last post.

Flown free, on the 12th July, has been progressing nicely over the following 9 days, Lots of free flying, so that he gains in confidence, and I have just started serious fitness work with the lure, we are up to about 26 passes in 4 bouts, and I would expect him to be ready for his first slips in about 2 weeks time, (although it can take 1-10 days to enter a young crow hawk).

I have added a few pics, and before anyone gets on there high horse I know he has mews jesses on, I appologise before hand, for this major oversight, But I dont feel the need to explain myself, so if you want to set up the usual witch hunt when these things appear be my guest!

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/IMG_0563.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/IMG_0595.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/IMG_0613.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/IMG_0614.jpglooks like its time 4 a new block

Riddick
01-08-2008, 06:18 PM
looks like its time 4 a new blockwhy's that then?

Raseni
01-08-2008, 06:23 PM
nice falcon!
and good pictures.


cheers
Rasmus

Matthew Patching
01-08-2008, 07:11 PM
why's that then?

Because Its got a bit of rot on the top, some people are sooooo picky.

Its been sat in the shed for about a year, and I fully expected it to be as I put it away last year, but Im ******ed if Im buying a new block, when I have 6 down at work, that are perfectly serviceable!

Natch hows your goldie? did you do anything with her?

Matthew Patching
01-08-2008, 07:14 PM
did you get him entered matt? or is it this weekend?
regards
simon

Took him out the other evening, showed him some crows, and it became obvious that his heads not quite there yet, another 4 or 5 days on the lure, and a few dragged crows, and we should be there. He' only been flying free for 3 weeks, even though he is fit, he needs to be mentaly ready aswell, otherwise it isnt worth owt.

Ned
02-08-2008, 03:08 PM
Hi Matt,
so is it fitness training from here on in,atb ned.
And getting its head tuned in.

Matthew Patching
02-08-2008, 03:43 PM
More or less mate, he's close but close aint good enough in my book, he will need to be perfect before I try him again, funnily enough my mates got his brother (pulled 4 days earlier) and he is saying exactly the same thing. He would have put money on him being ready early last week, and has gone back to the lure for another week, seems that these gyrxperes are willing to lie to you, and hope they get away with it.........:P

Here is a bit of crappy video footage of him slamming a dragged crow early last week.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/th_MPEG0072.jpg (http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/?action=view&current=MPEG0072.flv)

Matthew Patching
23-08-2008, 09:45 PM
Havnt updated for ages, he is now entered as of last monday when he caught a gull by accident.

He was a bit hit and miss tuesday and wednesday, but I expect this with a young falcon to be honest.

thursday, first slip at a large (70 plus) flock of crows and rooks, and he powered into them, picked a crow and took it 6 foot from the ground as it panicked and baled out.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/Image103.jpg

And I moved him to get him off the plough!

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/Image111.jpg

Friday evening, first slip, he left the fist, as he entered the feild the crows lifted and he climbed up with them, picking his target, he turned it back into the feild, put in 2 shallow stoops, threw up 35 foot above the crow, and stooped more or less verticaly at it binding 25 foot up in the air.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/2288a.jpg


And I had to move him again because of the horses in the feild.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/2288b.jpg

Matthew Patching
23-08-2008, 09:48 PM
Tonight Fist slip, taken over about 300 yards, the crows (15-20) rose as he made the 1/2 way mark, and he simply picked one, powered up into the flock and bound to it, goshawk style, not the best flight to watch, but just what he needs at this stage.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/Image123.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/Image124.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/Image125.jpg

3 crows in 3 slips.

Total for season.

One Check
3 crows.

Matthew Patching
13-09-2008, 02:22 AM
Again not updated for ages, now on 11 crows 2 gulls.

27th august
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/Image133.jpg
28th August
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/Image142.jpg
29th August
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/Image162.jpg
30th august
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/Image165.jpg

He had 5 days off due to me working away after this.

Matthew Patching
13-09-2008, 02:25 AM
6th September
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/Image173.jpg
8th september
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/Image183.jpg

10th september

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/Image187.jpg

11th september
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg271/mattpatch/Ginna/Image193.jpg

one slip today as he was up in weight after a good feed yesterday.

MCURZON
13-09-2008, 07:29 AM
Looks storming, good luck for the rest of the season.

Matt

Magee
13-09-2008, 09:58 AM
im not to up on these falcons but was just wondering do they stoop/go up high or is it more of a direct flight any info will be great these look lovely

Matthew Patching
13-09-2008, 10:06 AM
im not to up on these falcons but was just wondering do they stoop/go up high or is it more of a direct flight any info will be great these look lovely

Flights at crows should always be direct, thats why its called pursuit hawking, hood off and off the fist.

once they leave, you can get stoops, throwups, mid air stalls, high flights, low flights, flights to cover, flights that just go and go, short quick flights, twisty turny flights, caught in the air flights, caught on the ground after bailing out flights, the list geos on and on and on.

Without 1/2 decent land and lots of it, you will be wasteing your time though.

I currently hunt over about 35,000 acres, split between hertfordshire, and nottinghamshire, and about 2/3 of this is viable for flights at crow.