Gyr/Anatum vs Gyr/Peales

[Chamokane]

Anyone have enough experience with both Gyr/Anatum and Gyr/Peales hybrids to comment on the differences?

[Hatchero]

had a few of both. as you would expect the gyr/peales are bigger and may be a bit nasty. the anatum/gyrs are ok for size, the ones i have had were very sweet of disposition. they all are good game hawks capable of taking a wide range of north American game species.
Jim

[Kentish Falconry]

I have to agree with Jim on this one. The Gyr x Peales seem to inherit the bad manners of the Peales although once trained they make excellent hunting falcons if you don't mind getting bitten :lol:

[Bird_Dog]

I have to agree with Jim on this one. The Gyr x Peales seem to inherit the bad manners of the Peales although once trained they make excellent hunting falcons if you don't mind getting bitten :lol:

Here are a couple of photos comparing a gyr x peales and a gyr x anatum.
I'm holding the peales in back. I have to agree with the above statement based on these two individual tiercels. The anatum hybrid flew higher. It started out as a grouse hawk, where as, my bird started as duck hawk.

Bird_Dog

[Nickic]

what a great post! the kind of things we want to hear about!!! its ok saying ive got a g/p ! but what is it really, was it bred for size or temperment?? who knows ,we falconers just take it for granted that a g/p is a g/p, ive had three, all of them different, never knew if they were bred from scottish, peales ( i doubt it) or whatever!

[Hatchero]

i will try to post up some pics of my new anatum/white gyr tiercel. i just brought him home today, he is not penned yet but looks pretty good sized. i have a rule-- i don't weigh birds until they get to the hunting condition(its a distraction to weigh birds that are not in condition) so we will see in a few weeks just how big he is. seems to be the normal easy going anatum hybrid. this years team looks like an exciting line up.
Jim

[CanadaManada]

i have a rule-- i don't weigh birds until they get to the hunting condition(its a distraction to weigh birds that are not in condition) so we will see in a few weeks just how big he is.Jim

Jim, not enough people think like this. I am this way, and I learned it from the only guy I ever heard say it before you. Weights don't impress me in the least.

Justin

[Ben Wallace]

I would agree with what has been said above. However generalities aside,.....every falcon is an individual.

I have seen a placid female anatums take a chunk out of a friends nostril,.......still a hole/scar to this day!!!

Here are some pictures of white gyr/peregrines the one through the peephole is a very good flying gyr/anatums,....the other three are of two different gyr/peales. I will try and post a picture of two white gyr/peales immature 2009 male and female in the next day or two. Interesting thread.

Sincerely,
Ben Wallace

[Ben Wallace]

Hmmmm,
Could not upload the last two picture of a white gyr/peales on a duck? It said the picture exceeds the file limit? I thought I did resize it via my email platform? Does anyone know how to resize? Or I will try later.

Sincerely,
Ben Wallace

[Ben Wallace]

Sorry 2008 gyr/peregrine immatures not 2009?!?!?!:roll: But hey that breeding season is just around the corner,.......can't wait!!!

Sincerely,
Ben Wallace

[Rabadswompe]

Hmmmm,
Could not upload the last two picture of a white gyr/peales on a duck? It said the picture exceeds the file limit? I thought I did resize it via my email platform? Does anyone know how to resize? Or I will try later.

Sincerely,
Ben Wallace

upload on photobucket then copy-paste the img code here...it'll work.

Yann

[Ben Wallace]

upload on photobucket then copy-paste the img code here...it'll work.

Yann

Hi Yann computer codes and me don't mix,......maybe you could post them for me? I hope the knee is healing well from the wild boar battle wound.

Sincerely,
Ben Wallace

[Rabadswompe]

I wish it has been that glorious Ben:lol:

send them 2 me and I'll post em. Still got my e-mail?

[ArabianFalconer]

I'm faster hehe:box::box:

here you go Ben.. AND WITH PLEASURE that is one dream bird for me..

[Ben Offerein]

Hi. Does the gyrXpeales have the waterproofing of a pure peales?

[Hatchero]

Hi. Does the gyrXpeales have the waterproofing of a pure peales?

NOPE!

[Bird_Dog]

Download this image re-sizer

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

-- Bird_Dog

Hmmmm,
Could not upload the last two picture of a white gyr/peales on a duck? It said the picture exceeds the file limit? I thought I did resize it via my email platform? Does anyone know how to resize? Or I will try later.

Sincerely,
Ben Wallace

[Ben Offerein]

hello Ben wallace I see that your on the thread right now

[Chamokane]

Thank you, everyone who has posted a reply. The photos are really great.

It sounds like the birds, on average, turn out about like one would expect, but a theory is just a theory until you see the real thing. Thanks for giving me, and all of us, the benefit of your experience.

I've never flown a hybrid. My experience actually hunting with longwings is limited to a few Prairies and Peregrines. The birds I'm flying now are a seven year old female Anatum and a five year old male Anatum. They do pretty well but if anything ever happens to one of them, I'll have to break down and try a hybrid. Your input is a big help.

Here are some photos of a friend's female Gyr/Anatum on a duck flight. The photos were taken by Brian Sullivan. This bird is a niece to my female Anatum. She is a sweet bird, takes a high pitch, and has caught a lot of game, from Partridge to geese.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r50/chamokane/Amygettingair.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r50/chamokane/AmyinPursuit.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r50/chamokane/AmyandDuck.jpg

[Haskins]

some lovely birds, just wish i had the land to start gamehawking.

[Chamokane]

some lovely birds, just wish i had the land to start gamehawking.

I wish you did too. I've certainly enjoyed hunting with shortwings and broadwings but when I trapped my first Prairie Falcon I was hooked. I've even learned to love working with bird dogs, and back in the days when I ran hounds, I didn't even consider a dog to be a hunting dog unless it would bite a bear.:lol:

[Rabadswompe]

I'm faster hehe:box::box:


You got me this time Faris!!!! lol

Ben... one great bird this one!!!!!