CONSERVATIVE PLEDGE

[Sparrow Hawker]

I sent an email to my local Conservative MP asking him where hunting and countryside activities stand if the Conservative party become elected at the next election.

He said "The Conservative government would introduce a government bill in government time on a free vote to reverse the ban."

He also shared my concerns of if Labour became re-elected that there is a risk of Labour stopping activities such as falconry, ferreting, shooting etc.

Regards,

HH

[ColdZero]

If every falconer in the country went round knocking on doors carrying their bird, saying "vote conservative, or they will ban the 4000 year old art of falconry' etc. I am sure that would get a LOT of votes.....just a thought.

[Claire]

I've always vowed never to vote tory since my dad lost his business and house and basicly everything in the big housing crash (he was a builder). but theres no way on earth i will vote labour now (although I have in the past) so I'm quite confused now lol

[Hawkmaster]

Voting Tory may be the only way for us to stop this barrage of attacks agaist what we hold so dear.

[Saker-Clive]

I have just e-mailed Mr. Howard via their website, asking pretty much the same; I asked how they could ensure the safety of our way of life and not allow it to go like the Fox hunting ban..........................

I'll post up the responce as soon as I get a reply.

[Spudy]

i spoke to my local labor mp george moodie about this as he is very interested in the sport himself(he dosent own or fly just a fan)
and he was saying that he cant say exactly what will happen but if they put a bid in to ban the sport of falconry he would be 100% against it(this was while he was doing door to door canversing)....but at the moment labour are looking for quick fixes in the voteing ring.

[Mary Quite Contrary]

dont vote tory or for the cons.

[Malcolm Edgar]

Has any political party ever lived up to their election pledges???

[Hawkmaster]

This may be true but the ones thast are there now AND they are left there W~ILL hunt us down as they are already on our scent path!

[Sparrow Hawker]

Very true Hawkmaster, If Labour carry on - it could well be good bye to the countryside.

Labour seem to have slipped the restrictions on shooting in through the back door, with no prior consultaion as far as I know. So who knows what else they have planned.....

Regards,

HH

[BlackHawke]

thing is no matter what party u vote for they will always put up taxes. not live upto their promises and generally r only out for themselves. but i cannot remember the tories when they were in power taking our own rights of choice away from us. because of labour this country has become a nanny state and has bowed down to what the states want us to do! sorry all u americans out there i'm not slagging off the american people just tony blair for following blindly!

i have only voted once in the past 15 years. when i was 18 n that was for labour. but just on this one issue, hunting, i will definatly b voting for the tories

[Sparrow Hawker]

I saw this on one of those combat zone airsoft target ranges today at a country show :lol:

[BlackHawke]

conservatives have definatley now got my vote. i heard on the news today that if they come into power they r going to clamp down on illegal travellers sites. result! its about time they were treated like everyone else is! as we all know travellers r a law unto themselves. the police r even scared to get invlolved with travellers

[Jester]

The thing i have noticed with the tories lately is how quickly they will jump on the bandwagon and tell us all how they will change anything that is getting slated by the press
things like speed cameras, crime and now they are on to travellers.

as soon as the public raise an outcry about anything the tories jump in and say "we will change/stop/fix that if we are elected"

hmmmmmmmmmmm do any of you serously believe they will do anything differently or carry out even as much as half of what they promise if they are elected?????????

[Sparrow Hawker]

Or is it finally a party is prepared to listen to us all.

Regards,

HH

[Lurker]

I've always vowed never to vote tory since my dad lost his business and house and basicly everything in the big housing crash (he was a builder). but theres no way on earth i will vote labour now (although I have in the past) so I'm quite confused now lol

i feel for your dad claire, but what about the labour cock up over the foot and mouth, mamy peeps were in the same position with business's which alot of peeps also lost there houses ect, just ask yourself this question, what has labour actualy done for you ?

[Claire]

as i said though i'm not gonna vote labour which only leaves the torys or lib dems, and to be honest my vote is probably not gonna make much difference since i live in a labour stonghold, labour have done something for me though their new deal for lone parents paid for me to go to college and do courses to become a childminder, although i gave up childminding in favour of volenteering at my local falconry centre, so im now poorer but happier lol

[BlackHawke]

thing is i agree with jester. every party thats been in power have promised change but normally they are nothing but empty promises. but isn't it about time we gave the conservatives a chance to ****** up the country instead of labour? what good has labour done for the country since theyv'e been in power?? got us into a war we didn't really need to have. ****** up the NHS, Education and the country in general!!

[Superfly]

Let's face it, the Tories are gonna say whatever they think people want to hear in the hope of getting elected. Jumping on every media outburst, the problem there is, if a "good" tabloid story comes up that is anti-falconry, you can bet they would suddenly "re-assure" the public that they would fight "these sort of people".
I've suffered personally from the result of Tory agendas, though right now, we havea problem. No doubt, Labour is doing some serious harm, but I doubt the Tories could be remotely trusted and frankly, Lib-Dems are a joke. We need a serious opposition party right now and we simply don't have one.
I know one thing for sure, every Tory election has seen me worse off, but as a working married man with a mortgage and no kids, I ain't any better off. Seems just the act of dropping a sprog these days is like winning the lottery "oh - here ya go - have some cash for assisting in the population explosion" ;)

Remember, these *are* politicians we are talking about, not the most trustworthy of folks. After all, they say what they need to to get in power, it's all about what is in *their* vested interests, not ours.
Right now - it's not so much about which party I trust the most, but which I trust the least, hehe, wot a mess eh?

[Lasher]

Never a truer word spoken! I just had a cursory look at the Lib Dems website as, looking back through this post, the onlu options seem to be Labour or Tory. Right enough, the Lib Dems don't even appear to have an opinion on Hunting, be it with dogs, Falcons or anything else. They say (simply) that they will throw it back at the lawlords to revote.

Yes, every politician I have ever encountered has yet to win my respect or my trust. Yes, I do believe that right now, Labour is a better option than Tory. No, I do not believe that ANYTHING the Tories are saying can be relied upon. I have met Mr. Howard on several occasions and can sum him up in a single word.

However, without straying from the point, what hope is there for our country when a paedophile can be incarcerated for abusing a child and the state will feed and support that paedophile BETTER than they will feed and support that child. :evil:

I think it highly unlikely that anything will change radically in my lifetime. But, those of you that have them, take a look at your children and think about what we will be leaving behind for them. :(

"The desire to be a politician should prevent anybody from ever actually becoming one!"

[Jester]

but as a working married man with a mortgage and no kids, I ain't any better off. Seems just the act of dropping a sprog these days is like winning the lottery "oh - here ya go - have some cash for assisting in the population explosion"

how much does it cost to educate and give medical treatment for a child???

i have no kids so cost the state nothing in educating or treating so why the hell do i pay more taxes than someone with kids :rock: :tfrag:

[Superfly]

i have no kids so cost the state nothing in educating or treating so why the hell do i pay more taxes than someone with kids

Just so, just so :evil: Think of all the cash I'm saving the government, you think that would be worth some tax incentive, but no, the bigger the drain, the more money you get.
I know of people who "couldn't afford to work", they get so much money in benefits, there reallyis no incentive.
Me, leave the house at 7:40 each day, get home at around 17:30 each night, with my taxes and the amount I have to spend on fuel just getting to work (120/mth +), I'm feeding some no-good S.O.B's little brats for my sins.

Ahh, yes, a caring sharing state .. a sore point? You betcha! :twisted:

[Claire]

well im a single parent on benefits not intentianally believe me, although i only have 1 and am spending the time where i cant work getting a degree so i can get a decent job when i can work and will be contributing to the system again, the worst ones are the one who go on having more and more kids when they cant pay for the ones they have

[Superfly]

Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I was aiming my lambast at those people, ya know, the ones with a new car, holidays, etc..etc.. yet do this all on benefits.

Kinda like the pic in the paper of the "traveller" with the £110,000 Mercedes! ugh..

[Claire]

i know what you mean but i dont know how they do it (legally that is) I just about manage to run a car but its 10 ten year old piece of sh** lol but I cant afford a bird of my own, thats why I help at my local falconry centre, well at leat when i finally manage to get a bird I'll have lots of expirience :P

[Superfly]

i know what you mean but i dont know how they do it (legally that is) I just about manage to run a car but its 10 ten year old

Heh, I work for a living and have only ever had 1 car *under* 10 years old. ;)
Once had a 17 year old Mk1 escort, paid 80 quid for it, ran it for 4 years with no breakdowns :)

I help at my local falconry centre, well at leat when i finally manage to get a bird I'll have lots of expirience

A great way to do it, nothing at all beats hands-on time with the birds. I'm off to "work" this weekend, get to see my baby, see how she's doing, spend some time helping in her training. Just hope the weathers half-decent so we can get some bodies through the gates. :)