Is this a lanner?

[Moritz]

Hi Guys,
I found this pic on the net it. They say it is lanner.

[Adam Barrett]

i would say possiably a gyrXsaker (pale phase)
but then again im not very good with the long wings :oops:

[Moritz]

the link to the page is:
http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/classification/Falconiformes.html

[GriffMJ]

Hi Moritz


Subspecies : Five races of Lanner Falcon are recognised and they are : -

1. From Italy to Turkey the race present is Feldeggii, the darkest and most heavily marked race
2. Erlangeri from North-West Africa is paler with less Rufus crown
3. Tanypterus from North-East Africa and the Middle East is similar but slightly larger. F. b.
4. Abyssinicus occurs from Senegal to Ethiopia
5. Biarmicus in eastern and southern Africa

Looks like the ERLANGERI subspecies :)

[Moritz]

aha,
thx!
I think this suspecies looks very nice. does anybody have them in the Uk? Is this the same like the marocan lanner?

thx
Moritz

[Shaun Byrne]

Looks like my mates Gyr/Lanner

[Finnish]

It defiantly looks like there is some Gry in there.

[Hawkmaster]

Remember guys not everyone knows birds of prey that well and once a chap has a picture he gets confused or remebers a name or the wires just get crossed somewhere.

THAT IS NOT A LANNER!

[GriffMJ]

Any ideas what it is Paul?

It does have a huge head....on refelction.

[Hawkmaster]

Tough one and too easy to be wrong really, but of course it does look like there is Gyr in there, so it may be Gyr/Lanner, but look at the size of those toes???

[GriffMJ]

its very thick set on top really....and the feet look Pere to me....but what looks like pale Lanner Colouring.....wish we could get a bigger pic of it.

[GriffMJ]

here you go....found it:

I would still go with my first hunch......this is a sub species and not Biarmicus.

Identification
Falco biarmicus (lanner falcon)
Date Taken
September 2001
Location
The Falconry Center, Tottenham, Ontario
Caption
Lanner Falcon, captive
http://www.m-jhoods.co.uk/images/bigLanner.jpg

[Goldie]

So it is a lanner :? :lol:

[Hawkmaster]

Still very light coloured on the back though?

[Gozzhawk]

looks like a lanner to me , absolutely stunning , maybe get a lanneret this year , used to fly a lanner that gave me the willies she would dot out then come back down playing around with th wild peres

[Jonny]

Definately got some lanner in it. But i would guess lanner/pergrine hybrid judging from the wings. They look very perigrine.
Jonny.

[Shaun Byrne]

I STILL think it is a Gyr/Lanner.

[Athene]

My guess is Falco biarmicus erlangeri. It is small (too small to have gyr in it), pale and the forehead isn't black, as it is in F. b. feldegii, but white-reddish as it is in the north african subspecies.