Kite Winder

[Tezz]

Thought I would show some pictures of my kite winder.
Just wondering what other people use to get their kite down.

Tez

[Graham Irving]

i have a boring old hand winder job, takes ages to pull in 800 odd feet!
I like the look of your set up, can you describe the construction/parts and cost to make it please?

Graham

[Pearl]

looks the biz mate :supz:

[Gozzhawk]

how do you fix it to the ground?

[Tezz]

i have a boring old hand winder job, takes ages to pull in 800 odd feet!
I like the look of your set up, can you describe the construction/parts and cost to make it please?

Graham

Hi Graham,
Sorry mate no can do;)
I am thinking of making some more to sell after friends who have saw it in action where well impressed.
You can pm me if your interested and I will sort a price.

Tez

[Tezz]

looks the biz mate :supz:

Thanks mate it does the job.

Tez

[Falconry Equipment International]

Well here is my design that I have used and sold for the last 15 years .
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg243/TZ350/Falconry/wnch1.gif
I am developing different incarnations of this , including a trailer with turntable, gas powered and electric motor powered versions as well as this which quite clearly uses a cordless battery, this pic was I beleive takn 11 or 12 years ago for a magazine article. hth

[Tezz]

Well here is my design that I have used and sold for the last 15 years .
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg243/TZ350/Falconry/wnch1.gif
I am developing different incarnations of this , including a trailer with turntable, gas powered and electric motor powered versions as well as this which quite clearly uses a cordless battery, this pic was I beleive takn 11 or 12 years ago for a magazine article. hth

Looks good Jay,
What was the battery power and how did it handle bringing the kite down in a stiff breeze?

Tez

[Dean]

Thought I would show some pictures of my kite winder.
Just wondering what other people use to get their kite down.

Tez
Whats that,an alternator??????:lol:

[Falconry Equipment International]

Looks good Jay,
What was the battery power and how did it handle bringing the kite down in a stiff breeze?

Tez

Tez
weel as you may be able to see that was a bosch 12 V which was hardly man enough for the job. with a dewalt 18V with 2ah batteries I could in a 15 ~ 20 mile an hour wind , I coulod fly upt to five hawks, and wind down the kite from about 1500' of line ( I reckon even when the kite looks almosts vertical, with the wind veriant and drop of the line to be about 1,000') inabout a couple of minutes on two batteries. you get up too 25 ~ 30 mph ( ground wind speed that is) and you'd get through at least one battery per 'wind down' if that makes sense

[CanadaManada]

i have a boring old hand winder job, takes ages to pull in 800 odd feet!
I like the look of your set up, can you describe the construction/parts and cost to make it please?

Graham

Graham,
That looks like a motorcycle starter with 2 6 volt motorcycle batteries.
Should be quite simple to make, actually. You could then post pictures of your "orignal" secret design and tell people you're selling them. ;-)

Justin

[Stuart]

i just use a cordless drill, u just have to make a spool to acomodate the line stu

[Falconry Equipment International]

Stuart , do you know a bloke called John mease near you, he had a similar set up to tezz that I saw about 5 years ago have to say I was impressed with it apart from lack of conmtrol and it was either winchinhing or it wasnt there was not variablke control on it. hth

[Peri]

graham you could make that quite easy mate,get yourself a window wiper motor and fit it to a wheel and away you go mate.easy.

[SkyChecker]

Hello everybody,

this is the spool I use. I posted the pics already some month ago, but maybe it also of some interest here.
I am using this design since about six years now and the advantages are: simply, light weight, ballbeared, fixable to bumper of vehicle or anywhere else, line will not come off the spool when drilling in. It is contructed for the use of an electric drill.

Matt

[Tezz]

Graham,
That looks like a motorcycle starter with 2 6 volt motorcycle batteries.
Should be quite simple to make, actually. You could then post pictures of your "orignal" secret design and tell people you're selling them. ;-)

Justin

Very good Justin, your right.
Not so quite simple to make though;-)


Graham if you have any problems making it feel free to pm me.

Tez

[Tezz]

Hello everybody,

this is the spool I use. I posted the pics already some month ago, but maybe it also of some interest here.
I am using this design since about six years now and the advantages are: simply, light weight, ballbeared, fixable to bumper of vehicle or anywhere else, line will not come off the spool when drilling in. It is contructed for the use of an electric drill.

Matt

Very good design, what voltage is your drill?

Tez

[Tezz]

Tez
weel as you may be able to see that was a bosch 12 V which was hardly man enough for the job. with a dewalt 18V with 2ah batteries I could in a 15 ~ 20 mile an hour wind , I coulod fly upt to five hawks, and wind down the kite from about 1500' of line ( I reckon even when the kite looks almosts vertical, with the wind veriant and drop of the line to be about 1,000') inabout a couple of minutes on two batteries. you get up too 25 ~ 30 mph ( ground wind speed that is) and you'd get through at least one battery per 'wind down' if that makes sense

Hi Jay,
Had thought of using a drill myself but I just didn't think it would have the power. There is one advantage with the method I am using although I must say that I havn't tried it yet, is that the kite can be towed to get airborn on on some of those calmer days. We are doing three tiercels at the moment
so battery life is crucial.

Tez

[SkyChecker]

Very good design, what voltage is your drill?

Tez

I am using a 9,6 Volt Makita drill. Even in strong winds I didn´t had problems with it (spool holds 600mtr = 1800ft of line). Although in stronger winds and full line lenght I do need a second accumulator.

Regards
Matt

[CloakDaggerTiercel]

I use a Rutland Electric Fencing Reel and post.
Google that and it will come up with their website.
I just reel it in by hand as it only takes five mins or so to wind in a lot of line.
But they do sell adaptors that allow you to drill it all back in.
Nick

[Tezz]

I use a Rutland Electric Fencing Reel and post.
Google that and it will come up with their website.
I just reel it in by hand as it only takes five mins or so to wind in a lot of line.
But they do sell adaptors that allow you to drill it all back in.
Nick

Hi Nick,
I did consider using one of those but thought it still to be a bit of a ball ache
bringing down the kite in gusty winds especially doing more than one bird, although you would end up having one arm like popeye:lol:.
But seriously, I did used to use reinforced hose reel which would be similar.

All the best with Orca she's a stunner.

Tez

[Falconry Equipment International]

Hi Jay,
Had thought of using a drill myself but I just didn't think it would have the power. There is one advantage with the method I am using although I must say that I havn't tried it yet, is that the kite can be towed to get airborn on on some of those calmer days. We are doing three tiercels at the moment
so battery life is crucial.

Tez
beleive me the years i have been doing this ( did it for a couple of yours before even selling and producing kite equipment) I have encountere almost ane problem you can imagine and some days it is best eithe not to getm the kite out or if you are encountering problems ( too little/ too high winds) if you continue the problems will only increase. if there is too little wind ( ( have kmanaged to get akite and lure and very light line to 1000 ' with no wind at all, , only to get the hawk out of the car and by the time the hawk is going up the kite has stall tio such an extent that the lure has come down to 200' or worse! what you have to be aware is two things when flying in very light winds,. 1st is as you start winding the kite, yes initially it goes up, but it is not like having a wind as all the time you are using the winch you are shortening the line , unless you are like and find a breeeze almost as soon as you stop winding the kite will stall. 2nd you have to walk the line out and then you have issues with abrasion as the line is being dragged along ground hope this makes sense, anything that can be done your way can be done this way ( I have tried both with and without drills , hand winches etc etc and this is the tried and tested method that I prefer) I am not criticising BTW just saying what has worked for me. This year I am in a new country new environment with different wind conditions so I expect to encounter new problems. HTH

[Tezz]

beleive me the years i have been doing this ( did it for a couple of yours before even selling and producing kite equipment) I have encountere almost ane problem you can imagine and some days it is best eithe not to getm the kite out or if you are encountering problems ( too little/ too high winds) if you continue the problems will only increase. if there is too little wind ( ( have kmanaged to get akite and lure and very light line to 1000 ' with no wind at all, , only to get the hawk out of the car and by the time the hawk is going up the kite has stall tio such an extent that the lure has come down to 200' or worse! what you have to be aware is two things when flying in very light winds,. 1st is as you start winding the kite, yes initially it goes up, but it is not like having a wind as all the time you are using the winch you are shortening the line , unless you are like and find a breeeze almost as soon as you stop winding the kite will stall. 2nd you have to walk the line out and then you have issues with abrasion as the line is being dragged along ground hope this makes sense, anything that can be done your way can be done this way ( I have tried both with and without drills , hand winches etc etc and this is the tried and tested method that I prefer) I am not criticising BTW just saying what has worked for me. This year I am in a new country new environment with different wind conditions so I expect to encounter new problems. HTH

Jay
Yes it all makes sense, I have experienced most of what you stated.what I have experienced some times not always, is that if you can get your kite up to say 100 ft, sometimes what was calm at ground level can be a bit stronger the higher you go not always but enough to keep the kite up. I only
use one type of kite at the moment so you to do what you can when in the field.

Tez

[Saker Mad]

some of these designs are ingenious and here i am stuggling with a hose reel and being totally knackerd once i get the 1000 foot in well done folks :supz:

ian

[Grovsey]

some of these designs are ingenious and here i am stuggling with a hose reel and being totally knackerd once i get the 1000 foot in well done folks :supz:

ian
same here m8 its hard work at the best of times

[Ginty]

i use a converted boat winch, powered through the cigarette lighter in the car. It holds 1750 feet of 90lb dacron braid and whizzes it in, in no time.

the main benefit is that, you can kite in very enclosed fields because you do not have to walk down the kite. The winder pulls the kite down vertically to the car.

[Nickic]

that looks the bis! do you have to modify the gearing! and how much are they?

[Tezz]

that looks the bis! do you have to modify the gearing! and how much are they?

You don't have to modify the gearing it is the shaft the that has to be fabricated. I haven't got a price at the moment just testing the waters.

Tezz

[Ginty]

a photo of mine, a little dirty, its been in the shed since last season.

The knob on the left side can be used to adjust the drag and also lock out the spool.

[Ginty]

This plate is permanently attached to the tail gate so the winch can be simply slotted onto the 3 bolts, in seconds.

[Ginty]

In situ:

it works a treat, its a shame kiting birds doesn't :lol:

[Ginty]

Kite winders are available from Paul Fox 07727 170558 for £120.



In situ:

it works a treat, its a shame kiting birds doesn't :lol:

[GyrXPeales]

In situ:

it works a treat, its a shame kiting birds doesn't :lol:

Let's just say kiting doesn't work for you.
Dave Cherry came up with a system for ballooning falcons some years ago that we have adapted to kiting. Sorry to burst your bubble but simply put it works. It takes a bit of work and discipline, but that's what the first season is all about anyway, reinforcing the basics, pitch and position. I've seen and had it work time and time again. Traditional methods are great too, but kiting does work if done correctly.
I've gone low tech in the past few years as many of my closest kiting fields are now walk on only. This kit will fit in your bag and holds 3000'+ of 100# test spectra. You can buy it from NorthWoods or cheaply and easily make your own. Add an 18v DeWalt and you can pull your kite down in any wind. A dozen or so wraps around the top of a fence post or your bumper hitch and it's secure. Like I said low tech but it works a treat and is easy to pack in and out.
ATB,
Jeff
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/gyrxpeales/Kitereel001.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/gyrxpeales/Kitereel003.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/gyrxpeales/Kitereel005.jpg

[Dean]

Let's just say kiting doesn't work for you.
Dave Cherry came up with a system for ballooning falcons some years ago that we have adapted to kiting. Sorry to burst your bubble but simply put it works. It takes a bit of work and discipline, but that's what the first season is all about anyway, reinforcing the basics, pitch and position. I've seen and had it work time and time again. Traditional methods are great too, but kiting does work if done correctly.
I've gone low tech in the past few years as many of my closest kiting fields are now walk on only. This kit will fit in your bag and holds 3000'+ of 100# test spectra. You can buy it from NorthWoods or cheaply and easily make your own. Add an 18v DeWalt and you can pull your kite down in any wind. A dozen or so wraps around the top of a fence post or your bumper hitch and it's secure. Like I said low tech but it works a treat and is easy to pack in and out.
ATB,
Jeff
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/gyrxpeales/Kitereel001.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/gyrxpeales/Kitereel003.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/gyrxpeales/Kitereel005.jpg
I think the only people that can certainly say one method is better than the other are the falconers that have succeeded with both!!I have opened my mouth probably prematurely simply because traditional training gets what I want from the bird,and is basically common sense!!When I do eventually see several kite trained birds that outshine,out pitch and out position any of mine I may give it a go!!Tez,sivo says your gonna show me this season!!!:wink:A kiting I will go next!!!!!!

[Dean]

With all this talk of height I think my falcons are doing way above 500ft average!I have loads of footage over the last decade,just been watching with a coupla lads,the silhoutte of the falcons cannot be made,not even with zoom!!!Must just be cheap camaras!!!I thought a falcon would be almost impossible to see at 1000ft on a clear day!!!All I know is,my falcons climb,how high now I am not sure!!:confused:

[GyrXPeales]

I think the only people that can certainly say one method is better than the other are the falconers that have succeeded with both!!I have opened my mouth probably prematurely simply because traditional training gets what I want from the bird,and is basically common sense!!When I do eventually see several kite trained birds that outshine,out pitch and out position any of mine I may give it a go!!Tez,sivo says your gonna show me this season!!!:wink:A kiting I will go next!!!!!!

Dean I really don't see the point in kiting in the kind of venues you fly. If I flew the kind of country you fly it would be traditional all the way. I guess we're blessed in a way where I am on the central flyway. Easy access to very open country and lots of small divers to get a young bird going. I've trained traditional, with pigeons, and with the kite, and I have to say for the kind of country we have, kiting works best for me. Others will disagree and that's as it should be.
You have to remember we can and do use bagged game over here, something you might find distasteful. But serving a few unhindered Wood Ducks to get them to turn down and give them confidence, followed by small unmixed flocks of divers or Gadwall on small ponds to get them going on wild quarry, followed by mixed flocks of divers and Mallard on small ponds to give them a choice, is an unbeatable way to make a duck hawk imo. High pitches and wide swings are what I need around here so I train accordingly that's all.
My best regards,
Jeff

[CloakDaggerTiercel]

Dean I really don't see the point in kiting in the kind of venues you fly. If I flew the kind of country you fly it would be traditional all the way. I guess we're blessed in a way where I am on the central flyway. Easy access to very open country and lots of small divers to get a young bird going. I've trained traditional, with pigeons, and with the kite, and I have to say for the kind of country we have, kiting works best for me. Others will disagree and that's as it should be.
You have to remember we can and do use bagged game over here, something you might find distasteful. But serving a few unhindered Wood Ducks to get them to turn down and give them confidence, followed by small unmixed flocks of divers or Gadwall on small ponds to get them going on wild quarry, followed by mixed flocks of divers and Mallard on small ponds to give them a choice, is an unbeatable way to make a duck hawk imo. High pitches and wide swings are what I need around here so I train accordingly that's all.
My best regards,
Jeff


Hi Jeff,
Good post.
Ive trained hawks traditonally and on the kite. If I was only allowed to use traditional methods Id be quite happy but few weeks of slog and boredom with the kite is well worth the trouble in my opinion in terms of the finished product.
Experience of any method or quarry is essential before a rounded opinion can be gained.
It would be handy to have more Gadwall over here in the UK for getting falcons going well on duck. They sound like a great quarry.
Nick

[Cassini]

Kite winders are available from Paul Fox 07727 170558 for £120.

Is this already modified? and with 12 v adapter.

This would make it less of a ball ache

[LanczSpringer]

Kite winders are available from Paul Fox 07727 170558 for £120.

Looks very much like this one for ~£40 from ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12V-HEAVY-DUTY-ELECTRIC-WINCH-CARAVAN-BOAT-TRAILER-E22_W0QQitemZ290251914823QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item2 90251914823&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A15&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14.l1318

I might get one and give it a go, it's about the same price as my galagher electric fence reel :roll:

Ant

[Ginty]

yep heavily modified with a fabricated steel spool and altered gearing and electronics and comes with a lead to connect to a car battery, i plug mine into the cigarette lighter.

it makes the job really easy !

and i think Paul Fox lives down your neck of the woods.

Could you give me your critique on a painting i knocked together last nite when i came in from the pub, please :lol: ?


Steve








Is this already modified? and with 12 v adapter.

This would make it less of a ball ache

[Ginty]

Good idea ! buy it !




Looks very much like this one for ~£40 from ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12V-HEAVY-DUTY-ELECTRIC-WINCH-CARAVAN-BOAT-TRAILER-E22_W0QQitemZ290251914823QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item2 90251914823&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A15&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14.l1318

I might get one and give it a go, it's about the same price as my galagher electric fence reel :roll:

Ant

[Cassini]

yep heavily modified with a fabricated steel spool and altered gearing and electronics and comes with a lead to connect to a car battery, i plug mine into the cigarette lighter.

it makes the job really easy !

and i think Paul Fox lives down your neck of the woods.

Could you give me your critique on a painting i knocked together last nite when i came in from the pub, please :lol: ?


Steve

Thanks for the info on the winder. As far as the painting goes, I'd stay away from
painting after being at the pub!

[Ginty]

It does work for me, i'm only kidding. I have great fun kiting birds. ;)


Let's just say kiting doesn't work for you.
Dave Cherry came up with a system for ballooning falcons some years ago that we have adapted to kiting. Sorry to burst your bubble but simply put it works. It takes a bit of work and discipline, but that's what the first season is all about anyway, reinforcing the basics, pitch and position. I've seen and had it work time and time again. Traditional methods are great too, but kiting does work if done correctly.
I've gone low tech in the past few years as many of my closest kiting fields are now walk on only. This kit will fit in your bag and holds 3000'+ of 100# test spectra. You can buy it from NorthWoods or cheaply and easily make your own. Add an 18v DeWalt and you can pull your kite down in any wind. A dozen or so wraps around the top of a fence post or your bumper hitch and it's secure. Like I said low tech but it works a treat and is easy to pack in and out.
ATB,
Jeff
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/gyrxpeales/Kitereel001.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/gyrxpeales/Kitereel003.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/gyrxpeales/Kitereel005.jpg

[SharpTail]

Any one using parachutes? I am looking for ideas on release systems. Pictures would be great!!! Please!!!

[Ginty]

Check this out::lol:


Any one using parachutes? I am looking for ideas on release systems. Pictures would be great!!! Please!!!

[Bird_Dog]

I use a parachute. I made an envelop (sleeve) out of 3mil plastic to hold the chute (approx 10 in by 2 1/2 in) and a large paper clip as the release mechanism (if you can call it a mechanism). The sleeve has a fishing swivel at the top and is attached to a loop tied in the kite line. The bait, in my case a lure, is tied to a 3ft line that is attached to the parachute. Being made of thin plastic it's very light weight compared to the paper towel roll described in the Hawk Chalk article on kite training with a parachute.

-- Bird_Dog

[SharpTail]

Check this out::lol:

Ah...Do you make television ads for CHEVRON ?

[SharpTail]

THANKS, Birddog!!

[Grovsey]

where is a good place to get a spool from for using on a drill
ian

[Falconry Equipment International]

Me Ian!:wink::rolleyes::lol:

[Hawking]

Any one tried a tire and peddle set up from a old bike? Chop er up make a good base.....I expect it would wind it in fast...not sure about how much line you could get on the rim......could build up the sides??????

[PLBS1234]

I made my kite reel from plans that were in Hawkchalk a number of years ago. For the reel it uses a wheel from a wheel barrow. Just remove the tire and you have a spool with bearings already installed. A pulley is welded to one side and I belt drive it. I use a drill to pull the kite down.

I got tired of always running out of battery power when flying the kite. I got a 12 volt battery powered drill. I disassembled the battery pack and wired in a cord to the terminals inside the now empty battery case. On the other end of the cord I wired a plug for the trailer hitch on my truck. I wired the drill into the parking light circuit.

Now when I want to bring the kite down, I turn on my parking lights, plug the cord into the trailer hitch plug socket and wind the kite down. I've been using this for a while and it works really well.

Paul

[Falcons7]

Hi ,
here is my new winch ,my old one (2 years old) is every bit as good but this one goes from very slow to VERY FAST by using the twist grip ,same as a motorbike.
The old one is direct to the landrover battery 12v where this one is 24v rechargable via 2 batteries .I prefer the 12v as Im twice as lax as the most laxidazical person anyone could meet so I KNOW that Im gona go kiting with flat batteries so need to come up with a way of getting around this ,no power with a kite 2000ft up doesnt tickel me.
My old one will get the kite down from about that in about 90seconds ,possably a little longer but if so only just and no ,it isnt to fast ,havnt had any problems ever in all kiting conditions. The mark 2 will do it in the same time or I can creep it down for a nice landing for the falcon at my feet.
Both are portable but wouldnt want to carry them to far as they are heavy enough not to get dragged anywhere.Before anyone askes ,none are for sale incase this sounds like a sales pitch ,I can see myself keeping the new one as a spare the first time the batteries go flat during training .
The red one is the old one ,sorry about the picture ,cant be botherd to go out to the landhog in this wind to seek it for better picts :yawinkle:
jeff

[Judd Casper]

They look the biz Jeff i can see where Mr woods got the idea from now....shame you not selling one i would have been interested in your spare for me next falcon:yawinkle:



Sam

[nesher]

this isnt so hard to make ....... you could stick a chainsaw motor on it and that would do the job

what kind of string do you use?

[FalconGriff]

Mine is a simple hand held winder with the center shaft extended so that it fits an 18 volt power drill. Winds in 1000 feet in no time!!

[Falcons7]

Sam ,Ill lend you one when the time comes .Jimmys had the red one away so he could copy it .
JEFF

They look the biz Jeff i can see where Mr woods got the idea from now....shame you not selling one i would have been interested in your spare for me next falcon:yawinkle:



Sam

[Falcons7]

I use dynema ,its lighter than dacron and more stream lined
jeff


this isnt so hard to make ....... you could stick a chainsaw motor on it and that would do the job

what kind of string do you use?

[BlackFalcon]

I use dynema ,its lighter than dacron and more stream lined
jeff

Hey Jeff, have you heard who you are sharing a room with at George's meet?
Me and Bryn! you lucky chap. :lol: would have told you this by phone but your mobile is never switched on.

Chris

[Falcons7]

Hello Dear ,me charger for me mobile is still at Inverness:rolleyes: . What have I done to diserve that and am not going to be the Jam in a chris and bryn sandwich !!
Am waiting for Si and Rolfie Watts landing ,should be here any moment. Av been struggling to get flown with work ,only flown twice in the last fortnight and it shows.Gona get the old girl out tonight and intend just to kite them 3 times a week then graft them at weekend ,its the only way I can get flown at the moment.Lost me clip for the kite lure :roll: ,.
jeff

Hey Jeff, have you heard who you are sharing a room with at George's meet?
Me and Bryn! you lucky chap. :lol: would have told you this by phone but your mobile is never switched on.

Chris

[SugezWolf]

[QUOTE=Judd Casper;920533]They look the biz Jeff i can see where Mr woods got the idea from now....shame you not selling one i would have been interested in your spare for me next falcon



Bloody Hell Sam! Is that tongue in cheek or are you seriously considering using a kite?

Gerry x

[Falcons7]

Its no joke Gerry , wor sam's embracing progress although seeing some good kite trained falcons fly was a help ,I think Sam had only seen junk fly untill the last few years .Si Hyam was here today with his eyas falcon ,she was a little over weight and also a little over 800ft ,she clipped a mallard but not good enough but greef she can fly !
jeff



[quote=Judd Casper;920533]They look the biz Jeff i can see where Mr woods got the idea from now....shame you not selling one i would have been interested in your spare for me next falcon



Bloody Hell Sam! Is that tongue in cheek or are you seriously considering using a kite?

Gerry x

[Matt King]

[quote=Falcons7;922118]Its no joke Gerry , wor sam's embracing progress although seeing some good kite trained falcons fly was a help ,I think Sam had only seen junk fly untill the last few years .Si Hyam was here today with his eyas falcon ,she was a little over weight and also a little over 800ft ,she clipped a mallard but not good enough but greef she can fly !
jeff

Glad shes flying well, think he was a little disheartened when he came to mine, but im sure it was an off day, he has produced some outstanding falcons in the past and im sure this one will be the same.

[Falcons7]

I heard Mat, ooo was he sick but she has been going nice since and was very tasty tonight ,didnt look like an eyas but Im sure she will have plenty bad days over the season .Its all a case of getting many more good days than bad with an eyas falcon in preperation for her next season when she is more mature and buisness like but the flights he has talked me through and the one here tonight he is going to have some fun.
jeff





I[quote=Falcons7;922118]Its no joke Gerry , wor sam's embracing progress although seeing some good kite trained falcons fly was a help ,I think Sam had only seen junk fly untill the last few years .Si Hyam was here today with his eyas falcon ,she was a little over weight and also a little over 800ft ,she clipped a mallard but not good enough but greef she can fly !
jeff

Glad shes flying well, think he was a little disheartened when he came to mine, but im sure it was an off day, he has produced some outstanding falcons in the past and im sure this one will be the same.

[Matt King]

I heard Mat, ooo was he sick but she has been going nice since and was very tasty tonight ,didnt look like an eyas but Im sure she will have plenty bad days over the season .Its all a case of getting many more good days than bad with an eyas falcon in preperation for her next season when she is more mature and buisness like but the flights he has talked me through and the one here tonight he is going to have some fun.
jeff

Like you said shes still an eyas and the bad days will get less and less, mine has decided to bleed off speed in a stoop and fly along side cock pheasants, but duck and partridge he flys straight through.

[Judd Casper]

Sam ,Ill lend you one when the time comes .Jimmys had the red one away so he could copy it .
JEFFHi Jeff when i breed myself another eyass Ill take you up on that offer thanks.

Sam

[Matt King]

Hi Jeff when i breed myself another eyass Ill take you up on that offer thanks.

Sam

Plenty of life left in your two yet sam, but if you need a good home for one......

[Judd Casper]

[QUOTE=Judd Casper;920533]They look the biz Jeff i can see where Mr woods got the idea from now....shame you not selling one i would have been interested in your spare for me next falcon



Bloody Hell Sam! Is that tongue in cheek or are you seriously considering using a kite?

Gerry xHi Gerry a good friend of mine is flying an eyass tiercel that has been kited and it flies lovely and i have seen Simon's falcon and it looks a cracking prospect just the same as his two tiercels......saying that my two are flying superb at the moment with very little flying under there belts, Lex killed a melanistic rooster tonight from around 800ft with aplomb.As you know she was a none starter as an eyass so maybe the kite could have gave me a start with her in her red year?


Sam

[Judd Casper]

Plenty of life left in your two yet sam, but if you need a good home for one......Thanks Matt I'll keep you in mind.:yawinkle:

Sam