Aylmeri. or false Aylmeri

[BrianM]

what do you guys use, i like the idea of the false aylmeri as the wife wont help to cast the bird till i use the eyelet tool( shes feart)...lol but are they just as safe ??

[Hawkmaster]

False is too much hassle but some birds have to have them.

Rather get one of those eyelet closers so you can do it on your own.

[OutFlying]

what do you guys use, i like the idea of the false aylmeri as the wife wont help to cast the bird till i use the eyelet tool( shes feart)...lol but are they just as safe ??

Are you "Billy no mates" :lol: , only joking. Isn't there anyone at all who can hold the hawk in a towel for you to use the traditional closing tool. If you get the plier type closing tool, it is possible to change the anklets without casting. Just change them when the hawk is feeding on a carcass on the floor.

Outflying.

[Gozzhawk]

Definetely go for the real deal , whole reason of not having a 'mews jess slit ' is its safer , but thats assuming the bird is free lofted , if the bird is tethered then makes no odds

[BrianM]

Are you "Billy no mates" :lol: , only joking. Isn't there anyone at all who can hold the hawk in a towel for you to use the traditional closing tool. If you get the plier type closing tool, it is possible to change the anklets without casting. Just change them when the hawk is feeding on a carcass on the floor.

Outflying.[/quote]
no i am brian no mates :cry: :D i have nobody near that i know off who is a falconer too help,, and you know what its like trying to do it with a falconry virgin :shock: :shock:

[OutFlying]

It doesn't need to be a falconer to hold the bird in a towel, but if you don't think anyone can help you try the plier type and change them whilst the hawk is feeding. I did it with my imprint gos no problem.

[Goldie]

Don,t think I can be too far from you Brian If your stuck

[Bill]

Definetely go for the real deal , whole reason of not having a 'mews jess slit ' is its safer , but thats assuming the bird is free lofted , if the bird is tethered then makes no odds

Is there some confusion here?

Brian, what do you mean by false Aylmeri?

[Hawkmaster]

Guys this is another good reason why you should go put up a thread in this section:
http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=180

To say where you are from, so that we can all help each other out in times of need.

So come on lets see Lanarkshire up there!

[Falconry Equipment International]

In Fact i now after 40 years use neither as posted on a previous posting, I will try to upload pictures of my sisystem, which does use mews /field jesses, but no eylets, the hawk does not need to be cast when fitting, etc
J

[Hawkmaster]

Jay you have mentioned on several occaisions now that you have 40 year experience. Is this when you were first introduced or actually trained a bird?

[Goldie]

Guys this is another good reason why you should go put up a thread in this section:
http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=180

To say where you are from, so that we can all help each other out in times of need.

So come on lets see Lanarkshire up there!

Will do :wink:

[Sean]

hi HM, have u noticed the problem with teh forum time, like the way its says about 6 posts ago that goldie posted today at Today at 11:57 pm, and it aint even 11:57am yet! lol

[Hawkmaster]

Hi there Sean, chance your time zone in your profile.

[Sean]

my time zone is correct HM, liek it said my last post was posted at 11:12, just have a lil ook at all teh times of the posts on this thread, also noticed it on a few other threads

[Hawkmaster]

Best to send a PM to Sparrow, he will sort it or come up with an explanation.

[Goldie]

My post Re:-today at 11:57 was posted last night at 11:57 :?

[Falconry Equipment International]

Jay you have mentioned on several occaisions now that you have 40 year experience. Is this when you were first introduced or actually trained a bird?
Hi Hawkmaster, depends on how you define flaconry? if you define it as having your first hawk tthat actually caught serious amounts of quarry, then No, that was in '72 when I got a wild haggard German F Gos (after various birds including the lanner mentioned in a different thread)but I had my 1st kestrel(autumn '64) that we picked up by the roadside (injured wing that me and my father self repaired with splint & elastoplast) took over six mionths to get him flying , eventully flew to the lure although unfortunately in his 3.5 yrs with me he never managed to hover again soon after his deathe I went on a falconry course ( 3 weeks at Philip Glasiers newly opened Falconry Centre in 1968)
hope this makes sense
J

[Falconry Equipment International]

Sorry meant to mmention that time spent involved in any activity does not neccessarily mean excellence , although that is what should be strived for. When as a child I learnt to ride the internationally renowned instructor that taught me made me aware that her mother whilst having been around horses, rode them etc etc , for nearly 50 yrs , did not know one end fromn the other so to speak
J

[Jack Merlin]

you have mentioned on several occaisions now that you have 40 year experience. Is this when you were first introduced or actually trained a bird?

"Experience is proportional to intensity, not duration", quote by author Thomas Hardy!<g>

(Just trying to stir up a bit of trouble....<vbg>)

[Falconry Equipment International]

Well said Jack!

[North East Harris Hawker]

go for the real deal i say, less chance of your bird picking at it at actually getting anywhere

[OutFlying]

Freshly fitted anklets, using plier type tool, no casting, fitted in seconds.
Gos aged 26 days ish.

[Wightwings]

WICKED......... now thats a picture you just gotta love.........so tell me HOW does something that soddin fluffy turn into an unfeeling killing machine....... :twisted: :twisted: WICKED

[OutFlying]

A few thousands years of natural instinct just seems to take over in the next 20 odd days.

[BrianM]

WICKED......... now thats a picture you just gotta love.........so tell me HOW does something that soddin fluffy turn into an unfeeling killing machine....... :twisted: :twisted: WICKED

my wife was soft and fluffy till i married her now she can tear me a new asshole at 50 paces :shock: :x

[Wightwings]

ha ha ha love it Brian..........aint that the truth

[North East Harris Hawker]

real aylmeris or false ones....
i always like things to be real if at all possible

like real kelloggs as opposed to tesco's own
real ale rather than that french ****
when are false things ever good?
.
..... ah, ive just thought of one, ... pregnancies..
they are definately better to be false! :lol:

[Jastreb]

False tits yeeeeeeeaah-silikon forever
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: !
I used false and true alymeri, and love more true!

[IAmTheWeasel]

A few thousands years of natural instinct just seems to take over in the next 20 odd days.Thousands??....try Millions :lol: