Can someone please help me understand this . . . .

[Hawkmaster]

How does the 'Right to Roam' thing work?

Once that is clear how does everyone feel about it :?:

[Falconry Equipment International]

I am as clueless as you all i do know is the likes of Janet street bleedodin porter think they cvan waljk every where regardless of gorund nesting( or other birds breeding seasons :roll: :finga: :?: :?:

[Coedhirion]

some areas designated on maps, kinda comman land, now allow you to walk, picnic etc. dogs must be on a lead if stock are about, and at all times during designated dates (around lambing) as far as I can tell any how. Luckily all my land falls just outside any of these areas.
How would people feel if I camped on their front or back garden without their permision?????? answer your question in part I hope :evil:

[Hawkmaster]

Just found this:

'Right to Roam' legislation, under the Countryside and Rights of Way (CRoW) Act

The most important thing you need to know is that it DOES NOT give you the right to roam wherever you want to.
It is not yet in effect, and is being implemented area by area
The 'Lower North West' and 'South East' of England were the first affected areas, in September of 2004
England should be covered by the end of 2005, Wales only starts in 2005 and Scotland is not covered by the act
There will be a right of access to mountain, moor, heath, down and common land
Landowners can dedicate land not covered - for instance, woodland is not included
Some land is excluded - farmland, golf courses etc
There are no new rights for cyclists, riders, canoeists etc,
You should not light fires, damage plants or animals. If you do, you lose your right of access for 3 days and can be treated as a trespasser
Landowners can stop access for 28 days a year without notice

[Goldie]

[quote="Hawkmaster"]Just found this:

England should be covered by the end of 2005, Wales only starts in 2005 and Scotland is not covered by the act

:prayer: :prayer: :prayer: says godie who doesn't like to be disturbed when I'm hawking in sunny Scotland :lol:

[BrianM]

some areas designated on maps, kinda comman land, now allow you to walk, picnic etc. dogs must be on a lead if stock are about, and at all times during designated dates (around lambing) as far as I can tell any how. Luckily all my land falls just outside any of these areas.
How would people feel if I camped on their front or back garden without their permision?????? answer your question in part I hope :evil:

my mate jim whos a farmer quotes that line everytime he has people tramping all over his fields.. never works though there is allways some prat on a dirtbike or walking 7 ****ing dogs without leads .. he has told me that if i see a dog running free to shoot it on sight.. havent done it though i have seen a lab sprinting about,, had a word with the owner and he called it in..but i think this year there will be no prisoners taken,, jim is the most easy going and honest person it is my privelige to know but he is getting really ****ed off with the general public waltzing in and out the land that feeds and clothes his kids leaving gates open etc.. last august we were out checking the ewes and found 12 worried to death by dogs kinda sums it up dont you think??

[Coedhirion]

Landowners can dedicate land not covered - for instance, woodland is not included
Well not quite..that's the theory.. in practice we were given the map and told we could object if we wanted, but unless you could come up with a reason that they hadn't thought of you stood no chance. Some people especialy around Snowdonia did have a go, they get a lot of problems as it is and too many walkers cause damage to the envirenment. Any how I dont know any one who tried to escape 'the map' succeeding. or may be it's still waiting to go through the system that sort of thing takes you about 5 years, you still loose any how.

[ColdZero]

It would **** me off if people walked on my land (if i had any). A few rottweilers would keep most away i would hope. However like prince something who have 1000's of acres they don't even know about.....they could share.

[Saker-Clive]

On one of the farms I shoot and fly, we regularly get walkers strolling across or dogs running about. When approached and asked why are they on private property off the designated footpaths they usually say they didn't know it was private land!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! doh............twenty fresian cows in the field or sheep. Who do they think they belong to?

Anyway, a couple of shots with the rifle usually gets them going.

[BlackHawke]

thats just an accident waiting to happen!!! few walkers excercising their rights! whoops bang! sorry thought u were a fox!!! :twisted:

[Jack Merlin]

Scotland is not covered by the act

Because Scotland has its own legislation. The "right to roam" already exists under Scottish law -- but you still have a right to privacy, etc.

[Hawkmaster]

Still confused unfortunately:(

[North East Harris Hawker]

im sure that there is no tresspass law in scotland over moor mountain and heath, (or something along these lines) which effectively gives you a right to roam

[Misty]

my mate jim whos a farmer quotes that line everytime he has people tramping all over his fields.. never works though there is allways some prat on a dirtbike or walking 7 ****ing dogs without leads .. he has told me that if i see a dog running free to shoot it on sight.. havent done it though i have seen a lab sprinting about,, had a word with the owner and he called it in..but i think this year there will be no prisoners taken,, jim is the most easy going and honest person it is my privelige to know but he is getting really ****ed off with the general public waltzing in and out the land that feeds and clothes his kids leaving gates open etc.. last august we were out checking the ewes and found 12 worried to death by dogs kinda sums it up dont you think??

hey, don't shoot the dogs - shoot the owners!

[North East Harris Hawker]

very true, how about putting up some laminated signs stating that "dogs not on leads may well be mistaken for foxes" with a picture of a shotgun underneath it.
this should do the trick "close the gate" signs cost pennies to put up too

[MattSpar]

Because Scotland has its own legislation. The "right to roam" already exists under Scottish law -- but you still have a right to privacy, etc.

Brian Plummer once told me there's no law of trespass in Scotland. Is this right?