Tiercel Gos Getting Ready for a new season

[Dan Paradis]

Ready to a good go for the upcoming hunting season, last year he caught numerous ducks and a snow goose

any one else started their intermewed birds ?

Dan

[HallBeck]

All these pics of these stunning goshawks are making me want one! Last time i had a gos it drove me nuts - not sure if my temperament has cooled enough to try again!

[Dan Paradis]

..anyone else is flying an intermewed bird this year ? euh, Thanks to share taber..

[Rabadswompe]

Boris just had is 1st free flight (his 3rd season but 1st with me)!!!! Everything went well even with a bit of distraction (neighbor).

That Gos looks great Dan! Gonna go for more snow geese this year?

[Dan Paradis]

Boris just had is 1st free flight!!!! Everything went well even with a bit of distraction (neighbor).

That Gos looks great Dan! Gonna go for more snow geese this year?

Aléluia ! My first real reply to this post ! Congratulations Yann keep up the good work ! What's the weight

You know I love pics if you dare (please) send some when ever you wish.

I hope not to catch any goose with this tiercel but ducks, teals, Spruce and Ruffed Grouse locally. He even went for a great blue heron flushing out of the cattails...but vire off as he closes the gap, happily for me...and him

Dan

[Rabadswompe]

My good camera died (screen won't show pics ...gggrrrr) but I'll use the cheap one (pics won't be as good).

He was keen at 750gr this morning and all went well (focus only on me, immediate response everytime)!!! Will enter him on chuckar this week and pheaseants soon . I'll wait for leaves to fall before I take him after the cottontail rabbits (he hits the bunny lure real good:)).

Talking about pheasants... prices have gone up like mad...25$ a pair here. :rolleyes: All due to the grain price increase.

[Kitana]

Your tiercel gos is beautiful, I wish you a very excellent season! Where do you go for the ducks, in the middle of agricultural fields or in ditches/rivers? I have yet to find a setting suitable for hawking them. You also mentionned ruffed grouse... I know we have talked about that in the past, but I go again... Are they a real everyday goal for you, or a pleasant once-in-a-season exception?

I keep seeing tons and tons of them each and every time I go for a hike, most are much too fast for my male harris, but they are so plentiful if a small male gos could have a serious advantage against them it would be interesting.

[HunterJen]

All these pics of these stunning goshawks are making me want one!
I know how you feel and the excitement really gets on top of you
Was going to go for one after I lose my 12yr old HH, but have decided to take on a cast of HH brothers when the time comes. Maybe after that it might be time for a Gos :roll: lol
Duck hawking with a gos just sounds the most spectacular thing :supz:
Please, please, please keep us all informed on your progress and if possible pics and vids would be soo much appreciated :P

Jenet

[Dan Paradis]

My good camera died (screen won't show pics ...gggrrrr) but I'll use the cheap one (pics won't be as good).

He was keen at 750gr this morning and all went well (focus only on me, immediate response everytime)!!! Will enter him on chuckar this week and pheaseants soon . I'll wait for leaves to fall before I take him after the cottontail rabbits (he hits the bunny lure real good:)).

Talking about pheasants... prices have gone up like mad...25$ a pair here. :rolleyes: All due to the grain price increase.

That is a big guy ! one of my breeder is flying at around that heavy weight in summer and T° like today is something ! (28°C)

Pheasants are the same price here @ ±16 weeks old. But you need just a few (around 4-6) to make a good job and use the bird laucher to finish the work...

Any pics are good ! don't bother with quality at this stage

Dan

[Dan Paradis]

Your tiercel gos is beautiful, I wish you a very excellent season! Where do you go for the ducks, in the middle of agricultural fields or in ditches/rivers? I have yet to find a setting suitable for hawking them. You also mentionned ruffed grouse... I know we have talked about that in the past, but I go again... Are they a real everyday goal for you, or a pleasant once-in-a-season exception?

I keep seeing tons and tons of them each and every time I go for a hike, most are much too fast for my male harris, but they are so plentiful if a small male gos could have a serious advantage against them it would be interesting.

Yes Audrey I realy like this bird (parent reared for 5 weeks only making for a good eyassy quality bird). My prime goal last year was to go for the Ruffed Grouse but I had to focus on waterfowl being most abundant here in agri ditches and small rivers in my immidiate area. We even have a good bunch of Spruce Grouse and a small population of Grey Huns. The problem with the Ruffed is that they are too easely spooked in our build up areas and hunting pressure is strong...so they are easy to flush out of range even for shotguns.

Plus... they are sooo FAST !

Maybe it would be possible on a reflush if you can find them again, but that is rather hard to acheive in a dense wood lot. I beleive in more remote areas of Quebec it would be more likely to be straightforward in the bag with a Gos. I recall when I was in CFB Senneterre back in 77-80 I was hunting Ruffed G. wit my Dad and we were using .410's ga. to shoot them because they were so close from us... that would the best set up for a tiecel Gos IMO.

SO that is why,,,since I do not live in Abitibi :roll: (Paradise for the Outdoor sports) I want to find the best hawk to hunt Ruffed G. regularly and with reasonable success in our stressful build-up environment and I named the Coopers Hawks !

They Catches Everything :!: Of course there is always "the set up factor" but from my point of view that is my last resource to be honest after Ruffed G. I will still work my tiercel hard this year on them before I set my mind for good.

Bye for now,

Dan

[Kitana]

That's good to hear Dan, you are right they are not easily spooked here but boy when they go, they go! We flush most of them from the side of the trails, or from the trail directly, and they hold still for as long as we don't come very close to them. My hawk almost got one that flushed from under its nose. I may want to try a gos in the future for that purpose, when I am more experienced, there are not enough feathered quarry here for a cooper. Ruffed and Spruce grouse in abundance, ducks, some ptarmigan, some sharptail grouse, and for the passionate some snipes. No partridge, huns, no pheasant. So having a hawk able to catch feather and fur is a must, and Coopers are just too lightly built for hare. In my opinion... But I have never seen one hunting so it's just an uninformed opinion!

Yann, that's so nice for Boris!! Whenever you want to come hunting up here you are welcome, I found some very very interesting places for hawking, and even for falcons on ducks in case Helen would be interested with her Valdi.

[Yeoman]

Hi Dan,Mine will be out this week

[Dan Paradis]

That's good to hear Dan, you are right they are not easily spooked here but boy when they go, they go! We flush most of them from the side of the trails, or from the trail directly, and they hold still for as long as we don't come very close to them. My hawk almost got one that flushed from under its nose. I may want to try a gos in the future for that purpose, when I am more experienced, there are not enough feathered quarry here for a cooper. Ruffed and Spruce grouse in abundance, ducks, some ptarmigan, some sharptail grouse, and for the passionate some snipes. No partridge, huns, no pheasant. So having a hawk able to catch feather and fur is a must, and Coopers are just too lightly built for hare. In my opinion... But I have never seen one hunting so it's just an uninformed opinion!

Yann, that's so nice for Boris!! Whenever you want to come hunting up here you are welcome, I found some very very interesting places for hawking, and even for falcons on ducks in case Helen would be interested with her Valdi.

If I replace the D for a Y add an n to my name and call my Gos Boris can I come :lol: I'm a good chef too ;-)

[Dan Paradis]

Hi Dan,Mine will be out this week

good!

are you targeting talibans on your avatar ?

[Yeoman]

good!

are you targeting talibans on your avatar ?

Not me Dan thats my son in iraq

[Kitana]

If I replace the D for a Y add an n to my name and call my Gos Boris can I come :lol: I'm a good chef too ;-)

Of course Dan!! I welcome every falconer who is ready to drive all the way to abitibi! Good chefs especially! ;)

[Dan Paradis]

Of course Dan!! I welcome every falconer who is ready to drive all the way to abitibi! Good chefs especially! ;)

That's a package deal ! I could drive any distance for the best place on earth to hunt with my bird :supz: especially the Ruffed Grouse...

Dan

[Kitana]

That's a package deal ! I could drive any distance for the best place on earth to hunt with my bird :supz: especially the Ruffed Grouse...

Dan

And I would really really enjoy tagging along and seeing first hand your tiercel gos on ruffed grouse... Maybe a mini-meet would be interesting, if Yann and Helen would like to come and help saving on gaz... L'Action de Grâces maybe? lol

To answer your original question, my bird is back in training for 2 weeks (or is it 3? lol), and so far he caught a huge yellow mushroom, a very nasty rock, a mouse full of fleas and worms and he almost caught a ruffed grouse, he was so ****ed after missing this one he told everyone about it... What a temper! lol

[Rabadswompe]

I've got more than half a mid to go up there Audrey! Most probably after the woodcock migration though (end of october)

Dan, It would be great to see the 2 brothers work together! multiple points on ruffed grouse....the dream! Or shaptails....oooooooo

Willl try to get a decent pic with this evening's training session. Boris now follows-on from trees :) Will serve him bagies this long weekend.

What's your Gos' name ????

[Mr Ramshaw]

did'nt know there was such a thing as a tiercel gos,if you are gonna use falconry terms for hawks get it right

[Rabadswompe]

Here's my Boy!
I was nervous during this training session... the transmitter's cable-tie broke. When I realised he wasn't wearing it, I pursued without troubling the routine. Everything went well.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d115/rabadswompe/26aot002-1-1.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d115/rabadswompe/26aot003.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d115/rabadswompe/26aot004.jpg
Here he is on one of my training perches...a "T" on a pipe with a round concrete base.

[Dan Paradis]

did'nt know there was such a thing as a tiercel gos,if you are gonna use falconry terms for hawks get it right

Wait a minute Buddy... a Tiercel Goshawk is the exact and specific word in falconry terms to designate the male of the Goshawk

Have a nice "go" to another one :rolleyes:

Dan

[Hawking]

Wait a minute Buddy... a Tiercel Goshawk is the exact and specific word in falconry terms to designate the male of the Goshawk

Have a nice "go" to another one :rolleyes:

Dan

That was my impression but what do I know..........I took it to be referring to a Male Gos:confused:

Yann...can't wait to see em in action....

As for the trip...do I see the next Canadian Falconry Meet in the works??????? Com' on now don't hold out on us.....

[Dan Paradis]

And I would really really enjoy tagging along and seeing first hand your tiercel gos on ruffed grouse... Maybe a mini-meet would be interesting, if Yann and Helen would like to come and help saving on gaz... L'Action de Grâces maybe? lol

To answer your original question, my bird is back in training for 2 weeks (or is it 3? lol), and so far he caught a huge yellow mushroom, a very nasty rock, a mouse full of fleas and worms and he almost caught a ruffed grouse, he was so ****ed after missing this one he told everyone about it... What a temper! lol

That is a very good idea Audrey ! A mini meet (here and there) could only be great to improve everyone's experience, knowledge, observations and fun !

Lets take that into consideration for a near futur :supz:

Yann, good stuff keep on going ! Thanks for the pics. Keep them coming !

Dan

[GregMik]

Dan,

I was going to get going early, but when I got these two days ago.... I am now looking for opening of Ducks the first week in October.


Greg

[Jastreb]

My 2007 Austrian Imprint tiercel. Took him out in the end of last week.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/jastreb/Tim0812.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/jastreb/tim089.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/jastreb/tim088.jpg

Quail hunting starts soon....

Cheers Viktor

[CanadaManada]

did'nt know there was such a thing as a tiercel gos,if you are gonna use falconry terms for hawks get it right

I LOVE stuff like this. Nothing better than seeing a know-it-all fall flat on his silly face. Mr Ramshaw, if YOU are going to correct people's terminology. YOU should get it right. Tiercel has been the accepted term for male goshawk for hundreds of years.

Justin

[Yeoman]

did'nt know there was such a thing as a tiercel gos,if you are gonna use falconry terms for hawks get it right

Male gos is, and always has been known as a Tiercel, its the male harris that often gets wrongly called a Tiercel.
Kev

[Rabadswompe]

I like the mini-meet idea very much... no big fuss, just good hawking outings!

[Kitana]

Here's my Boy!
I was nervous during this training session... the transmitter's cable-tie broke. When I realised he wasn't wearing it, I pursued without troubling the routine. Everything went well.


He looks fabulous Yann! Those first outings are so stressful to the falconer! This year I was happy to fly my bird free after 2 recalls on the creance, but I look forward to my next bird to live this adrenaline rush again! I guess those cottontails you have down there will have a hard time come september 20? :)

The door is open for a small meet if you guys can stand abitibian mosquitoes, yes they do survive the first frosts! ;)

[Dan Paradis]

Jastreb, you have a real awsome country for austringry, even in the rocky semi desert land you got around Slpit (south west) and elsewhere might find good set ups for the falcons. Nice tiercel you have there, looks quite the same size as mine, hunting weight around 670gr. what's yours ?

Greg, I guess you have a passage or imprint American Gos, tiercel is it ? But you'll be on time the same for hunting season :supz:

Dan

[Jastreb]

Hi Dan,

Thanks :D

Yes country is generally perfect for any kind of game only we need proper management :lol:

He will fly this year around same weight like yours. He is now perfectly coming on 650g but still chitters cos he has fat on other places in the body except keel what is normal.
So, in this moment manning and little more weight reduction + washed chicks and high jumps :wink:

HE IS PERFECT WITH DOGS :supz:

Cheers Viktor

[Juddy Casper]

My 2007 Austrian Imprint tiercel. Took him out in the end of last week.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/jastreb/Tim0812.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/jastreb/tim089.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/jastreb/tim088.jpg

Quail hunting starts soon....

Cheers Viktor

He looks well pal, had a very good moult.
Jay

[Jastreb]

Thanks mate!

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/jastreb/Tim0813.jpg

Soon hunting but I am not in a rush.........season is coming :wink: .....still around 30 Celsius during day in Croatia.

Cheers Viktor

[Rabadswompe]

[QUOTE=Kitana;873477] I guess those cottontails you have down there will have a hard time come september 20? :) [QUOTE]

Thanks Audrey! I like Boris alot in appearance and attitude.
I plan to make the bunnies' life realllllllly hard :twisted: but for the moment, pheasant or chuckar on the menu this weekend if I can find some at the local breeders.

Is it true... it takes only 3 abitibian mosquitoes to make a pie ????:rolleyes::lol:

[Kitana]

Is it true... it takes only 3 abitibian mosquitoes to make a pie ????:rolleyes::lol:

Well, it depends... If you feed the pie to Abitibian guys, then they need lot more meat than that... But for you lot from Montreal and Quebec, yes 3 would be enough! You just have to be careful in the choice of car for mosquito hunting, you need reinforced windshields as regular ones will shatter under the shock of a full-grown abitibian mosquito hiting it at full speed... There is a high level of technic involved... High technology...

It's good to hear about your bird being entered. I can't get my hands on anything captive bred here except for bunnies, so I have to do with what I found. But I am getting better at finding things! lol

Those goshawks look splendid, real hunters. One of these days I will take the plunge.

[Dan Paradis]

Viktor, simply out of curiosity,

Do you know this Guy? I took this picture in Feb 2001 in Split but just don't remember the name of it !? I remember its been cut in trhee pieces and hidden in the Adriatic sea during WW2 by fear of Hitlers bomings..then re-fix parts together after the war. The deal is to rub his toe for knowledge input or something like that ?!

Dan

[Jastreb]

Hi Dan,

It's Grgur Ninski. He was very influence bishop and chancellor of Croatian Court. He was also right hand of Croatian King Tomislav who was btw. very passionate falconer and even while he was accepting crown on Duvanjsko field holding falcon on the fist.

I hope I helped you :D

Cheers Viktor

[GregMik]

Jastreb, you have a real awsome country for austringry, even in the rocky semi desert land you got around Slpit (south west) and elsewhere might find good set ups for the falcons. Nice tiercel you have there, looks quite the same size as mine, hunting weight around 670gr. what's yours ?

Greg, I guess you have a passage or imprint American Gos, tiercel is it ? But you'll be on time the same for hunting season :supz:

Dan


Dan,

The male is a Finnish bird. I will also be flying a NA female passage, who has a few feathers yet to complete.

Greg

[Dan Paradis]

Dan,

The male is a Finnish bird. I will also be flying a NA female passage, who has a few feathers yet to complete.

Greg

Greg, what is the ± hunting weight of your tiercel, just like to know

Dan

[Dan Paradis]

Hi Dan,

It's Grgur Ninski. He was very influence bishop and chancellor of Croatian Court. He was also right hand of Croatian King Tomislav who was btw. very passionate falconer and even while he was accepting crown on Duvanjsko field holding falcon on the fist.

I hope I helped you :D

Cheers Viktor

Thanks so much Viktor ! WOW!

I have other pictures of the Croatian country side I've took (I have been around in 93-94 and in 2001-2002) for work. Will send some later..

Cheers

Dan

[SilverLeapers]

That's a package deal ! I could drive any distance for the best place on earth to hunt with my bird :supz: especially the Ruffed Grouse...

Dan

How are you and Wendy with ferry's and sea sickness (as in Marine Atlantic...ke he he )....I don't figure its the best place on earth...but we have loads of un-hunted grouse and ptarmigan populations up here...(and loads of wild gos's too....watch out). I could use a break from cooking....do you do a good slab of prime rib on the Barbie? I can TT some cash to help with the gas, ferry, and a hotel. We could go to the lodge up the coast or take the trailers locally. You guys really should visit???:supz:

[Wapity]

here is my austrian female imprinted gos ready too hoping yo have another exciting season on rabbit and brown hare!!!:supz::supz:

ciao giacomo

[Jastreb]

Hi Giacomo,

She looks awesome!

Was she laying eggs?

Cheers Viktor

[Wapity]

not yet, but the last spring, she make the curt, I am not able to stimulate here I hope for the next year:oops::oops:

ciao Giacomo

[Jastreb]

Thanks!

Nice bird!

Cheers Viktor

[Dan Paradis]

Nice Gos Giacomo :supz:

[Wapity]

Thanks a lot :oops:

She is not very big but really fast, is exactly what we need in Italy

ciao Giacomo

[Jastreb]

Giacomo what do you usually hunt in Italy?

Do you have lots of quarry?

Cheers Viktor

[Wapity]

:(:( no not many but, mainly I prefer hunt the american cottontail rabbit, and we have a lot of moorhen, unfortunately my old irish setter, died last year. for the hare we go to north austria where my gos coming from.

what about you all, can you make a lot of catch with your gos???

ciao Giacomo

[Jastreb]

Here is only problem in poor game management considering war time and some OLD BAD SCHOOL GUYS but you can have very good fun with pheasants, partridges, wild quails....not to much hares in my area but is getting better.

Cheers Viktor

[Dan Paradis]

Here is only problem in poor game management considering war time and some OLD BAD SCHOOL GUYS but you can have very good fun with pheasants, partridges, wild quails....not to much hares in my area but is getting better.

Cheers Viktor

I know a lot about the "war time" in your area Viktor... One of the problems is with "anti-personal mines" making ideal hawking sites unsafe to say the least. But nothing to compare with Bosnia or Serbia country side though. Lost a couple of fellows there for it. Still some of my best souvenirs are in Croatia, to bad I did'nt know you back then !

Dan

[Jastreb]

I know a lot about the "war time" in your area Viktor... One of the problems is with "anti-personal mines" making ideal hawking sites unsafe to say the least. But nothing to compare with Bosnia or Serbia country side though. Lost a couple of fellows there for it. Still some of my best souvenirs are in Croatia, to bad I did'nt know you back then !

Dan

Yes you are right but today if everything fine. It's safe on all places where hunters are going. It passed 13 years since than and government was working on that problem very hard.

Yes, shame we didn't know each other......I was than dreaming about falconry in basement while war was out there............no kidding.....

Cheers Viktor

[Wapity]

oh yes, bad education !!! in Italy we have the same problem too, unfortunately many hunter are very dangerous for our hawks.

ciao Giacomo

[Dan Paradis]

Yes you are right but today if everything fine. It's safe on all places where hunters are going. It passed 13 years since than and government was working on that problem very hard.

Yes, shame we didn't know each other......I was than dreaming about falconry in basement while war was out there............no kidding.....

Cheers Viktor

...that's me with patrol near Gospic (Dinaric Moutains) in 2001...I saw some Lesser Spotted Eagles there and most probably Imperial Eagles aswell.(?) I was flying a female euro Gos at home back then..

Dan

[SakerJack]

Hood is in the mail tomorrow for your Gos Dan!!

[Jastreb]

Hi Dan,

I have relatives in Gospic, I am glad you've been there :D

I hope you liked nature :D

This area now is very developed cos new highways are finished and some areas are prepared for Grey Partridge releasing exclusively for dog training + there is good number of wild ones.

Here is the picture from that area which I took 3 weeks before.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/jastreb/Udbina.jpg

BTW some quail hawking from today. Still over 30 Celsius and to hot!!!!

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/jastreb/Tim0819.jpg

Cheers Viktor

[SakerJack]

Great pictures Viktor

[Dan Paradis]

Hood is in the mail tomorrow for your Gos Dan!!

Thanks very much Ken, Let me know about the details ...

Dan

[Dan Paradis]

Hi Dan,

I have relatives in Gospic, I am glad you've been there :D

I hope you liked nature :D

This area now is very developed cos new highways are finished and some areas are prepared for Grey Partridge releasing exclusively for dog training + there is good number of wild ones.

Here is the picture from that area which I took 3 weeks before.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/jastreb/Udbina.jpg

BTW some quail hawking from today. Still over 30 Celsius and to hot!!!!

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a336/jastreb/Tim0819.jpg

Cheers Viktor

Absolutely Viktor ! You have a real nice country, nature, landscape and wildlife !

Nice pics of your team aswell, keep them coming !

Dan

[Jastreb]

Hi,

Thanks :D

Cheers Viktor

[Dan Paradis]

last week's training with GSP

Dan

[Jastreb]

Very nice :D

[Wapity]

I just start to decrease the weight.

I so the picture jastreb, very nice country:supz::supz:

[Dan Paradis]

Ken,

Thank you for that hood, I like it alot ! I will smooth out the cere area a little and everything will be ti-gui-doo :supz:

Dan

[SakerJack]

Just saw your post glad you like it Dan..

[Rabadswompe]

Dan? Ken? What model is that hood ?

[SakerJack]

Pred8tr

[Rabadswompe]

ooooooooooooo :D

[Dan Paradis]

closer to hunting weight today at 663gr. still missing motivation but he will be ready for next week's opening season

[SakerJack]

Love that stare!!

[Dan Paradis]

...lots of baggies, different set ups, more and more difficult time after time...

Dan