marshall telemetry

[BrianM]

where do i buy a set???
Robin Haigh hasnt got a very good after sales reputation... Garlands are very very expensive ( so i am told ) to what you can get it from the states,,
and i am told not to buy second hand if i can afford new....

[Falconry Equipment International]

Yup , you'll have to get someone you know in the states to puchase it for you and then send it on!

[BrianM]

can i not just buy it from their website and get it sent over???

[Falconry Equipment International]

try but I think youll be sorely dissapointed.Could be wrong of course . let us know how you get on

[Goldie]

I reckon as soon as they see your postal address they will refer you to garlands

[BrianM]

i am completly in the dark with this , just going with what the guys on here have said.. i cant get a price, or reply from anybody,, ive sent emails phone calls etc seems nobody wants my money......lol well apart from the wife but dont tell her......

[Goldie]

Brian did you phone garlands for price list as per my PM?

[Falconry Equipment International]

By the way Brian when you finally have a price , for gawds sake follow this rule ! Total pric eit actually costs, devide it by 4 , then take the price again and devide it by 10. add the 2 together and perhaps add a few pence on,(see e.g. below) She 'll still moan like crazy but will give you a much less hard time :wink:
E.g. 1000 / 4 = 250 + 1000/10 =100 = 350, add an odd bit on say 6.25 £356.25 soiund a hell of a lot beeter than a grand!

[BrianM]

By the way Brian when you finally have a price , for gawds sake follow this rule ! Total pric eit actually costs, devide it by 4 , then take the price again and devide it by 10. add the 2 together and perhaps add a few pence on,(see e.g. below) She 'll still moan like crazy but will give you a much less hard time :wink:
E.g. 1000 / 4 = 250 + 1000/10 =100 = 350, add an odd bit on say 6.25 £356.25 soiund a hell of a lot beeter than a grand!
you sneeky wee so and so

[BrianM]

right ,, ive phoned that no goldie and have been quoted £148 for a rt transmitter and £510 for a 5 channel receiver,, is that all i would need??

[Falconry Equipment International]

He he he learnt this when I waas racing bikes in the 70's/80's I remembering doing my best to trash a 500 suzuki 2 stroke at Spa in belgium, when the missus saw the bike hse says ooh that's going to cost a packet! ( too bloody right nearly 3k that was nearly a whole months prize money for the previous monyth whi had been one of my most successful to date) well you guessed did the above( although slightly different formala, ie it worked out to just over £500 and she still went spare! gawd know what would have happened if she had found out the true cost

[Goldie]

brian, the £510 includes the collapsible top mounted stealth antenna & batteries. You will need batteries for the RT plus then you are all set to go. You should consider a holster for the receiver, about £10.
They will send you a price list next day that will give you all the other things they have to offer. ie choice of transmitters, receiver cases,accessories,spare parts, along with books vids and just about anything else related with falconry

[BrianM]

right i phoned back,,,, rt transmitter,, £148,,,,,receiver £510,,, Batteries £2 each , p&p £9,,,

[Mary Quite Contrary]

right ,, ive phoned that no goldie and have been quoted £148 for a rt transmitter and £510 for a 5 channel receiver,, is that all i would need??


Hi Brian

I am looking at a marshall or a luksander so what you are doing is helpful. Please tell us how you get on in the end.

Regards

[Goldie]

What you waiting for :lol: :lol: and GET their price list for the stuff :)

[BrianM]

its in the post Goldie. get it tomorrow ya big bully......lol

[Goldie]

:finga: :lol:

[BrianM]

[quote Please tell us how you get on in the end.

Regards
ive just got a reply from marshall in the states it reads " thank you for your reply.unfortunatly we cannot supply you with the above order, at present Garlands inc are the main suppliers on your island they have extensive stocks and can deliver within the week,, thanks for enquiry............. oh well i tried

[Falconry Equipment International]

Hey ho brian, looks like you may have to use my price reduction plan :wink:

[Goldie]

I reckon as soon as they see your postal address they will refer you to garlands

:o Iwonder how I KNEW that :lol: Been there done that wore the t-shirt,
aint life a bitch! :P

[BrianM]

I reckon as soon as they see your postal address they will refer you to garlands

:o Iwonder how I KNEW that :lol: Been there done that wore the t-shirt,
aint life a bitch! :P
i thought that by putting SCOTLAND on my address i would have fooled the yanks,, maybe they arnt as thick as everyone makes out

[Falconry Equipment International]

perhaps you shoulfd ahave put near the western isles/ Norway :lol: :wink: :P :rolleyes:

[Goldie]

Or Airdrie by the sea Caledonia :wink:

[Falconry Equipment International]

Aye that'd do it

[BrianM]

Or Airdrie by the sea Caledonia :wink:

" see me ,,see the sea,,ah love the sea me,,,,"

[Shaun Byrne]

Or maybe get Weasel to order it and ship it over to you??????

[BrianM]

Or maybe get Weasel to order it and ship it over to you??????
mmmmmmm verrrrry inntresting Mr Bond

[Falconry Equipment International]

ahaaa! Just don't let himsend it to newcastle!

[BrianM]

i will make a decicion by the weekend ,, waiting on info on marshalls and falcon electronics through the post

[Falconry Equipment International]

brian whilst we jest, why do you need yuor telem now?

[BrianM]

just want to get it and get used to it before i need it,,, i phoned a guy who has a center with over 40 flying birds and asked him today what system he used and would he recommend it, he said he had a ben long , had it for over two years but hadnt needed to use it,, i dont want to be in the same position,,,my female harris has started to throw a few feathers so hoping she is starting to moult,,

[Falconry Equipment International]

yep so if this ids the cvase put her down to moult get a system at the ffair( on monday) preef as garlands amy do a deal by then. let us know hwatr you think( <BTW> whilst I am a southerner, I have strorng celtic blood coursing thro my veins( those that bhave seen me over teh winter will say I have VIKING blood!!!!!!)

[BrianM]

so after much phone calls, e mails and asking about i had decided to buy a marshall system, that is untill i spoke to someone in the know( independant) who told me that marshall units were falconry electronics units rebadged .. so here is the next question ive read quite afew good reports on this set up,, is this information correct??

[Goldie]

In a word NO :lol:

[BrianM]

ahh fur f%*&% sake......,, still waiting for marshalls price list Goldie

[Goldie]

Brian have you compared the two against each other on their websites?
Its def not a re-badged job. Marshalls do 5,10 and 100 channels.
F/Elec do 3&16. I do recall someone telling me the F/Elec was a clone of another unit, but I'm not sure. It WASN'T Marshalls tho.

[BrianM]

basically goldie iv narrowed it down to either falconry electronics or marshall,,ive not read anything bad about F E , where as marshall ive read anrnt always reliable

[Goldie]

As I said to you earlier,not sure it was this thread, but a mate has the F/E and finds it very good and eddie (F/E) is available on the phone should you need assistance. I use Marshalls and wouldn't swop it for anything, and Garlands have always been helpful,so its a case of you pay your money and you take your choice Ithink you will be happy with either.

PS You'll be happier with marshalls and it looks better :lol: :lol: :lol:

[BrianM]

is your second name Garland,,goldie :shock: :D and are you on commission :D

[Goldie]

:idea:

[Sprout]

I've used the Marshall for about 5 years now, never had any probs apart from one transmitter stopped working after storage inbetween seasons, Garlands replaced it immediately without quibble so can't complain. Very easy to use and I've found birds when I've needed to using it so I can recommend it easily. Must admit it does look VERY much like the FE model (I've got the old 3 channel marshall receiver)!!

[Falconry Equipment International]

I would second goldie, however my old Marsahll rec is a 16 channel as use by eddie. No probs But I belive and have tried the 5 & 10's & they are definately more user friendly.by the way on ebay ther are telemetry bags for marshalls 216:http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7146563604&ssPage Name=STRK:MESE:IT

[Hawkmaster]

I will only use Marshall from now on too!

[OutFlying]

BrianM. the original Marshall receiver (trx3 or trx16) were made by wildlife materials inc, They (marshalls) now make their own for the last 4-5 years this is the field marshall. Falconry Electronics now sell the wildlife materials receiver (trx3 or trx16) but use a different yagi. So if people say the old Marshall system was unreliable - it's the same unit as the falconry electronics. Hope this makes it clearer to yourself, I've used a field marshall for 5 seasons / rt+ transmitter without any problems - approx 1000 flights or more..............

[OutFlying]

I've used the Marshall for about 5 years now, never had any probs apart from one transmitter stopped working after storage inbetween seasons, Garlands replaced it immediately without quibble so can't complain. Very easy to use and I've found birds when I've needed to using it so I can recommend it easily. Must admit it does look VERY much like the FE model (I've got the old 3 channel marshall receiver)!!

It is the same unit - Wildlife Materials Inc - made it. So the falconry electronics is not a rebadge Marshalls or vice versa - It's a wildlife materials receiver with ever a marshall yagi or falconry electronics yagi. The newer Marshall unit is made totally by marshalls and is in my opinion a lot better than the old unit - I've own both and based my opinions on ease of use, better direction, better indiction of signal - a proper meter not LED lights (can't see them in sunlight), better batteries etc.

[Falconry Equipment International]

I woud secind that Outflying

[Mary Quite Contrary]

Apart from Northwoods where would i go in USA to buy Marshalls from.
Does any one have any other suppliers address?

[Falconry Equipment International]

direct to m,arshalls via their website

[Mary Quite Contrary]

Hi SJ
I couldnt find there website.
All i keep getting is Marshalls paving " do you want your driveway done"
Do you know the link

[OutFlying]

http://www.marshallradio.com/falconry/fhome.asp

[Moritz]

Hi Brian,
I just got a Marshall system from the USA, shipped it to germany. I could order you a system. It is less then from garlanders even with coustem. It takes about 2-3 weeks for it to arrive. But I order it from www.westernsporting.com . Tell me what you think. If anybody else would like to have a system from marshalls tell me.

Moritz

[Mary Quite Contrary]

Thank you for the link.

OK i have had a look and unless my calculations are wrong i make it
RT transmitter £108.00 216MHz
5 channel receiver £369.00
total £476.00
Garlands price is £615.00 for the above,
So buying from the states it will save you £139.00. but this isn't including the postage. So need to knock say another £15.00 from that.
If this is correct i would rather buy from garlands as they will then have to sort out any problems if they arise. Judging from remarks of other people there service is good when it comes to this.
Is what i have said about the price from garlands correct Brian.

Regards

[OutFlying]

plus import duty, plus vat. If you import you'll have no back up from this country, you'll need to send back to Marshall's. Garlands do offer good back up service with fast turnaround (if products in stock - but this is dictated by Marshall supply). They also have loan units if required whilst your's was away for repair for whatever reason.

£615 - seems low - £510 for 5 channel receiver and approx £145 for rt+ = £655 ish.

[Hawkmaster]

As I have said before I can do a 5 channel and RT+ for £560

[Goldie]

As I have said before I can do a 5 channel and RT+ for £560

Anyone thinking on buying a Marshall won't do better than THIS, unless you buy it in the states and sneak it back 8) . If Hawkmaster can offer a similar back up as garlands, then as far as I can see, its a no brainer

Contact him.

HM don't forget my 5% :lol: :lol: :lol:

[OutFlying]

As I have said before I can do a 5 channel and RT+ for £560

Is this on 216mhz ? or 173mhz, is it the latest rt+ ?

[BrianM]

wel i phoned them on wednesday for a price list and order form and was told it would be sent out that night ,,,, i am still waiting,,, i phoned falconry electronics on thursday for a price list ,, i got it friday morning ......i think i may be going to F E for my system

[Hawkmaster]

Is this on 216mhz ? or 173mhz, is it the latest rt+ ?
216 Mhz only

[Adam Barrett]

think i may be going to F E for my system

Good choice mate-you wont have any problems with their customer service and it is a great piece of kit aswell. :wink:

[OutFlying]

wel i phoned them on wednesday for a price list and order form and was told it would be sent out that night ,,,, i am still waiting,,, i phoned falconry electronics on thursday for a price list ,, i got it friday morning ......i think i may be going to F E for my system

BrianM, what is it that your still making your mind up on ? The reciever is exactly the same from Marshalls - it comes 5 , 10 or 15 channels. I thought your after a rt+ transmitter. You surely only after decide how many channels you want (5 is enough). You can order over the phone and have it in yours hands the day after.

Outflying.

ps don't wait for anything in the post. I've posted paperwork to my head office in Dunfermline, first class - it took 4 weeks to get there.

[BrianM]

well my thinking outflying is if the F E is just the same as the marshall, i can get the FE unit cheaper,, the guy from FE was good enough to talk to me for an hour on the phone, and sent me a booklet the next day whereas marshall didnt have anybodt available to talk to but took my name and address to send me a orderform,, which i havent got yet.. maybe its the scottish business man in me but FE is winning my vote just now

[Mary Quite Contrary]

As I have said before I can do a 5 channel and RT+ for £560

Kin hell thats cheep cheep.

HM if it breaks down or goes the way of the pear, what do i do with it!

Who fixes it ?

How long ?

Cheers

[Falconry Equipment International]

BM listen to OF.Hm I am still struggling witrh a marshall 16 channnel & it aint apatch on the FM series

[BrianM]

i am off tomorrow to visit varmint,what ever he uses and endorses i am going to buy ,, because my head is bustin, with it all....lol

[Falconry Equipment International]

sounds pretty good to me ( Varmint thats 2 lots of commsion :rolleyes: :lol: :yawinkle: )

[OutFlying]

well my thinking outflying is if the F E is just the same as the marshall, i can get the FE unit cheaper,, the guy from FE was good enough to talk to me for an hour on the phone, and sent me a booklet the next day whereas marshall didnt have anybodt available to talk to but took my name and address to send me a orderform,, which i havent got yet.. maybe its the scottish business man in me but FE is winning my vote just now

Brianm, you still haven't got it yet :o - no the FE system IS NOT THE SAME as a field marshall receiver. The OLD MARSHALL RECEIVER AND THE FE ARE MADE BY WILDLIFE MATERIALS INC - THE NEW MARSHALLS (4-5 YEARS OLD NOW) IS MADE SLOELY BY MARSHALLS. This newer marshall system is in my opinion far superior to the fe system - i've owned both.
Your best opition is to wait till the falconers fair and see both systems in the flesh - you'll have plenty of time whilst the displays are on :wink: :wink:

[BrianM]

no what i ment was the two systems are much the same perfomance wise ,, are they not??

[OutFlying]

no

[BrianM]

i ve just been at ades place and it is beutifull lot of birds shown every nook and cranny of his place,,,, any way he gave me a quick demo of the FE systen working and it was bang on .. so i think i will be going for that system,,,the only thing that concerned me (and quite frankly worried me )was if you go onto his website there is a picture of ade,, when you actually meet him you will notice that he is about 10 years younger in the flesh... come on whats going on ,,,lol

[Fenman46]

Hawkmaster pm sent

[Wightwings]

As I have said before I can do a 5 channel and RT+ for £560

but aint yours an american import too HM??

[Wightwings]

what price you paying Brian? I will be looking for one before next season but suitable for a Gos not longwing so dont need the same kind of range

[Falconry Equipment International]

what price you paying Brian? I will be looking for one before next season but suitable for a Gos not longwing so dont need the same kind of range
yeah but you'll need more defractrion esp if your gos is on a kill in a brook/ gully etc etc :wink:

[Moritz]

Hi Guys,
I just practiced using my new marshall reciver and power max transmitter. I used them for about 1,5 hourse and now the red light of the reciver is flashing. What the ****? Is that normal? Should the batteries not last far longer? How long do your field marshall reciver batteries last?

THX

Moritz

[BrianM]

what price you paying Brian? I will be looking for one before next season but suitable for a Gos not longwing so dont need the same kind of range
yeah but you'll need more defractrion esp if your gos is on a kill in a brook/ gully etc etc :wink:
it came to £635 Chris, 3 channel receiver,trx 12 transmitter, carry bag, 3 tailmounts,and P&P

[Wightwings]

not bad you sem to get a fair bit for your money

[BrianM]

as i said varmint gave me a demo on sunday and i thought it was the dogs,, you also get a 3 year warranty, have alook at the website,, its www.falconryelectronics.co.uk

[OutFlying]

Hi Guys,
I just practiced using my new marshall reciver and power max transmitter. I used them for about 1,5 hourse and now the red light of the reciver is flashing. What the ****? Is that normal? Should the batteries not last far longer? How long do your field marshall reciver batteries last?

THX

Moritz

Moritz, do you mean you had it switched on constantly for 1 1/2 hours ?
What type of batteries are you using ?
I get a season out of a set of batteries, switch it on - get the direction - switch it off - get closer switch it on - move closer ( I'm sure you get the idea).

[OutFlying]

Moritz, The red light will be constantly on when your batteries are going flat, it will flash when receiving the transmitter signal. Turn on the receiver without the transmitter being on - is the red light on or off ?

[Moritz]

I get the idea, THX. This is my first oven telemetry system so I still have to figure out how to use it. I will now do it like you said outflying, makes sence. I will buy a new set of batteries.

THX Moritz

[OutFlying]

Glad to help

[Hawkmaster]

but aint yours an american import too HM??
NO

yeah but you'll need more defractrion esp if your gos is on a kill in a brook/ gully etc etc
That is why you should buy the best you can afford. Marshall.

the red light of the reciver is flashing. What the ****? Is that normal?
They last a whole season usually, unless of course you spend a long time wondering around on full search. I supplement mine with the power from the cigar lighter in the car.

[OutFlying]

HM, without putting the batteries back into mine and from memory - the red light comes on constantly when battery is low, but will flash when receiving the pulse from the transmitter. I get a season out the batteries, and it is used every outing, 4-5 days a week, use duracell batteries.

[Wightwings]

As I have said before I can do a 5 channel and RT+ for £560

Kin hell thats cheep cheep.

HM if it breaks down or goes the way of the pear, what do i do with it!

Who fixes it ?

How long ?

Cheers

any answer on these questions yet HM......the after sales seems to be a big seeling factor.

cheers

[Fenman46]

WIGHTWINGS Kin hell thats cheep cheep.

HM if it breaks down or goes the way of the pear, what do i do with it!
Who fixes it ?
How long ?

YES you have me asking the same questions?? Are we better of staying U.K incase the set breaks down~?its the service which is the most important item on a set of tracking gear,ie if you cant get a problem with the setup sorted out,,,, why have it apart from your bird, its probably the next most expensive item you buy :?:

[Hawkmaster]

Sorry I missed it guys but they would be send back to the USA at worse, at best an exchange.

[Falconry Equipment International]

WIGHTWINGS Kin hell thats cheep cheep.

HM if it breaks down or goes the way of the pear, what do i do with it!
Who fixes it ?
How long ?

YES you have me asking the same questions?? Are we better of staying U.K incase the set breaks down~?its the service which is the most important item on a set of tracking gear,ie if you cant get a problem with the setup sorted out,,,, why have it apart from your bird, its probably the next most expensive item you buy :?:
FENMAN46 if you are thinking of getting telemetry in our area, I suggest strongly that you get 173 mhz as that is what most of the guys round here have got( so we can scan for each otherz hawks)

[Wightwings]

well chuffed picked up a 10 channel receiver plus a powermax transmitter today for the right price..........second hand but in almost mint condition :D

[Finnish]

I bet no one got there Marshall cheaper than me Chris. :lol:

[OutFlying]

don't brag about it - I feel sick

[Finnish]

Check this out???????

http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=2839&highlight=winners

[OutFlying]

I hope your not embrassed when you switch it on, and think " I shouldn't have bought a raffle ticket, Garlands might go bust " 8)

[BrianM]

:shock: GIT :D

[EddieT]

I've just been reading through this post and realised that the TRX 3 channel receiver that I bought from Marshals 3 years ago is now the same receiver being marketed by Falconry Electronics. I have no experience of the new Marshal receiver but I can vouch for the reliability and performance of the TRX kit and so can the birds that are presently in my aviary at least one of which wouldn't still be here without it!

The amazing thing is that I bought this 6 years ago along with an RT transimitter for £650, now the receiver is only £319 from FE, so add on the cost of a transmitter (£150 ish) and it still represents nearly a £200 saving against when I bought it. That such good telemetry kit can be bought at ever more reasonable prices makes it almost inexcusable for anyone to be flying a bird without it!

[OutFlying]

Is that £319 with a yaggi ?. The rt+ use to be £195 - now it is £145. The price of telemetry is going down.

[Gaz]

Only while the dollar flops dude :!: :mrgreen:

[OutFlying]

I've just been reading through this post and realised that the TRX 3 channel receiver that I bought from Marshals 3 years ago is now the same receiver being marketed by Falconry Electronics. I have no experience of the new Marshal receiver but I can vouch for the reliability and performance of the TRX kit and so can the birds that are presently in my aviary at least one of which wouldn't still be here without it!

The amazing thing is that I bought this 6 years ago along with an RT transimitter for £650, now the receiver is only £319 from FE, so add on the cost of a transmitter (£150 ish) and it still represents nearly a £200 saving against when I bought it. That such good telemetry kit can be bought at ever more reasonable prices makes it almost inexcusable for anyone to be flying a bird without it!

Just had a look its £459 with the yaggi. A saving of £41.