Lanner pre training for Partridge?

[GriffMJ]

Hi All

I will be attempting to enter my Lanner on game this year (for the first time). My intended quarry is partridge (English) and I will be out with my friend and his pointer.

I have always been a lure falconer so my learning curve will be steep .... before I get shouts of "why a Lanner" etc then let me just nip it in the bud. Lanners are a falcon that I am familiar with and have a passion for... I realise that they are not the best falcon for our climate etc compared to the "Hybrids" that are available that are infinatley better as a starter game hawk. I am resolute on starting with a Lanner to eventually get to a Pere tiercel then my ultimate ...... a falcon.

I would like some advice on pre training for game before actually entering?!

[Hawkmaster]

Griff, there is nothing wrong with a Lanner and you are able to catch partridge with them I am sure. I however have not done it here in the UK, but have taken francolin with them and they are actually very similar.

The main thing is to work on the fittness first and then move on the the good stuff of catching. Do some long luring and lure work to start and here we are going to get people telling me I am mad but luring a gamehawk does NOT lower the pitch.

We will talk again from there but it may have to be by PM. :lol:

[Falconry Equipment International]

Actually Paul I agree to start off with :rolleyes: stoop the nuts off thge hawk, give it a rest then put the kite up so that the hawk has an 'easy flight' just making pitch. only do this though for the 1st few weeks. real rpobs you are going to have griff is with the vageries of british weather and the fact that labbers are like blotting paper :yawinkle:

[GriffMJ]

Real rpobs you are going to have griff is with the vageries of british weather and the fact that lanners are like blotting paper

lol...your not wrong!

I will be using a kite as part of her pitch training. I use a pole lure, i find that I can control the falcon in flight on the horizontal and really make her work for the catch.... I use a padded lure with partridge wings ..... i find it also gives you more time to "see" her "at" the lure as well....to see how she is striking.

[Falconry Equipment International]

lI will be using a kite as part of her pitch training.
Be really careful here I hav esold 1000's of kites & kite training kits over the last 15 years or so & it is amazing how many folk complain that as soon as their hawk is of the kite it flies around at tree level. Nothing like getting out there and doin it! :roll:

[Mary Quite Contrary]

Good luck Griff

[Falconry Equipment International]

he'll need it :!: :rolleyes: :yawinkle:

[BarneyAndMonty]

lol...your not wrong!

I will be using a kite as part of her pitch training. I use a pole lure, i find that I can control the falcon in flight on the horizontal and really make her work for the catch.... I use a padded lure with partridge wings ..... i find it also gives you more time to "see" her "at" the lure as well....to see how she is striking.

Hi guys

I've just been delving around in the bowels of this forum, I found mention of a pole lure. What is that then? In all the books I've read there is no mention :?:

I must say there is some good stuff down here, just a bit dusty:!: :!:

[GriffMJ]

Hi guys

I've just been delving around in the bowels of this forum, I found mention of a pole lure. What is that then? In all the books I've read there is no mention :?:

I must say there is some good stuff down here, just a bit dusty:!: :!:

Lol....you are digging into the mists of time!

I have been using a pole lure for a year.... and with great success :) My timing with a swung lure is not what it used to be.... I also have a back problem that does not allow me to twist to my right. The pole lure helps me by slowing all the action down at my end without any loss of speed and momentum at the falcons end.... its great fun .... it has also been an invaluable asset whilst Gamehawking ...as one shake of the pole would bring an out of position "Sabs" back over the top again.

[Yarak1]

Hi Griff, just bear in mind that the lanner is not a real high flying bird naturally..............

My lanner falcon waits on at 2/250 ft she has taken partridge and bloody good at it..........

She is now an 8yr old.........very experienced....... pays off to keep your bird for as long as possible...........she's with me for life.....

[BarneyAndMonty]

Lol....you are digging into the mists of time!

I have been using a pole lure for a year.... and with great success :) My timing with a swung lure is not what it used to be.... I also have a back problem that does not allow me to twist to my right. The pole lure helps me by slowing all the action down at my end without any loss of speed and momentum at the falcons end.... its great fun .... it has also been an invaluable asset whilst Gamehawking ...as one shake of the pole would bring an out of position "Sabs" back over the top again.

Hi Griff
It's good stuff down here!!!

So if I understand you correctly it is just a pole with a lure attached to the end of it?
I've just started the lure swinging learning process, much to the entertainment of my wife, kids and the bemusement of my neighbours( not forgetting the poor falcon that's probably in rehab. after my falconry course a few weeks back:rolleyes: ). Is this something else I should learn prior to the arrival of my falcon later this year? Or is it a replacement piece of equipment for people, like you, with back problems??

Any pictures out there?

David

[GriffMJ]

Hi Griff
It's good stuff down here!!!

So if I understand you correctly it is just a pole with a lure attached to the end of it?
I've just started the lure swinging learning process, much to the entertainment of my wife, kids and the bemusement of my neighbours( not forgetting the poor falcon that's probably in rehab. after my falconry course a few weeks back:rolleyes: ). Is this something else I should learn prior to the arrival of my falcon later this year? Or is it a replacement piece of equipment for people, like you, with back problems??

Any pictures out there?

David

Hi David

Like the swung lure... it takes practice..... but if you are a beginner and ablebodied then I recommend that you carry on with the swung lure :) I would still use the swung lure if I could as its traditional and also easier to carry. The pole lure is easy to make.... simply buy a cheap three piece fishing rod with a 4-5ft handle end (use that only)..... then attach a sampoo swivel to the end... and then attach 7ft of lure line with the lure. The distance between you and the falcon extends to a safe distance and the amount of effort at your end of the pole is minimal compared to the speed of the lure at the other end.... the falcon will not be able to carry for any distance either :)