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OutFlying
08-04-2005, 07:00 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=90871&item=7146628 300&rd=1

Not the best design or material to make a hawk box out of.




HawkMan69UK
08-04-2005, 07:03 PM
i seen that on there ..i thought the same......but i dont know what number you need it to be set on to cook a hawk...an hour or less maybe in the back off the truck :?:

OutFlying
08-04-2005, 07:07 PM
it might be harder to get the hawk in, that has to wait till you drop the silent metal drawbridge down whilst it sits patiently on the perch.

It would be alright for defrosting chicks if you forgot the night before :lol:

Hawkmaster
08-04-2005, 07:30 PM
But then in winter, when the hawks are flown, it is not very hot in the UK?

OutFlying
08-04-2005, 07:38 PM
I didn't realise you'd use a different box when you started a fresh hawk in July or August / September. Is there a free wooden or plastic one for these months.

Only joking......

IAmTheWeasel
08-04-2005, 07:47 PM
I don't see any problems with this giant hood other that it needs a falconer with half a ****ing brain to not leave it in the sun....I include computer fans on all my giant hoods so they can plug into the cig lighter for circulation. I think the only thing I see wrong with that GH is the persons taste in color.
Weasel

HawkMan69UK
08-04-2005, 07:51 PM
horrible mankey grreen not yor fav colour then weasel :lol: but it does not take long anything metel in the car to get hot even when your driving computer fan excelent idea im taking one out of the pc now :wink:

IAmTheWeasel
08-04-2005, 07:55 PM
Yea, can't say I would use one made from aluminum, but I do know several falconers that have custom boxes mounted in the bed of their pick up trucks and they are made from aluminum. One I can think of lives in South Texas where it is routinely above 43 c.
As for the green manky look.....I'll pass :lol:

Gaz
08-04-2005, 07:56 PM
Told you that allready....nob :mrgreen:

OutFlying
08-04-2005, 08:03 PM
I don't see any problems with this giant hood other that it needs a falconer with half a ****ing brain to not leave it in the sun....I include computer fans on all my giant hoods so they can plug into the cig lighter for circulation. I think the only thing I see wrong with that GH is the persons taste in color.
Weasel

You wouldn't be able to open the door whislt it was still in the vehicle (no head room above box in most Uk vehicles). Also while placing hawk in box your spare hand would be holding the door upright, then if your hawk made a break for it while closing the door the guillotine action wouldn't be advised. Apart from these issues it's a brilliant design....

Wightwings
08-04-2005, 08:12 PM
found this one earlier. asked the guy about the weight of it he dont know but a lot better that the goddam green shed. saw that the other day. Crud

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7146923033&ssPage Name=STRK:MEWA:IT

only 5 mins up the road from me to

OutFlying
08-04-2005, 08:27 PM
are you after one like this, I got an old one to get rid of - exactly the same. Now use a polyprop plastic box.

Wightwings
08-04-2005, 08:30 PM
truth is i could make one but at the mo may wait and see what's on offer at the fair. :D thanks tho OF

IAmTheWeasel
08-04-2005, 08:40 PM
I didn't scroll down on the page to see the full design of that green wonder. It is a **** design isn't it!?! I have never seen anyone make such a door as that....How much harder could it be to simply add a couple of hinges huh?

IAmTheWeasel
08-04-2005, 08:42 PM
In that wooden box, I would ask him to raise the perch up a bit as it look too low and that tail on most raptors would be in the ****.
Weasel

OutFlying
08-04-2005, 08:55 PM
I didn't scroll down on the page to see the full design of that green wonder. It is a **** design isn't it!?! I have never seen anyone make such a door as that....How much harder could it be to simply add a couple of hinges huh?

I thought you'd seen that part, it was made for a three handed falconer.
One hand to hold the hawk, one for door, one for the leash.

Also imagine the rattle on the door, echoing round the box, no catches to provide a firm closure. Also the light ingress due to no baffles.

Apart from that, put me down for two.

OutFlying
08-04-2005, 09:04 PM
also forgot about the condensation on a cold night if you stayed out for any reason.

put me down for three.

Falconry Equipment International
08-04-2005, 09:39 PM
funnily enough when `i started getting O/night/ travel boxes made fro both accipiters/ broadwings & falcons the 1st batch were great, made from white PVC? stuff but vthe second batch the made for me was black taht I refused delivery of because of possible heat implications. well known falconer was concerned about condensation but have bnever had probs myself

OutFlying
08-04-2005, 09:50 PM
have black one myself, no light ingress at all, no problems with condensation or heat. Big vent holes at top / back of box with large baffle to prevent light ingress. Found black to make a darker box, plastic quite a good insulator and in the car, not a great deal of difference between white and black plastic regarding heat

Falconry Equipment International
08-04-2005, 09:57 PM
Hi outflying the problem is not with sensible folk like you &I , & many others on the llist, but as and equipment provider , we trry to make sure all equipment is idiot proof. I know if I sell a black box to somone they are going to take thir harris out for a drive in the midday sun in the middle of summer and whilste any colured box will not stop the deimise of hawk/falcon surely balck / metal will help accelerate this

NightOwl
08-04-2005, 11:10 PM
any pics of that hood you're getting rid of Outflying.

OutFlying
08-04-2005, 11:32 PM
any pics of that hood you're getting rid of Outflying.

Can do later in the week, its at a friends house. Made from wood suitable for a male gos / harris - that's what i made it for. But has transported bigger hawks.

Shaun Byrne
09-04-2005, 07:23 AM
found this one earlier. asked the guy about the weight of it he dont know but a lot better that the goddam green shed. saw that the other day. Crud

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7146923033&ssPage Name=STRK:MEWA:IT

only 5 mins up the road from me to

The door on this one is hinged the wrong side, the perch seems too low and narrow (diameter) and the vent holes are more like hawk windows :D

Wightwings
09-04-2005, 09:34 AM
The door on this one is hinged the wrong side, the perch seems too low and narrow (diameter) and the vent holes are more like hawk windows

apart from that its perfect................RPMSL......... :lol: :lol:

Goldie
09-04-2005, 09:52 AM
The door on this one is hinged the wrong side, the perch seems too low and narrow (diameter) and the vent holes are more like hawk windows

apart from that its perfect................RPMSL......... :lol: :lol:

Yeah but it's suitable for a right handed falconer who flys a smallfooted hawk with no tail and wears a hood :lol: :lol:

Bubo
09-04-2005, 12:26 PM
this may just be a tad off topic but i'll get right back on tracks after but do owls get car sickness? A mate of mine has a european eagle owl and a barn owl. he uses one of those humongous dog/animal carriers (one each) but the poor owls could not stand up properly. He annoyed me so much with these boxes, i built him one (and engraved it hahahaha i just cant leave any wood unengraved).

i thought it was down to the way the owls travelled in those boxes. the poor owls just seem to come out of the box all drunk like and it takes them over an hour or so to sort of settle and come round. He hasnt yet tried my box so i cant tell if was the travelling conditions. I asked him the most obvious one about the ventilation in his box and he said there is plenty. Does anyone else have any birds that dont like to travel? if so what do you do to help them apart from no more travelling before you smarty pants decide to answer :lol: )
bubo