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Goldie
10-04-2005, 04:23 PM
Just had the night from hell, my bitch went into labour at midnight last night, caught me unaware as she wasn't due till tuesday. She was a maiden bitch and for such a clever dog, she didn't have a clue! The first two pups were breach and she would insist on standing up so had to make sure I caught them :lol: after that she was quite happy to lie down and let them suckle. Pup number 3 was delivered in the right way, and the bitch didn't even acknowledge it was there, left it lying at her ass, still in the bag with all the gubbings attached so I had to do the midwife bit (no comments please). This was repeated another 5 times before she eventually decided to take an active part and do the next three herself.
She took 10hrs in total to complete her litter of 6 bitches 5 dogs and now is so posessive you wouldn't believe it.
It's just as well she isn't that lazy in the field or she would have died a virgin :o :o :o




OutFlying
10-04-2005, 06:17 PM
11 pups, that's a fair sized litter. Hope all goes well with them.

Outflying.

Varmint
10-04-2005, 06:20 PM
Nice one mate im delighted for you, Munsterlanders? now if i could add another bit on to my kennel and then..............?

OutFlying
10-04-2005, 06:38 PM
Goldie, what differences are there in the field with Munsterlanders compared to the more common continental hpr's use for falconry ?

Gary.B
10-04-2005, 09:53 PM
Well done, 11 pups, she must be knackered, you'll have a few weeks before the fun starts, good luck!

CastleFalconry
10-04-2005, 10:12 PM
Good luck! Remember your house the way it used to be!!!!!!

Goldie
10-04-2005, 11:37 PM
Goldie, what differences are there in the field with Munsterlanders compared to the more common continental hpr's use for falconry ?

Outflying, rather a difficult question for me to answer as I only have limited experience of the other breeds in so far as I have only seen them work on a few occasions. What I have found with the munsterlanders is they tend to be very steady and methodical in their work. They don't go at 100mph although they can be deceptivlely quick. They will work rough and thick cover and have no problems with water. A dog that will work for anyone and will wok for hours. This may be because they don't go at 100.
As to the alternatives, I can only state from experiences of dogs Ihave been out with, and had to consider how well they had been trained.
I found the Vizla to lack drive and not like thick cover. (seen two)
The Weimaraner I saw was very headstrong and didn't appear to have a great attention span.
The GSPs I found to be good in general although they lacked a bit in thick cover.
The GWP as above but didn't mind the cover
Brittany, my best mate has one and she's a little cracker and if you want to work hedgerows gorse and such they are ideal, but their size lets them down for what I require.
To sum up :- apart from the fact they are all capable of living up to their name HPR some perform better tasks than others. I require a dog which
(A) has a coat suitable for the harsher weather up here (munsterlander, gwp, brittany). (B) a dog that will work just about any terrain, upland or lowland, heather etc. (munsterlander or gwp). (C) a dog that is suited to the ground I have available to me. some of the fields/hills are full of fearn and reeds 3ft tall and a tail that acts as a flag is very beneficial. (Munsterlander). I also think they are one of the most stylish dogs I have seen in the field.

Obviously these are only my own findings and opinions, and I'm sure I havn't seen the best of the other HPRs but each to their own as long as it does the job you require.

Goldie
10-04-2005, 11:42 PM
Good luck! Remember your house the way it used to be!!!!!!

You mean the way it was before I bred 8 litters of Siberian Huskies.
I have three brood bitches :lol: :lol: :lol:

OutFlying
11-04-2005, 09:19 AM
Thanks for the reply Goldie,
I've seen most pointing dogs working ( all you mentioned ) with the exception of a setter, wire haired vizla and a munsterlander. Seen 2 good vizla's work with plenty of drive, but not used in cover.

Goldie
15-04-2005, 04:53 PM
Thanks for the reply Goldie,
I've seen most pointing dogs working ( all you mentioned ) with the exception of a setter, wire haired vizla and a munsterlander. Seen 2 good vizla's work with plenty of drive, but not used in cover.


Hi Outflying, never seen the wire haired vizla either, never gave it any consideration at the time I got the Munsterlander, don't know why :?
but I'm quite sure it would face a fair bit of cover.

SSL
18-04-2005, 11:13 PM
Just had the night from hell, my bitch went into labour at midnight last night,

Large or Small?

Steve.

Goldie
18-04-2005, 11:43 PM
Just had the night from hell, my bitch went into labour at midnight last night,

Large or Small?

Steve.

Large Munsterlanders