View Full Version : How many birds?
Peregrynne
16-04-2005, 09:28 PM
I am not sure if this topic has been covered before, so I will ask just in case it hasn't.
How many birds do you think a person can fly and give enough time to each bird? I am talking in all situations here, hunting, lure flying, demonstration/education?
Looking forward to hearing your opinions.
Pere
:roll: :supz: :drinkers:
OutFlying
16-04-2005, 09:31 PM
Hunting - one, if you have to work as well
Saker-Clive
16-04-2005, 09:33 PM
Well me ol' mate, you know ~I've got 3. The HH is down to moult so I don't have to worry about him at the mo, both falcons are flown, every day weather permitting BUT I can fly the Perlin in more damp conditions compared to the Saker.
bearing in mind, I don't work at the moment, I feel very lucky; I don't think I could honestly say any more birds would be viable.
OutFlying
16-04-2005, 09:38 PM
Hunting - one, if you have to work as well
Just like to add if you want a good one, if not fly as many as you want - they won't be any good though.
ColdZero
17-04-2005, 12:21 AM
You can fly many harris' at once, you may have a hunting gos and falcon, one for summer one for winter. I'd say 2 then. But for most people 1.
OutFlying
17-04-2005, 12:31 AM
how many can one person fly in one season ? and obtain good results ?
RabbitHawker
17-04-2005, 07:57 AM
I'd like to disagree, it really depends on two things
1. your work situation
2. your committment
I fly a cast of male harris's at rabbits 3or 4 days a week through the season, we finished the season with 150+ head of quarry, and many people have commented that they are among the best they have seen flying,. If I am not flying them for 2 days they are high jumped for at least I of the days, up to 120X to me on a step ladder. I also fly 2 hybrid falcons at rooks/crows, one is exercised daily through the season, the other is prone to going off and killing if worked too hard to the lure, so is high jumped more.
So I would say 3/4 birds can be flown with the right job, plenty of land and commitment, but at the end of the season I am exhasuted. I have just been looking at my tiercel gyr/pere, and he's dropped 1/2 of his flight feathers, so hopefully not long 'till we hit the crows again....
Saker-Clive
17-04-2005, 07:59 AM
Different birds for different quarry species. 1 for a game hawk and 1 for a crow hawk or pest control; 2 or 3 hours flying each bird, more than enough.
1 bird to hunt and 1 bird to 'pleasure fly or display work.
OutFlying
17-04-2005, 11:04 AM
Gaz, in the winter (around me anyway) it goes dark at 3.30 / 4 o clock - i'd finished work early and squeeze a couple of hours in with the gos. Don't know how I could fly 2 totally different species of hawk/falcon and do it justice. Flying 2 harris would be possible because they'd be flown at the same time.
If you work then flying a collection would be hard work to produce a good one.
Maybe these people go lamping or something ? I like to see the time scales for the day - i.e time to work , end of work, first hawks out then second set out.
ColdZero
17-04-2005, 03:17 PM
i easily have enough time to 'fly' 2, but also thats enough time to have 1 good fit hawk, which is by far better.
Hawkmaster
17-04-2005, 07:34 PM
RabbitHawker where are you from?
I agree with Gaz, but must confess to doing two this coming season.
Finnish
17-04-2005, 07:46 PM
One..properly :mrgreen:
But most people i no fly two.
James_Falconry1
17-04-2005, 08:22 PM
i have a friend that is a professioal falconer and runs falconry days and courses and sells equipment and last season as seasons before flew 3 intermewed hawks a red hawk (Peregrines) at phesant a gyr/pereXSaker to the lure and a harris hawk. Then there where the 3 dogs. And they all get the time they need each day. When he has the 1 week off a year holiday i house sit and it is like a military operation. I need a holiday after i have house sat for a week. Then wen he comes back from holiday another 53 weeks starts again 7days a week. When people come on there falconry days they believe that some1 picks up there hawk and it just flies and dont realise the work that goes in to the prep and manning of the hawk.
Jimmy
Falconry Equipment International
17-04-2005, 08:47 PM
i have a friend that is a professioal falconer and runs falconry days and courses and sells equipment and last season as seasons before flew 3 intermewed hawks a red hawk (Peregrines) at phesant a gyr/pereXSaker to the lure and a harris hawk. Then there where the 3 dogs. And they all get the time they need each day. When he has the 1 week off a year holiday i house sit and it is like a military operation. I need a holiday after i have house sat for a week. Then wen he comes back from holiday another 53 weeks starts again 7days a week. When people come on there falconry days they believe that some1 picks up there hawk and it just flies and dont realise the work that goes in to the prep and manning of the hawk.
Jimmy 8) 8) :roll: :roll: :rolleyes: :yawinkle:
OutFlying
18-04-2005, 09:31 AM
Gaz, in the winter (around me anyway) it goes dark at 3.30 / 4 o clock - i'd finished work early and squeeze a couple of hours in with the gos. Don't know how I could fly 2 totally different species of hawk/falcon and do it justice. Flying 2 harris would be possible because they'd be flown at the same time.
If you work then flying a collection would be hard work to produce a good one.
Maybe these people go lamping or something ? I like to see the time scales for the day - i.e time to work , end of work, first hawks out then second set out.
Anyone going to post how to do a normal days hunting in December when the nights draw in if you work ? When flying multiple bop's species.
Wouldnt have thought so :lol:
for me personally i could deal with two (my barn owl and my common buzzard) but only because i decided to give up work to look after my three children. If i worked full time i would also just go for the one bird.
bubo
OutFlying
18-04-2005, 05:27 PM
Please describe your days hunting with these 2 species of raptor ?
Hi outflying if you are talking to me then my fingers worked faster than my brain, i did mean to add that i will be able to deal with two birds when i get my common buzzie. at the moment i only have my barny (sorry bout that). my barn owl flies very early in the morning (like at 6 am) and i bring him home round about 7 (cos hubby has to leave for work) then i would have the morning or afternoon to take my cb out. that is the plan anyway :P
bubo
Wightwings
18-04-2005, 07:15 PM
seriuosly one dependant on bird. I have just moved on my FHH because i am getting my first Eyass Gos and dont feel i can justify the time for both.
We still have a MHH but he is my wifes and she will fly him mopst times.
We have had many more birds but primerily for display work and my wife did the flying FULL time. We flew a cast of MHH togethor very successfully in the field and on many occasions either of us would go out alone and fly them togethor as a team.I would recommend that experience to anyone who can its a fantastic feeling calling in two birds and they both come in and sit next to each other on the glove.
plus the relay work is a sight top behold.anyway i digress
Its already been said......commitments and bird type dictate.
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