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Sean
17-04-2005, 11:15 AM
Neil Forbes said
'Transport or carrying boxes can form a particular risk to new birds. Typically such boxes were made of wood and for want of space, (bearing in mind they tend to be used infrequently), they are commonly stored in damp garages or sheds. On the occasions they are used, they are placed in a warm house or car. Under these conditions, the rich layer of spores which have been growing on the inside of the box dry out, and with the presence of the bird in the box are stirred up nicely ready for the bird to inhale a fatal dose. Travelling boxes should preferably be made of plastic or metal, they should be kept clean and dry, and cleaned and disinfected prior to use.'
in an article about Aspergillosis in Raptors

Are wooden boxes really this dnagerous?


http://www.intfalconer.com/back_issues/9article.html




OutFlying
17-04-2005, 11:40 AM
Sean,
Use your common sense with the storage of the wooden box, I'm sure you'll know if it damp or not.

I now use a plastic one, easier to clean / disinfect and you can leave it outside and it won't rot etc.

Sean
17-04-2005, 12:34 PM
I suppose a car boot would be ok? the box wont be moved from their

Shaun Byrne
17-04-2005, 12:44 PM
3 good coats of yacht varnish on the inside and clean regularly.

Last years with no problems to health!!

Wightwings
17-04-2005, 01:03 PM
agreed, however the wooden one burn too easy........its a long story....the bloody missus.......drives me mad sometimes.....well all the time.. :rolleyes: :lol:

BrianM
17-04-2005, 02:24 PM
agreed, however the wooden one burn too easy........its a long story....the bloody missus.......drives me mad sometimes.....well all the time.. :rolleyes: :lol:

theres NO way your getting away without telling us the story chris ,, :D

Wightwings
17-04-2005, 03:09 PM
cleared out the old poly tunnel a couple of weeks back and lit a bonfire out the back near the barns to burn the old rubbish on, ie old potting table etc.
mentioned to Carol a few days before i fancied getting rid of the two carry boxes i had made from ply, planed, varnished, brass hinges the lot etc in the summer and getting a couple of these new lightweight ones, poss from the fair. Anyhow i lit the fire and after a while the guy who sets all the bird scarers in the feilds that ajoin our house turned up so i wondered over to talk to him whilst Carol merrilly stocked the fire. After ten mins he said dont look now chris but your wellies are going on the fire!!!?? i turned and saw Carol throwing my old steel toed work bobs on the fire on top of BOTH GODDAM BOXS :shock: :shock:

I quickly said my goodbyes and ambled/ legged it over but they were both happily on fire, STILL with he astro perches in STILL with the brass hinges etc on.........AAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH :x

"well she said" after my polite enquiries as to why they were on the fire "you did say they were going" :roll: after several eventfull minutes of trying to explain i was "thinking" about it she still remains convinced i told her i was getting rid of them asap and had not told her otherwise.

Sold Faith om Friday and had totake the poor girl upto the guy in a large cardboard box.......how undignified

women...You gotta love em guys are they will drive you mad :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :goodman:

Sean
17-04-2005, 04:41 PM
hmm ww, so y did u sell the female and not the male?

Wightwings
17-04-2005, 04:54 PM
she was mine and im getting a Gos instead. The male is Carol's bird.

nothing suspicious :roll: :D

Falconry Equipment International
17-04-2005, 05:21 PM
cleared out the old poly tunnel a couple of weeks back and lit a bonfire out the back near the barns to burn the old rubbish on, ie old potting table etc.
mentioned to Carol a few days before i fancied getting rid of the two carry boxes i had made from ply, planed, varnished, brass hinges the lot etc in the summer and getting a couple of these new lightweight ones, poss from the fair. Anyhow i lit the fire and after a while the guy who sets all the bird scarers in the feilds that ajoin our house turned up so i wondered over to talk to him whilst Carol merrilly stocked the fire. After ten mins he said dont look now chris but your wellies are going on the fire!!!?? i turned and saw Carol throwing my old steel toed work bobs on the fire on top of BOTH GODDAM BOXS :shock: :shock:

I quickly said my goodbyes and ambled/ legged it over but they were both happily on fire, STILL with he astro perches in STILL with the brass hinges etc on.........AAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH :x

"well she said" after my polite enquiries as to why they were on the fire "you did say they were going" :roll: after several eventfull minutes of trying to explain i was "thinking" about it she still remains convinced i told her i was getting rid of them asap and had not told her otherwise.

Sold Faith om Friday and had totake the poor girl upto the guy in a large cardboard box.......how undignified

women...You gotta love em guys are they will drive you mad :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :goodman:
WW this has led me to post a new listing titled "
Why the falconry/saddlery equipment I make is so pricey!" I hope you enjoy and at least there is cameradery out tehre with you :lol: :lol:

Sean
17-04-2005, 05:47 PM
she was mine and im getting a Gos instead. The male is Carol's bird.

nothing suspicious :roll: :D
i didnt mean that their was anythign suspicious i just meant did u think the male is betetr than teh female?

Wightwings
17-04-2005, 06:04 PM
oops sorry Sean :oops:

Horses for courses on the birds tho. Depends on your land, quarry, flyingstyle etc etc . For a first bird tho i would say the male is better primarely because they are a more versatile, agile bird. :D just my opinion

Sean
17-04-2005, 06:07 PM
ok :)

Kevin Massey
17-04-2005, 07:03 PM
sean,

an american falconer mailed me a pattern to make a box out of correx, they are used over there a lot,

by all accounts they are very light and also easy to clean.
i'll mail it to you if you want?

kev

Shaun Byrne
17-04-2005, 07:14 PM
she was mine and im getting a Gos instead. The male is Carol's bird.

nothing suspicious :roll: :D

Saw her today WW, lovely looking bird, nice feet.

Sean
17-04-2005, 07:22 PM
i got it i think m8, is it the 1 from toby bradshaws site?

Wightwings
17-04-2005, 07:23 PM
she is a nice bird aint she. must admit tho shaun nothing more depressing than an empty aviary :cry: How is she doing? I will send Mick a mail later just wanted to let her settle in before mythering him.

Shaun Byrne
17-04-2005, 07:28 PM
She's doing fine mate. She was bowed out with the other HH with hundreds of people wandering about, she never flinched.

Wightwings
17-04-2005, 07:33 PM
FANTASTIC. thanks for that. Got a feeling she will turn out to be a better bird than i was giving her justice to be. :oops: When we met the other Mick at heathrow she wasnt fazed in the slightest. Carol has been manning her all week without so much as a bate, considering she has been more or less untouched for over a month.
Got her lad out today to clean out the aviary he was like a wild bird.

Anyway dont want to get into trouble for highjacking the thread again. :D

Mary Quite Contrary
17-04-2005, 10:20 PM
sean,

an american falconer mailed me a pattern to make a box out of correx, they are used over there a lot,

by all accounts they are very light and also easy to clean.
i'll mail it to you if you want?

kev

Mass what is correx? and can you PM the plans please

Hawkmaster
17-04-2005, 10:25 PM
I have used a correx one and it is very god and light in weight too

Sean
18-04-2005, 02:57 PM
is this it http://home.comcast.net/~baywingdb/hawkbox.htm ?

Hawkmaster
18-04-2005, 07:53 PM
No correx is thin, it is the stuff the estate agent use in the UK as "For Sale" signs.

Wightwings
18-04-2005, 08:20 PM
yes we use it for site signs on our building sites. I can get plenty of them but wouldnt know were to start bonding the stuff togethor ( i use them as backboards for the birds slices in the housing, totally water proof they are great )

Sean
18-04-2005, 10:06 PM
http://www.coroplast.com/ ?

North East Harris Hawker
19-04-2005, 02:36 AM
mines made of wood and lined with floor vinyl, take it out everyso often, scrub it and wipe it with a damp rag. brand new!

Kevin Massey
19-04-2005, 08:43 PM
correx.........http://www.kaysersberg-plastics.com/

this is a reply i had from them...........

"Dear Kevin

Many thanks for your enquiry, We have a stockist called Cordek who stock our 1220x2440mm sheet in 2.1mm and 8mm, unfortunately we do not make 10mm sheet. Please call Codek on 01403 799600 and they will be able to help with your enquiry.

Kind Regards

Anna Reeves "

aint rang them yet though...........

kev

Kevin Massey
19-04-2005, 08:44 PM
ps i asked about 10mm thick sheets

kev

Sean
19-04-2005, 10:18 PM
cant find a price on that site lol :(

Kevin Massey
19-04-2005, 11:24 PM
you will need to ring cordek

kev

Mary Quite Contrary
20-04-2005, 10:46 AM
well done mass

Sean
20-04-2005, 11:22 AM
lol, lol where do u get all teh avators from

Kevin Massey
20-04-2005, 06:26 PM
there all over the place sean....just browse for animated gif files.

Sean
20-04-2005, 10:46 PM
lol

Tree Sitter
20-07-2005, 08:18 PM
Like the idea of the correx may have to look into that cheers.

Max

Coedhirion
20-07-2005, 09:36 PM
mines made of wood and lined with floor vinyl, take it out everyso often, scrub it and wipe it with a damp rag. brand new!
If you don't use it for a while, give a good puff of anti mite spray in and shut it up too. Then if there is any thing like redmite etc it keeps it clear for a good bit.

Miguel Gomez
20-07-2005, 11:48 PM
My best box was a steel frame with bow perch covered in heavy canvas

Left it in aviary and RTs decided to copulate on it and left the top in shreds, still have the frame but never got round to putting new canvas on.

Very light in weight and airy

Kevin Massey
13-03-2006, 02:41 AM
Mass what is correx? and can you PM the plans please

mark do you still have the plans?...i re-formatted my pc ages ago and lost them all:oops: