Tail mounts

[Gary.B]

Who sells the best tail mounts?
Cheers.

[BrianM]

hi gary i used to make my own ,,, till i got a new telmetry system from falconry electronics he supplied me with new mounts and they are brill ,you can buy them from him at £3 each

[RabbitHawker]

It depends on what you want for a tail mount, there are plenry of brass tube tail mounts for sale, for a few quid each. Marshalls do a really nice aluminium one, but you also ned a special crimping tool.You can easily make plectrum ones with guitar plectrums, I like these as they spread the weight of bell and transmitter over a few feathers and stop the transmitter dropping through.

[Moritz]

Hi,
we use the marshall tail mounts and they are very good. They work with every transmitter. If someone wants to try them but does not want to buy the tool just give me a shout. Just come up to my mates house and we will do it for you. It is in scotland near Perth.

Moritz

[Gary.B]

Has anyone tried these ones on Griffs website http://www.m-jhoods.co.uk/Main_page.htm?

[CastleFalconry]

Not those specifically but I use something very similar on my birds. Very good is all I can say.

I only use tailbells, one of these mounts allows you to attach a bell and telemetry. Very good!!!

[OutFlying]

Has anyone tried these ones on Griffs website http://www.m-jhoods.co.uk/Main_page.htm?

Gary,
After using tailmounts on Goshawks for the last 5 seasons and seeing how center decks feathers can be pulled out or tail mounting snagging on brambles etc. I would keep the tail mount arrangement as small as possible and as close to the feathers as you can.

You can make your own quite easily, cut out a piece of leather in the shape of a guitar plectrum. Cut a small section of brass tube for the telemetry mounting clip to fix to. Punch 4 holes in the leather, 2 for the brass tube to fix to the plectrum (tie wrap) - 2 holes at the top for the tie wraps to fix to the center decks. Neat job, low profile and the leather is flexible on the feathers.

I wouldn't use any of the tailmounts made from plastic as thick or as large as these or the falconry electronic ones either.

Outflying.

[Gary.B]

Cut a small section of brass tube for the telemetry mounting clip to fix to.
Sounds good, is that the stuff you can get from a model shop, what diameter?
Cheers

[OutFlying]

Yes most likely, around 4 or 5 mm - you can use a pair of pliers and "flatten" the profile of the round tube to form a more elliptical shape.

[KevGem1]

hi there just had a look at the site gary.b put up, i am using them mounts my self this year on a pere/saker and a haris up untill know i have used plectrums but i thought id give these a try this year. probably be able to give you a beter ider when ive yoused them for a season my advice is try diferrent things and see witch works best for you. all the best KEV. :wink:

[Wightwings]

Cut a small section of brass tube for the telemetry mounting clip to fix to.
Sounds good, is that the stuff you can get from a model shop, what diameter?
Cheers

or use spent .22 casings with the ends cut off. I got a load off Sacker sucker.

[Gary.B]

Any chance of a photo or drawing of how it all goes together, I've got hold of some tube, I want to get it right if I'm gonna attach £140 worth of transmitter to it, cheers chaps.

[OutFlying]

will try soon, will make one and photograph it.

[Gaz]

something like this :?: ....leather everytime :!:

[Hawkmaster]

Gaz who made that?

[Fenman46]

Yes good job :D {now where is my dummy launcher }

[OutFlying]

Gaz, cheers you saved me the job. Top 2 holes for fixing to the decks, middle 2 for the bell. Nice and easy to mount, no glue.

[Hawkmaster]

Where is the support for the telemetry?

[OutFlying]

what support ?

[Gary.B]

Gaz hows the tube attached?

[OutFlying]

cut 2 slots, then pass the tailmount thru the leather and flatten the ends (its a tail mount not brass tubing). If you use brass tube - punch 2 holes in a vertical line and use a tie wrap to secure it

[Gaz]

Telemetry support :?: & one with a bell on :lol:

[Falconry Equipment International]

Guys love the idea of this . KNowing you as shortwingers have you used this on gamehwaks? what is the likely outcome re G forces on throw up / pullup from a high stoop etc ? never seen this before I like the idea& like the thought of not having to use glue etc so are 2 top holes for cable ties/ thread. sory for stupidity, punch drunk old buffer trying to recover from ffair :rolleyes:

[Finnish]

I have used this on longwings mate so does every one i no around here.

[Gaz]

The back,&and the tube before attaching

[Gaz]

punch drunk old buffer
Aint that the truth :mrgreen: :finga: ....pleasure to meet you sir

[Gaz]

Gaz who made that?
Me.

[Falconry Equipment International]

punch drunk old buffer
Aint that the truth :mrgreen: :finga: ....pleasure to meet you sir
& you squire , shame it werent longer :lol: :lol: whaty does this remind you of? :butthead: :rolleyes: :snakeman: :finga: :mrgreen: :lol: :lol:

[Finnish]

They are not hard to make it takes mins.

[Gaz]

whaty does this remind you of?
OOpps :mrgreen:

[Wightwings]

Gaz new avatar.......wow mate it says it all really......anyhow the tail mount it spot on. i have made all sorts but the one in the pick is really easy to make and easy to put on.

[Gaz]

Gaz new avatar
I got modorated Chris :shock:..apparently a few of you guys ideal :!:

[Wightwings]

I got modorated Chris
sorry to hear that Gaz,................not nice is it...................... :roll: i believe theres some new anti mod cream you can get........ :roll: :lol: :wink:

PS mate is was really good seeing you lot over the weekend again....see you soon when i come up for the newby..... :D

[Falconry Equipment International]

I got modorated Chris
sorry to hear that Gaz,................not nice is it...................... :roll: i believe theres some new anti mod cream you can get........ :roll: :lol: :wink:

PS mate is was really good seeing you lot over the weekend again....see you soon when i come up for the newby..... :D
Is that similar to prep H :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Wightwings]

ye but burns more............. :lol: :lol:

[Gaz]

Cheers Chris,hope you had a "smashing" time :lol:

[Finnish]

Rub it on then Chris :finga:

[Wightwings]

Cheers Chris,hope you had a "smashing" time

:finga: :finga: :finga: :butthead: :butthead: :rolleyes:

[Morb]

Gaz
Your tail mount looks great, I'm gonna make one. How is the casing held on?

Ron
Oops. Nevermind. I missed a page somehow.

[Gaz]

Read dude,...scanning is just a figure of speech... :finga:

[OutFlying]

Guys love the idea of this . KNowing you as shortwingers have you used this on gamehwaks? what is the likely outcome re G forces on throw up / pullup from a high stoop etc ? never seen this before I like the idea& like the thought of not having to use glue etc so are 2 top holes for cable ties/ thread. sory for stupidity, punch drunk old buffer trying to recover from ffair :rolleyes:

SJ, Place 1 cable tie around 1 deck feather leaving it full length with the tail of the tie wrap pointing up and inwards - pull tight, repeat for second deck feather. Then place the leather plectrum over the tails of the tie wraps going through the top 2 holes from below. Then run a fresh tie wrap down on the tail protruding through the leather from the top to form a tight seal ( repeat for second tie wrap) cut excess material - if done right it will not ever become detached.

hope this makes sense............................................. ....

[Gaz]

Well done Jim........been trying to work out how to explain it... :roll: :finga:

[OutFlying]

Gaz, I'd always used a similar system but instead of tie wraps used a thin leather strip and glue. But on collecting the gos from Chris - was shown this method. I was a bit worried at first until he showed me the pint glass full of moulted out tail feathers with the mounts still attached. Now everyone I know who flies a gos locally uses the same method - it works. Last season my imprint gos hit a branch and remove both decks but the plectrum and transmitter were still attached securely to the feathers. How lucky was that :wink: ?

[Hawkmaster]

Pictures gents! :lol:

[OutFlying]

HM. Gaz has put the pictures up - can you not follow my description - if not I'll try again. You'll have to wait a few months to see the pictures of it being fitted to a hawk.

I could do a step by step pictures on a simulated set up i.e 2 pencils - but can't reduced the photo's small enough to post.

[Gaz]

Why you would want a pic of the gents is beyond me dude....but....
p.s.
you considered therapy dude :?:

[OutFlying]

I've heard of sh*ting bricks but pi**ing bricks is new to me Gaz. Is it just A West Country thing :shock:

[Falconry Equipment International]

HM. Gaz has put the pictures up - can you not follow my description - if not I'll try again. You'll have to wait a few months to see the pictures of it being fitted to a hawk.

I could do a step by step pictures on a simulated set up i.e 2 pencils - but can't reduced the photo's small enough to post.
Hi OutFlying, have had to read your post 3 times & finally have worked out how easy (I think this is) This is due to me being thick, not your excellent explanation :wink:
One thing , am I right in thinking final cable tie has 2'buckles' ( don't know what else to call them, but where you pass thin end thro) one below & one above tailmount?
SJ

[OutFlying]

yes you've got it

[Falconry Equipment International]

Ok thanks OF. Can't remember if I have asked this before but have any gamehawkers used this type of method? I notice that most that have used this are goshawkers looks good anyway.

[Finnish]

Yes game hawkers have used this tail mount everyone i no with a falcon around here ueses it mate,I had it on my falcon.

[Hawkmaster]

Good one, Gaz!

[HawkNorth]

hi outflying were do yuo get the tubes from

[OutFlying]

hi outflying were do yuo get the tubes from

I use .22 bullet cartridges cut down, but 5mm brass tubing will do the same.

OF.

[Finnish]

This is what we all use as well 22 bullet cartridegs.

[HawkNorth]

thanks guys

[Mich]

the talk of tall mount is ok until weight of the system makes the bird throw the feather or even worse it gets removed on a fence
have you considered a body harness and mounting the telemetry between the wings high on the back?
fod for thought and will work well on a new hawk or falcon

[OutFlying]

Check the other 5 or so threads on back packs. All these questions are going round in circles.

[BrianM]

i am getting dizzy....lol

[Goldie]

:supz:

[Gaz]

Do you use tailmounts Jim :?: if so,what do they look like?can you put up some pics and explain how to do it :?: :twisted: :butthead:

[OutFlying]

Ground hog day :cry: :cry: :cry: