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Tim Laycock
03-05-2005, 10:59 PM
I saw so many good hoods at the falconry fair that I thought I would try my hand at making my own again ( first time I have put a needle through some leather in about 12 years)
what do you guys think of my first effort (Be gentle) :)

How do your home made hoods turn out :?:

Post some pics if you have some( Not you Griff MJ because it will make all ours look even more Kack!!! :lol:




Tim Laycock
03-05-2005, 11:00 PM
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ColdZero
03-05-2005, 11:03 PM
i'm not in the position to give an opinion on hoods as i know nothing about them, but yours looks good to me. I have never even considered making my own for some reason....maybe i will one day.

HawkMan69UK
03-05-2005, 11:05 PM
griff got nothing on yours bb :lol: if thats first attempt your doing a f-----g good job

Finnish
03-05-2005, 11:06 PM
That looks sound mate

Tim Laycock
04-05-2005, 01:30 AM
Cheers guys.
I must admit I impressed myself, I certainly couldn't make them like that when I was 14 so I bought one.
The pattern was a bit of a "Heath Robinson job" because I didn't have a book at home with any patterns in and was too idle to go and get it, so I made it up.
I drew a cross on a bit of paper and constructed the rest around that. Chopped it around a bit and redid it but I think the vee at the back was still a bit deep?
I didn't think of any thing in particular when I sized it but Im sure it would fit something.

GriffMJ
04-05-2005, 11:49 AM
lol....good effort :)

Tim Laycock
04-05-2005, 12:32 PM
Cheers mate!
Are ya runnin scared yet? :lol: pmsl :wink:

GriffMJ
04-05-2005, 12:48 PM
like Lynford Christie m8 :)

Tim Laycock
04-05-2005, 12:58 PM
Just wait till I get some starting blo--- I mean hood blocks !!!.
:lol: :lol: :rolleyes:

Tim Laycock
10-05-2005, 02:13 AM
my second effort (now with a non made up pattern :lol: )

Tim Laycock
10-05-2005, 02:14 AM
I know the plume is a bit of a joke but I cant remember the Turkish knot :roll:

ColdZero
10-05-2005, 02:54 AM
looks good again...why are you up so late too? lol

Tim Laycock
10-05-2005, 07:39 AM
Thanks m8, watching my auctions on E bay :roll: :lol:

Tim Laycock
11-05-2005, 01:17 AM
This evenings labours :|

I bought some snake skin at the falconry fair so I decided to see what the piece I got was like to work with, Answer--- Difficult to say the least :!:

I wasnt happy with last nights effort at any rate as the seams were not the best. The throat lash and rolled edge around the throat were made from cheap, kacky leather.
I took the hood apart and modified the pattern also as the previous attempt was slightly little mishapen. :rolleyes:

Overall I learned two things tonight about snake skin this evening.

No 1. DONT force dry it :!: It singes sooooo easily.

No 2 DONT strech it too much :!: It will rip without warning and you
will not be a happy bunny :evil:

Jack Merlin
11-05-2005, 01:28 PM
Neat work!

May sound like sacrilage but to make a good hood, you need a good pattern -- and to get a good pattern the best way is to take a hood that fits to pieces and take a pattern off it. Use this pattern in a scanner or photographic enlarger to get different sizes. Then re-make the original hood by sewing it together through the original thread holes. Not so easy these days when everyone seems to use blocked hoods.

Can't emphasise enough that it is the fit that matters. I've seen a few hoods illustrated in this forum but have yet to see one that fits properly. That means the beak opening should not touch the cere or "lips". It should be comfortable for the bird. And the hawk should not be able to get it off. Apart from that, I don't really care what it looks like. Just a personal opinion.

Tim Laycock
11-05-2005, 07:00 PM
Neat work!

Thanks Jack.
It looks a lot better in the photos than it does in your hand believe me :lol:

It should be comfortable for the bird. Apart from that, I don't really care what it looks like

This has always been my ethics too as far as hoods and indeed all bits of falconry gear are concerned.
I think rightly or wrongly that the best hood for shortwings is the anglo indian pattern.
(I was just trying to be fancy with the arab/dutch hybrid :roll: )

What do you use on KK Jack?

Jack Merlin
11-05-2005, 10:24 PM
I did a deal with an American and got quite a nice Dutch hood. He was juist starting. Of course, now he is better known and has got expensive. But it is a bit too big since I trimmed the beak opening. That is always my problem! I cannot leave well alone!

I will have a dig and see if I have any hood patterns. I gave everything away some years ago when I "gave up falconry" but probably have somthing on film somewhere. These days I would need one of those illuminated magnifying glasses on a stand (loupe?).

But I do think you made a good job of the hood. Don't take my comments as criticism.

Has anyone seen any of those braceless hoods with a loop of piano wire at the back? The wire keeps the hood closed until pinched between thumb and forefinger. Quite a good idea for a hawk that is a bit shy of the hood.

Tim Laycock
11-05-2005, 10:55 PM
Has anyone seen any of those braceless hoods with a loop of piano wire at the back? The wire keeps the hood closed until pinched between thumb and forefinger. Quite a good idea for a hawk that is a bit shy of the hood.

I have seen them and was a little bit dubious of them to be honest, but then again I suppose I was just thinking "if it aint broke dont fix it"
They would be an aid with a hood shy hawk but I would want to substitute it for a traditional one as soon as possible.
I have always felt a great sense of occasion when striking the braces of a hood in readiness for a slip :D

Tim Laycock
12-05-2005, 01:24 AM
After posting the above I got to thinking about afghan hoods.
I dug out a pattern for a female spar and started to make it this evening at 12:20 pm.
It was finished at 1:10 pm, I thought it was prety quick but this was obviously due to it not having braces or any stiching for that matter.

Im not going to post any more pics until someone posts a picture of a hood they have made because that is what I intended at the start of the thread :D
Come on folks, Have a pop and post a pic :D

Oh yes, the coin is a 1p piece by the way.

Sean
03-06-2005, 10:27 PM
hey blackbird, hows the hoodmaking coming on now?

Tim Laycock
03-06-2005, 11:04 PM
This was my last effort Sean.
Its going on this seasons Spar, its made from an old wallet of my grandfathers.
The leather is wafer thin- The hood weighs 3.4g

(I realise the pics are p1ss poor but the new camera is on its way) :oops:

Sean
03-06-2005, 11:07 PM
wow very inpressive! nice lil turks knot too :D, im trying a hood at the moment, ill let you know it it goes lol :S

Tim Laycock
03-06-2005, 11:31 PM
Im glad you like it sean :)
Im glad your having a crack yourself M8!
Bang a pic on here when you have done it, Its what I intended in the first place :D :D :D

Sean
03-06-2005, 11:32 PM
sure will lol

Athene
04-06-2005, 01:14 PM
Ok, ok, here are afew I have made.

SakerJack
04-06-2005, 01:23 PM
Athene,
I like your hoods especially the second one, the beak opening looks good and love the top knot..
Keep at it..
Sakerjack
Falconry Hoods International

Tim Laycock
04-06-2005, 01:41 PM
:shock: Nice work Athene!!!!!!!!
I like em a lot, but I like the second one best.
Thats what I call a "proper home made hood" :D

Athene
04-06-2005, 06:11 PM
It is a nick fox's pattern, size for a barbary tiercel (I guess).

Sean
04-06-2005, 06:14 PM
Hey Blackbird, gave it another go today, stitched it all up, even blocked it(was an anglo indian :S, dont know if i blocked it right or wrong) and was looking amazing. then the braces came :S i messed it up on the braces lol, i eventually snap a bit of the brace a gave up. maybe next time ill make the brace slits bigger lol, ill post a pic of it tho when i find my sisters camera(shes hidden it :( ) Ive still to complete a hood lol. watch this space you might see a set of hood blocks and tools for sale lol

Finnish
04-06-2005, 06:15 PM
I thought some of tho's hoods look very nice.

Tim Laycock
04-06-2005, 06:58 PM
When you do the braces Sean, I dont know if you know but its better to use leather with both sides fairly smooth, ie- the rough side of the leather is dense and not loose or rough.
Whatever you do, dont grease them M8 :lol:
Thats bad **** :oops: :lol:

Sean
04-06-2005, 07:01 PM
how could i make the rough side smoth? burn it with a match maybe?

Tim Laycock
04-06-2005, 07:09 PM
Its best to select a piece that is smooth to start with Sean. :wink:
You can "flatten the pile" by ironing it through a cotton handkerchief but this will not help you with hood braces M8 :(

I would steer clear of burning it off the hide. It does not smell good :!:

Sean
08-06-2005, 06:06 PM
heres my pics, lol bear in mind i have NEVER sewn before, i tried a hood before this and didnt even get to the sewn part lol

Tim Laycock
08-06-2005, 06:41 PM
Good effort Sean :D
Stick with it M8. Did you use a Glasier pattern?
Just a suggestion but next time try to do your marking out on the hide side of the leather, Then cutting accuracy is not quite so paramount. :wink:

Sean
08-06-2005, 06:45 PM
lol i forgot to do the marking on the suede side. I used a pattern from a site lol

Bubo
08-06-2005, 07:17 PM
Well done sean, that is a damn good try there. they look awfully fiddly to make. Ken made me one to hang in my car :P i'm real chuffed with it :D i was just trying to work out how those braces go in :lol: keep at it sean you will get there. :P
bubo

Ali
08-06-2005, 07:45 PM
Hi Everyone,
Sean its kewl mate, and i am happy you got to make a hood of your own, though the hood is very nicely made, youre becoming a professional :) and i wish you good luck in your efforts,keep it up.
Ali

Sean
08-06-2005, 08:36 PM
lol thanks ali and bubo

SkyRider
09-06-2005, 07:03 PM
Anyone tried to make a Slijpers (sp?) hood with exact measurements? Also, how well do home-made glued hoods hold up?

Tim Laycock
09-06-2005, 07:21 PM
See further up the thread!
The red snakeskin Afghan hood is exactly this and it is glued too :D
Glued hoods are very durable providing you dont have them rolling around in your hawking bag all season!

Ben C
09-06-2005, 07:30 PM
Bloody hell sean, absolutely top banana mate. Well done! I have yet to try making a hood. Superb mate. :) :) :)

Tim Laycock
09-06-2005, 07:38 PM
Ben.
Stop ******* around! Get one made and get it posted :D

TheMeanPitBull
09-06-2005, 08:13 PM
where do u get all the patterns?
i want to try and make a hood but i cant find a hood i want to make a small one

TheMeanPitBull
09-06-2005, 08:16 PM
a hood pattern i mean*

Ben C
09-06-2005, 08:25 PM
Blackbird......................yep why not make myself a great big target for you barstools to take the **** out of???.....I gonna post up a hood by some famous ****** and catch you out you ****er!!!!! :) :) So be warned. :) :) :)

TheMeanPitBull
09-06-2005, 08:33 PM
lmfao

Ben C
09-06-2005, 08:43 PM
Am I supposed to use leather, I can't remember? Cor I wish I had done a qualified course, oh well I'll go and look it up in a book. :) :) :) :)

Tim Laycock
09-06-2005, 08:57 PM
Leather Ben!!!
Dont be silly! use some flour and water as adhesive,card board for the hood and cable ties for braces :rolleyes: :mrgreen: pmsl

Ben C
09-06-2005, 09:01 PM
I used clay last time but Cody seemed to tip forward on his perch. Is this right? Or should I have used something lighter, perhaps FIMO or play doh.

I wish it was friday night mate, this thread could become f**king hilarious after a few beers!!!!! :D :D

Tim Laycock
09-06-2005, 09:15 PM
FIMO
Ben.
Remember to take the bird outof the hood before putting it in the oven!
(As its a harris, put it in but only put the gas on M8 :rolleyes: :lol:

Ignore me!! Its my B'Day and Im Leathered :drinkers:

Hawkmaster
09-06-2005, 09:20 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DUDE!

Tim Laycock
09-06-2005, 09:22 PM
Cheers HM
Its a good un' Oh yes !!! :drinkers: :drinkers: :drinkers: :drinkers:

Ben C
09-06-2005, 09:23 PM
You jammy drunken *******........however if you carry on with this Harris bashing I shall have to get the blunt octopus out.....and you know what that means mate.

I have got a picture of the clay hood by the way I shall post it tomorrow and see what you say!!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY......Now change your age to 28.....WE ARE WATCHING!!

SkyRider
09-06-2005, 09:36 PM
where do u get all the patterns?
i want to try and make a hood but i cant find a hood i want to make a small one

Either Glasier's book (Falconry and Hawking) or Beebe & Websters (North American Falconry and Hunting Hawks). NAFAHH tells you how to measure the whole thing, etc. Falconry and Hawking has two patterns in it.. one for Anglo-Indian and one for Falconry Centre (Modified Dutch). Just depends on whether you want two different styles or more extensive knowledge of one style. Falconry and Hawking goes over them more in detail though, photos and all!

Sean
09-06-2005, 09:54 PM
happy birthday mate
thanks ben, look forward to seeing urs :D

Tim Laycock
09-06-2005, 11:35 PM
:shock: Ben dont start making idle octopus threats or I will bring my squid to the B'Day bash :twisted: <Btw> I was 26 yesterday :oops: :lol:

Cheers Sean
look forward to seeing urs
What his Octopuss :shock: pmsl

Bubo
10-06-2005, 06:22 AM
:lol: :lol: i know this is late but happy belated birthday :wink: right i'm off to give the hood making a go 8)

Tim Laycock
10-06-2005, 10:14 AM
Thanks Bubo :wink:

Tim Laycock
02-07-2005, 03:19 AM
Here is the hood I am currently using with my Tiercel Goshawk.
I made it the night before picking him up and he is growing into it nicely
It took 3/4 of an hour to construct and is a modified Glasier gos pattern midway between a female and a tiercel.

I have even branched out into coloured stiching due to the fact that I pilfered a sewing kit from the hotel room on holiday!!(Tight. does not do me justice!!!) :lol: :mrgreen:

Tim Laycock
02-07-2005, 03:22 AM
From behind! :oops: :lol:

GriffMJ
02-07-2005, 08:13 AM
Good effort Blackbird!

Tim Laycock
02-07-2005, 03:26 PM
Thanks Griff :D
<BTW>I like your new Mavro hoods. I have one exactly the same as the one Jack Merlin showed you from the same originator to fit a female perigrine. It was the only hood she would endure. If you tried anything else she would make her distain known to all!!! :lol:

Kornie
07-08-2005, 11:06 PM
AAAhh, found it Tim.

really good hoods, after seeing the offort required to make them live, I can only take my hat off to you. Athene yours are fantastic too.

Little practise yet sean, but good work :)

You wait till you see mine tomorrow, Ill call it the 3 minutre hood.

Ben C
07-08-2005, 11:23 PM
Ben who???????????????????????????? :) :)

Tim Laycock
08-08-2005, 12:47 AM
My latest aquisition. £60
Bargain :wink:

Tim Laycock
08-08-2005, 01:05 AM
Now, Armed with hood blocks and good patterns here is my latest effort.
The main faults are that the beak opening stretched too much and the "V" at the rear of the hood is cut too high up. both are entirely my own fault as it should of been a measure twice and cut once scenario, Sadly this was not the case. :roll:

<btw> It would look better lacquered but as those of you that were at the birthday bash will remember, Ben Long was playing things very close to his chest when pressed about technicality's! :shock: :lol:

I will endeavor to persevere! :lol:

GriffMJ
08-08-2005, 09:21 AM
Wow....BB u are coming on leaps and bounds... gape looks a bit too big tho. V impressed with your sewing...... there are still a few things that you need work on BUT..... excellent effort. BTW the laquer that you need to use is called "Fiebing's Leather Sheen" ...... you must burnish the hood first to give it a bit of polish....but the laquer will make the hood shower proof and also put a bit of gloss on the leather :) If you want som more tips..... then give me a ring :)

I am really interested in a close up pic of the "Black Hood blocks" and the "Clear Hood Blocks".... can you do that for me/us :) Where did you get all the stuff....ebay?

Hawkmaster
08-08-2005, 12:35 PM
Like your rolled edge too BB!

Here is one I am working on.

Hawkmaster
08-08-2005, 12:37 PM
As you can see loads to do still and the beak opening gives me nightmares and there is still some light coming through, but will probably sort that with either black nail varnish or a thin strip inside.

BTW it only weighs 2.8 grams as is sits there. :wink:

GriffMJ
08-08-2005, 01:00 PM
hmmmm interesting method u have there HM? Dont understand how you have done the bottom edge.... have you bonded a thin top layer then rolled over the bottom edge?

Also looks like u have used a single stitch to the eye panel....hence the wavy edge....if you came back on yourself to do the X stitch it would straighten the edge line :)

Tim Laycock
08-08-2005, 01:05 PM
Nice work HM :D

Hawkmaster
08-08-2005, 01:22 PM
hmmmm interesting method u have there HM?
Yes it is not used often, also know as a baseball stitch.
Dont understand how you have done the bottom edge.... have you bonded a thin top layer then rolled over the bottom edge?
I used a method my mom showed me, it is simply rolled and glued.

Also looks like u have used a single stitch to the eye panel....hence the wavy edge....if you came back on yourself to do the X stitch it would straighten the edge line
I tried two needles and coming back BUT it drives me mad, all help on this WELCOME!
Nice work HM
Cheers mate!

GriffMJ
08-08-2005, 01:30 PM
Also looks like u have used a single stitch to the eye panel....hence the wavy edge....if you came back on yourself to do the X stitch it would straighten the edge line
I tried two needles and coming back BUT it drives me mad, all help on this WELCOME!


U dont need two needles to do it........ just one..........when u have reached the end of one eye panel.... just come back on yourself... you will also make the stitch stronger and long lasting by doing this. U got my number if u need some more tips :)

Falconry Equipment International
08-08-2005, 01:39 PM
[quote="Hawkmaster"]
I tried two needles and coming back BUT it drives me mad, all help on this WELCOME!
[quote]
Hi Paul very interesting , have you tried using saddlers egg eyed harness needles( blunt ended) pref size 5 or 6 , like hen's teeth to get hold of such small sizes(not made any more... smallest now are 4's, like lances in comparisson) but worth it. cant wait to see a finished article with those lovely silver ferrules. BTW BB did you cut V & beak opening before or when blocking hood?
Also thought you would like to see the last hood I actually made , about 15 years ago!

GriffMJ
08-08-2005, 01:42 PM
I have seen the hood in the flesh...pic doesnt do it justice...v nice SJ

In fact I like the hood design so much.... I will make one .... with Black "lizard skin" eye panels for Nulagh, SJ.....she is a size 4 DP isnt she?

Hawkmaster
08-08-2005, 01:57 PM
have you tried using saddlers egg eyed harness needles( blunt ended) pref size 5 or 6
http://www.proleptic.net/tools_search.asp?category=26

How do you guys do those rolles edges?

GriffMJ
08-08-2005, 02:07 PM
have you tried using saddlers egg eyed harness needles( blunt ended) pref size 5 or 6

I use size 7 quilting needles...... endless supply from local sewing shop :)

How do you guys do rolled edges?

There are various methods of making the "throat strap" .... the most common is the sew and glue method.... the simplest is the glue only method and the hardest (but most effective) is the roll & sew only. The best "glue" only method that I have seen is the method used by "Dennis Maynes" in Canada... I am sure that "SakerJack" can describe the method as he is a "pupil" of DM :) Its is by no means "easy" to achieve but....if you cant sew (or cant be bothered....lol) then its the next best thing :)

Mary Quite Contrary
08-08-2005, 02:16 PM
what glue is used for hoods.

GriffMJ
08-08-2005, 02:22 PM
what glue is used for hoods.

Leather glue of good quality..... try and find a "dry" bond type CC

Hawkmaster
08-08-2005, 02:59 PM
Do any of you use knives to cut patterns or beak openings?

GriffMJ
08-08-2005, 03:07 PM
yes...I pre score the beak opening and then cut when hood is semi damp.....NOT on the block. I use a combination of knife and scissore to cut the pattern.

Hawkmaster
08-08-2005, 03:11 PM
Sorry when I said knife, I meant a special tool that is that exact shape?

But that is interesting I find if I cut the beak first then I end up with everything out of shape. Probably rubbish leather?

GriffMJ
08-08-2005, 03:19 PM
Sorry when I said knife, I meant a special tool that is that exact shape?

But that is interesting I find if I cut the beak first then I end up with everything out of shape. Probably rubbish leather?

NOOOOOOO.....u must cut after blocking ...lol.... if you cut prior to blocking it will stretch as the leather dry's..... and basically be good for nothing....lol

I dont use pre cut patterns (using knife) I make my own patterns or copy from given patterns..... I have been offered pre cut patterns but I have found that they were ***** in shape and fit.... (the Arab type pattern) ....so I dont use them...... :)

I find that any "given" pattern needs altering anyway....classic example of this are the Ron Rollins patterns you can buy from "Hawkmasters" in the US.... the lower end of the block patterns are just too big for the blocks....therefore they need altering back to fit the block properly.

Mary Quite Contrary
08-08-2005, 06:47 PM
what glue is used for hoods.

Leather glue of good quality..... try and find a "dry" bond type CC



What make of glue would you recommend?

GriffMJ
08-08-2005, 07:16 PM
what glue is used for hoods.

Leather glue of good quality..... try and find a "dry" bond type CC



What make of glue would you recommend?

Tandy's Tanners Bond :)

Falconry Equipment International
08-08-2005, 09:38 PM
I have seen the hood in the flesh...pic doesnt do it justice...v nice SJ

In fact I like the hood design so much.... I will make one .... with Black "lizard skin" eye panels for Nulagh, SJ.....she is a size 4 DP isnt she?
did I show you.. if so did not mean 2 tell u 2 suck eggs :oops: :oops: so sorry if I did. your parts/ shapes are far better than this I had 2 borrow the blocks/ patts yyuop thnak but I WANT U 2 C HER B4 starting ( BTW broken shoulder intro to lure v funny story will tell it when I have pics, but ultimately successful!)

Tim Laycock
11-08-2005, 10:47 PM
The fruit of last nights labours.<vbg>

Adam Barrett
11-08-2005, 11:38 PM
very nice mate-did you get the hood blocks of ebay?

GriffMJ
11-08-2005, 11:40 PM
Well done BB ! you need to work on those top knots tho ...looking a bit chunky :)

Tim Laycock
12-08-2005, 12:51 AM
Long story m8.
Came from the widow of an NEFC member that passed away :(
Had to go to a club member that would make use of them himself.
Thats where I came into the picture. :D

Tim Laycock
12-08-2005, 12:57 AM
Well done BB ! you need to work on those top knots tho ...looking a bit chunky
In my defence Griff they are the first ones I have ever tied in anything like the correct manner<Vbg>
My mission now is to get some leather that does not come by way of Ebay :lol: (I have a very expensive thickness guage that I want to take to a local tannery and look all s****y with)Rpmsl :lol:

Adam Barrett
12-08-2005, 01:01 AM
all right sorry to hear that mate-at leastthey are being put to use now. :)

iv had a bash at making a few hoods myself now and am confident with the anglo-indian ect-ill post some pics later.

i wanna move on to trying a blocked hood does anyone know a supplier that sells hood block singularly? as it is really not apppropriate for me to pay big bucks on a full set :( :?

thanks
Adam

Adam Barrett
12-08-2005, 01:05 AM
My mission now is to get some leather that does not come by way of Ebay (I have a very expensive thickness guage that I want to take to a local tannery and look all s****y with)Rpmsl

do you know burnley at all mate? there is a saddelers in a village just outside burnley i went to her for a few offcuts and she has a store room piled high with 10s of hides i got a full calf hide for a tenner
:mrgreen:

Tim Laycock
12-08-2005, 07:26 AM
This sounds good m8. can you let me have the address?

Adam Barrett
12-08-2005, 12:50 PM
you have pm mate 8)

Adam Barrett
13-08-2005, 02:14 PM
the other night i had a go at making a anglo indian style hood from pattern in phillip glasiers book-this was my first second attempt :lol:

excuse the plume iv not yet managed to do a turks head knot :oops: :roll:

sorry about the quality of the photos :lol:


ummm can any one help me re-size these pics?

GriffMJ
13-08-2005, 02:22 PM
cant see the pics Adam!

Adam Barrett
13-08-2005, 02:26 PM
yes mayte i put it up but it was hudge so i deleated it-can anyone help me re-size it please? :lol:

GriffMJ
13-08-2005, 02:33 PM
Use MS Paint.... open the pic in paint....then go to "image" on the top bar....then go to "Stretch/Skew"..... and reduce by whatever % u want ....then "save as" ....make sure that u save as a JPG as that keeps the quality but reduces the size of file :)

Adam Barrett
13-08-2005, 02:42 PM
Dont laugh :oops: :lol:

GriffMJ
13-08-2005, 02:44 PM
good effort Adam :)

Tim Laycock
13-08-2005, 03:33 PM
Adam.
If I had to pick it would be the stitching.
This said I have seen worse for sale, and bought!
'Nuff said m8.
Good job :D

Falconry Equipment International
13-08-2005, 03:36 PM
Long story m8.
Came from the widow of an NEFC member that passed away :(
Had to go to a club member that would make use of them himself.
Thats where I came into the picture. :D
Hi BB if they are by the same hood maker that had some hoods on the nefc stand at the falconers fair about 5 yrs ago they were rtuly beautiful hoods,& his skills are a great loss( sorry if this is not the guy, just put 2&2 togther) anyway , I reckon you'll soon be making really good use of them by your latest effort. well done m8

Adam Barrett
13-08-2005, 03:50 PM
If I had to pick it would be the stitching

yes mate-had a few more goes since this andiam slowly improving :lol:
i now have some better leather :wink:
any tips?

Tim Laycock
13-08-2005, 05:28 PM
Hi BB if they are by the same hood maker that had some hoods on the nefc stand at the falconers fair about 5 yrs ago they were rtuly beautiful hoods,& his skills are a great loss( sorry if this is not the guy, just put 2&2 togther) anyway , I reckon you'll soon be making really good use of them by your latest effort. well done m8
Yes SJ I believe it is the Same chap. I am currently finishing a batch of hoods that he was working on when he passed on.
Its a high bar to jump!

i now have some better leather
any tips?

Dont waste it! :lol:
Seriously If you need any help and you think I might be able to give it, PM me

GriffMJ
13-08-2005, 05:36 PM
BB..... have you got any of the chaps originals? If so can you take a couple of pics of the hoods so we can see....inside and out :) I would be very interested in seeing one.

Tim Laycock
13-08-2005, 06:02 PM
Sorry about the quality of the pics my camera is *****

Tim Laycock
14-08-2005, 02:36 AM
:arrow:

Tim Laycock
14-08-2005, 02:39 AM
These hoods have been kicking around in a carrier bag for a good long while and do not do justice to the standard of Marcus's work at all.

Tim Laycock
19-08-2005, 03:55 PM
My latest work.
I have just finnished this, It is a size 8 rollins pattern and is for my female Gos "Rosalinda"
If it fits I will post a pic of her modeling it. :supz:
If it does not I won't. :oops:

Tim Laycock
19-08-2005, 03:56 PM
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Dude
19-08-2005, 07:25 PM
wow BB these hoods are great!

If u can share ur patterns adn tell me sum hints to make hods like these ;)

I can make hoods what I can use, but not as good looking ones as urs!

regards,
Dan :)

Dude
19-08-2005, 07:55 PM
:prayer:

Tim Laycock
19-08-2005, 08:38 PM
I will try and get them scanned in a printable, Scaled format Dude

EVC
19-08-2005, 10:35 PM
Nice job m8. Keep working BB :prayer: :prayer:

Dude
19-08-2005, 10:37 PM
thx m8 :) I eait 4 it ;)

Tim Laycock
25-08-2005, 12:30 AM
Blocked Anglo Indian,
Another effort.
This time with braces made from a coat lining(Not gore-tex)
They work underwater <btw> :mrgreen:

p.s. Im still trying with the patterns Dude :lol:

Dude
25-08-2005, 09:43 AM
nice work m8 :)

Adam Barrett
25-08-2005, 12:17 PM
your gettin good mate :wink: :lol:

FlameHairedFalconer
01-09-2005, 09:20 PM
My hoods can be seen in my avatar on the left.

I love making hoods, and would really like to get hold of some blocks to do some blocked ones. But I have no desire to sell the things so would just be making them to sit around and go dusty :wink:

FHF

FlameHairedFalconer
01-09-2005, 09:30 PM
Just realised the pic on my avatar is a bit ****

Wightwings
01-09-2005, 10:35 PM
looks very nice FHF........have a look on e-bay for the blocks mate they are on there regular.....Chris

FlameHairedFalconer
01-09-2005, 11:02 PM
Thanks, I would just like one or two to have a go on. God there are some AWFUL gloves on ebay, I'm pleased that I make my own!!

Wightwings
01-09-2005, 11:04 PM
your welcome.......stick a couple of pics up of your gloves if you want to......... :mrgreen:

Tim Laycock
02-09-2005, 12:38 AM
Nice, Interesting hood FHF, I cant quite see what pattern it is.
Is it one or your own devising?
Some or the gear on Ebay is a real joke :lol: I too am Glad that I can make my own and I dont mind admiting that I have always been quite smug about it :mrgreen:

FlameHairedFalconer
02-09-2005, 07:02 PM
B - its an arab pattern with anglo indian braces. The pattern is from Roger Uptons book, and after a bit of fiddling (oo-er sorry Mr Upton!! :) ) I have a friend who scaled it up and down in a CAD programme to give me a variety of sizes.

It makes up into a sort of semi-blocked hood, and the seams come together really well. I'd like to try it on a block which I think would make a really nice hood - I could also cut out the beak opening after drying as MJ says!

Actually perhaps its not such a good idea - I'd have a house full of hoods then!!

I'm just on with sourcing some more elk to make a few gloves. I think I have only had one bought glove in my whole time in falconry and that was bought for me!

FHF

Tim Laycock
02-09-2005, 09:31 PM
Bought gloves.
Very shoddy affairs :roll: :lol:

Hawkmaster
03-09-2005, 10:14 AM
Here is my latest effort.

Tim Laycock
03-09-2005, 11:28 AM
NICE!!! :D

FlameHairedFalconer
04-09-2005, 05:17 PM
Lovely HM!! I really like the bead(?) under the top knot sets off the hood a treat! :)

Hawkmaster
04-09-2005, 09:27 PM
Cheers guys!

Finnish
04-09-2005, 09:29 PM
That look's cool mate.

Wightwings
04-09-2005, 10:55 PM
very nice Paul.........very nice.

Tim Laycock
04-09-2005, 11:18 PM
I dont like the bead but it does in no way detract from how NICE it is :D

Tim Laycock
05-09-2005, 08:59 AM
I do not need telling that it looks like a spanish wallet, Im well aware of this!. LOL

Hawkmaster
05-09-2005, 10:22 AM
I would like a closer look at the top knot. I love a black.

Tim Laycock
05-09-2005, 11:25 AM
This is the best I can do :oops: (Camera wont focus on it)

It was tedious and needs very clean hands when tying :lol: :oops:

Hawkmaster
05-09-2005, 12:41 PM
Aaah thought that is what it was. I did some braided edges on my daughters glove I made her. In fact in South Africa when I was growing up I never knew anyone with rolled edges, only braided. I will pop a picture up of it, as I promised I would in the Childrens Glove thread.

Tim Laycock
05-09-2005, 12:48 PM
I would like to see it

Hawkmaster
05-09-2005, 02:24 PM
http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=98967#98967

Tim Laycock
05-09-2005, 03:35 PM
Once saw a talon torn out on a similar edge but this was a common buzzard on a glove just long enough for a merlin :!:

Dagash
26-02-2006, 06:46 AM
wow they are really excellent ...well done looks profesional