Suitable Lures for Harris hawks.

[Boby]

hi everyone, yet again im on the scrounge for more advice!

what type of lure/lures would be suitable for a harris hawk?

i would like to use my fhh for fur and feather.


can anyone recomend where to get lures from, and what size should be used for a female harris.

Many thanks.:rolleyes:

[Jim Wale]

you can buy dummy bunnies from vertually and falconry supplyer but its somtimes good fun to make ure own

[SBFalconry]

hi everyone, yet again im on the scrounge for more advice!

what type of lure/lures would be suitable for a harris hawk?

i would like to use my fhh for fur and feather.


can anyone recomend where to get lures from, and what size should be used for a female harris.

Many thanks.:rolleyes:

A tortoise lol sorry couldn't resist it

[Grey_Squirrel_Hawker]

a lure for a harris should only be used to call the back over a long distance, or as an "insurance" if the bird gets a spook or if you fly it too high and does a bunk on you (its more likely to come to a lure than the fist, ive had personal experiance with that one ;) ).

a good lure for a harris should be about 8-10 inches long and sort of tube shaped, like a training dummy for dogs, only made of leather and have ties for attaching food. i like them to be a bit soft and squishy, the bird will enjoy "kiling" it more.

getting a harris hunting by training it to a lure/dummy bunny is, in my opinion, counterbenifical, hindering progress more that helping.

the bird should be fed off a dragged rabbit carcas and given easy slips on rabbit and pheasant. most harris seem to take on pheasants with little encouragement.

[Pearl]

A tortoise lol sorry couldn't resist itpmsl:supz:

[LadyHawke]

You could always use a feathered lure, the likes of which the longwingers use. I fly my redtail to one, and he is offered it on the swing, and takes it in an overhead pass. This is to say he is not stooped to the lure, rather it is swung for him, and I offer it him on the overhead. I do this for two reasons, one, it is easier to carry around than a dummy bunny, and two, it is swung to attract his attention and given overhead because a dragged or dropped lure can be lost to the hawks sight in heavy cover. He will come through concrete to the lure for the shear pleasure of knocking ten bells out of it, he is so made to it. You will find it a valuable tool if your hawk is on the wrong side of the river etc, or you need a speedy recall for whatever reason. I have had duck wings and partradge wings on mine, and any falconry funiture manufacturer will sell you one. Good luck.

[Gary F]

Bowl of corn ????

nooooo try a dummy bunny,,,,,,

[SBFalconry]

Bowl of corn ????

nooooo try a dummy bunny,,,,,,

:lol::roll:

[Leo 1]

iyuse both swing lure and bunny bunny both work well

[Jiff]

using the lure to recall the bird over vast distances i can hand on heart aggree with, however the bird still needs training to the lure else you may aswell swing a ford mondeo the bird will recognise it as such a waste of time! i personaly use the lure for fittness training, the lures i use resemble nothing of the quarry expected in the field, believe me the harris' hawk can be a funny thing to say the least, if you use a fur covered lure then be prepared to be pacient on the pick up, the bird will view the lure as seriously as it does live quary, and as such the pick up should be done as such, there are loads on here lure training with problems or have givven up lure training because the bird carries or drags the lure, i have to admit the lure provides me with fun between hunting days, however once the bird binds to the lure then i take it very seriously indeed, you could right a book about harris' hawks and the lure so this aint the place to sort out youre needs, however and only in my opinion, train the bird early on to drop onto a normal leather horse shoe type lure for a tit bit, as time goes on get the bird to fly to the lure for it's rations this not only elliminates direct feeding and so reduces the chance of noise (my bird used to hunt at 2lb 4-5 oz she now hunts at 2lb exact) she is still silent, it also increases the birds interest in the lure, go through the manning as normal but for the training shot out the lure occasionaly, the pick up is important believe me! when the bird grasps the lure it will then take it's reward from the front end do not! offer the glove, watch the birds feet, as the feet relax and the bird starts to look at ease offer the glove with a reward she will step/jump up, step over the lure crouch down and stow the lure away.

in a nut shell! there are lots of pit falls but much less with a leather innedible lure than with a fur covered dinner time lure, the lure i use at the minute weighs 1 1/2 pound and is a leather pouch filled with my old jumper, this is suple enough to let her get a grip with her tallons yet heavy enough to make her use her stregth to stop it moving! in the field i still carry a normal leather horse shoe recall lure, as has been said she will come a mile to this lure.:yawinkle:

[Moto]

i always carry a winged lure for my harris as its got him back plenty times when he takes to soaring high and ranging far specially on the windy days.. poor mans telemetry as i call it:supz::roll: