Genuine Bullet Jesses

[Bullet_Jesses]

8)What do real Bullet Jesses look like?

[Falconry Equipment International]

the ones you make :yawinkle:

[Miguel Gomez]

:lol: Your spot on buddy! How do I upload a pic for the uninitiated?

[Gaz]

Hi Jim :finga:

[Bullet_Jesses]

8) Hi Gaz! Been there ! done that! Took the family to Lake Tahoe last year.We went horse riding(complete with cowboy hats) around the ponderosa ranch(home of Bonanza) Erse was sore for a week!!!!!!!!! ha ha

[Sparrow Hawker]

Here's a couple of sets I purchased from the Falconry Fair, never given them a second thought till I read the rave reviews on here, so thought I might give them a try whilst out hunting.

Regards,

HH

[Bullet_Jesses]

8) How much did they charge you ? If you don't mind me asking!
Heres the what the real ones should look like!

[Sparrow Hawker]

Hi Bullet_Jesses,

There not cheap think I paid about £36 for the 2.

What are yours made out of???

Regards,

HH

[OutFlying]

What is the idea behind them ? intended use etc.

[Bullet_Jesses]

8) Heres what the complete system looks like! Notice there are no Knots!
The leash is attached with the aid of a bullet toggle directly to the grommet on the glove.The perch can have either a grommet or swivel to accept the bullet leash! Simple or what? jim.c

[Bullet_Jesses]

8) I invented them about 12 years ago just for making it easier to take my bird out to hunt.They are super fast at installing and removing!As anyone who has used them will tell you! I have used them on dozens of birds over the years.The ones I make right now,can be used successfully in the mews also(unlike the copies) jim.c

[Falconry Equipment International]

8) Hi Gaz! Been there ! done that! Took the family to Lake Tahoe last year.We went horse riding(complete with cowboy hats) around the ponderosa ranch(home of Bonanza) Erse was sore for a week!!!!!!!!! ha ha
Yeah but did the map catch fire! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ( Hope I got the right intro :wink:

[OutFlying]

8) I invented them about 12 years ago just for making it easier to take my bird out to hunt.They are super fast at installing and removing!As anyone who has used them will tell you! I have used them on dozens of birds over the years.The ones I make right now,can be used successfully in the mews also(unlike the copies) jim.c

I take it you need permanent flying jesses then ?

[Bullet_Jesses]

8) They have a strong(uv resistant) outer core thats available in black,blue ,green yellow or grey.A polyester non-rot 165lb test, inner core.They are tangle free(especially on the perch) and are kept spotless by just the wipe of a wet cloth. I have never lost a pair yet! How many of you can say the same about your traditional leather ones?I also make flying bullet jesses that can have a bell or telemetry attached to them. jim.c

[Wightwings]

they look good, sure i saw some on e-bay that claimed to be the original and looked the same.....fancy trying them out........(yes OF me trying something new :roll: :wink: )

[OutFlying]

WW, I'm blushing now :oops:

[Bullet_Jesses]

:) Gents ! If I can get a minumum order of 10 from forum members ? I'll sell them at wholesale. The regular price of bullet jesses are $29.95 plus shipping.Forum price will be just $19.95(10.70GBP) Bulllet jesses, plus leash and bullet swivel retail for $45 Forum price will be just $29.95(16.06 GBP). plus shipping. I accept paypal and delivery will take 5-7 days (based on previous shipments to the UK) jim.c

ps if you saw the same ones on e-bay? They were mine!

[Dave Whitt]

Brilliant invention Bullet Jesses they work fantastically I have used them for 3 years on longwngs, most of my birds are imprints and are free lofted so these worked very well.
Outflying, you asked about permanant flying jessies I have never used them with longwings didnt see a point, but did on the Gos, unfortunatley mine were not origionals and dont look as good would like to try some, so I will happly place an order just need another nine members to want some now.

[Bullet_Jesses]

8) Your right about not using them(flying jesses) on long wings.Most of us here in the states don't but I use them a lot on passage hawks and falcons for just a few weeks after training.My biggest buyers of flying bullet jesses are shortwingers and breeders.Breeders buy them because they come in a variety of colors(sorry colours)and help them identfy their birds more easily plus you can handle them far easier and changing out the jesses is a dawdle.

[OutFlying]

Brilliant invention Bullet Jesses they work fantastically I have used them for 3 years on longwngs, most of my birds are imprints and are free lofted so these worked very well.
Outflying, you asked about permanant flying jessies I have never used them with longwings didnt see a point, but did on the Gos, unfortunatley mine were not origionals and dont look as good would like to try some, so I will happly place an order just need another nine members to want some now.

I was asking with shortwings in mind, but don't like the idea of permanent flying jesses.

[Bullet_Jesses]

8) They are about 1/8" dia smooth as a baby's and have no slits.Virtually impossible to get hung-up!

[Dave Whitt]

My permanat jessies arnt really permanat just a thin strap about 7" long with a hole punched in one end, at the start of the day I put them throught the eylet on the anklet and feed them back on themselfs so secure then take them off again at the end of the day as you would with a transmitter.

[OutFlying]

Maybe i'm missing something here, what is the purpose of the bullet jesses ? when flying do you remove them and then insert flying jesses (as per normal jesses and swivel) ? if so what advantage is there in the system ?

With your type of flying jesses how do you secure the gos to your glove when flying in company ?

[Dave Whitt]

The bullet jessie allows you to secure the bird to the fist quickley and safley without having to remove your flying jessies, so when flying longwing whilst the bird is hooded on the fist it is secure then when a point is found it can released quickley and secured quickley and easily when on a lure or kill, the same applies to a shortwing when the bird is on a kill it can be secured in a matter of 3 - 4 seconds, I also fly the gos from the car window at corvids the bullet allows the bird to be secure on the fist then when a crow / magpie is spotted on the side of the verge some 200 yrds in front the bird is ready to slip in a matter on 2 seconds.
Try some, there Grrrrrrrrrate

[OutFlying]

as you describe with the gos, what type of flying jess where you using and how are they fitted ?

[Bullet_Jesses]

Jackobean You beat me to it! heres what I was going to say anyway!

8) OUTFLY Here’s the deal ! Bullet jesses were originally designed to enable you to transport your bird safely tethered on the glove to go hunting. Instead of untying your leash then removing the swivel then the jesses from each anklet, you simply insert the bullet(replaced the old leather knot) that’s on the jesses back through the grommet on your birds leg.Presto! your birds loose! Once you have hunted you simply re-insert the bullet end of the jesses(remember that the leash ,the swivel and bullet jesses are all still connected) It takes a good 3 -4 seconds to tether your bird to the glove.How fast are you with regular jesses/leash/swivel? I have since (using the bullet concept) made proper flying jesses. That comprises of 2 separate jesses (plastic coated with the same bullet end) that have no slit or any irregular features to them that would cause the bird to get hung-up.They do have a metal stop(close to the bullet) that prevents the bird from removing them at any time.

[OutFlying]

I don't go into the field with mews jesses and swivel / leash - just flying jesses with a small hole for the clip.

As you describe the fast removal of the bullet jesses - where are the flying jesses, are these permanent on the anklets ?

[Miguel Gomez]

8) Yes ! Bullet "Flying Jesses" mean just that! The bird has them on whilst hunting !

[Wightwings]

don't go into the field with mews jesses and swivel / leash - just flying jesses with a small hole for the clip.

same here but my flying straps are a perm fixture on the anklets, just take of the mews jesses before going out and back on after. in effect the bird has four "jesses" on whilst not flying. thats why i wouldlike to try the bullet system

[OutFlying]

WW, thanks for that - that what I don't want permanent flying built into the anklets. Especially as the imprint gos spent half his time in the bath. I like the flying jesses to be as thin and short as possible and usually dry them off on the radiator to make them stiff.

That's what I'm asking - once the bullet jesses are off - are flying jesses inserted or are they built into the anklets ?

[Wightwings]

i suppose its your own choice but does seem to me that having to take off the bullets and THEN put on flying straps sort of defeats the object of them :?: my birds spent a lot of time bathing to and the straps are thin, never had a problem with them. :yawinkle:

[OutFlying]

i suppose its your own choice but does seem to me that having to take off the bullets and THEN put on flying straps sort of defeats the object of them :?: my birds spent a lot of time bathing to and the straps are thin, never had a problem with them. :yawinkle:

Agreed - with the permanent flying its probably more a personal preference and the visual sight of 4 jesses on the hawk at perch doesn't look the best but most likely work well.

OF.

[Dave Whitt]

I use bullet jessie but not permanant flying jessies, I made a thin leather strap about 7" long and abour 1/4" thick with a hole punched in one end and a point on the other. Just before going into the field I feed the pointed end of the strap through the eylet on the anklet, then the point is fed through the hole in the other end of the strap thus creating a loop that pulls tight to the anklet, beconing a thin flying jessie, this method still allows the bullet to pass through the eyelet whilst in the field. At the end of the day it can be removed and the bird either free lofted with just anklets (as are mine) or the mews jessies, swivel and leash replaced so the bird can be tethered without a load of straps hanging round it`s legs.

[OutFlying]

I use bullet jessie but not permanant flying jessies, I made a thin leather strap about 7" long and abour 1/4" thick with a hole punched in one end and a point on the other. Just before going into the field I feed the pointed end of the strap through the eylet on the anklet, then the point is fed through the hole in the other end of the strap thus creating a loop that pulls tight to the anklet, beconing a thin flying jessie, this method still allows the bullet to pass through the eyelet whilst in the field. At the end of the day it can be removed and the bird either free lofted with just anklets (as are mine) or the mews jessies, swivel and leash replaced so the bird can be tethered without a load of straps hanging round it`s legs.

Thanks that a bit clearer, so is the main purpose of the bullet jesses either fast removal and replacement or a tangle free system for tethering or both of the forementioned ?

[Woody1966]

Jim, do you sell your bullet jesses thro' ebay? Cos I think I may have a set, really nice looking with aluminium bullets and leather shrouding, to be honest I've never used them cos I don't want to get them spoilt!! :D

[Bullet_Jesses]

8) Yes I do woody! and those leather ones were special, I only made about 12 pair.Your right, about not wanting to use them much, but they do look smart.You could show them off at a falconry fair though. Just got an e-mail from my buddy in Kansas(Tim Hickok) he has just hatched out his first white gyr(www.gyrs.com see pic) He said there are another 17 babies on the way.I told him that to celebrate I would make him a one of a kind, solid gold bullet jesses with the kangaroo leather for his first youngun. jim.c

[Woody1966]

Well if they're a limited edition I'm certainly not going to use them then.... could be worth a fortune in the future..... :supz: Seriously though, they do look the biz!! I've also got a couple of sets of 'everyday' bullet jesses but am always on the lookout for new kit, do you have a website?

[Bullet_Jesses]

8) Not yet ! If you go to the this link on e-bay you'lle see the latest bullet jesses on there! Let me know if you can access it ! Sometimes they don't show up in the UK. Cut and paste ! cheers Jim.C http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=310&item=715626171 6&rd=1

[Woody1966]

Yeah, no problems getting to it Jim, looks good, I may have to raid my piggy bank, or rather the kids piggy bank... :lol:

[Dave Whitt]

Thanks that a bit clearer, so is the main purpose of the bullet jesses either fast removal and replacement or a tangle free system for tethering or both of the forementioned ?

I use them for quick removal and replacement, I belive they work very for teathering but personally I have never tried them in this way as I very rarley ever teather my birds

Try a set I dont think you will be dissapointed especially if your going to have a go at corvids out the car which is b****y brilliant flying

[Bullet_Jesses]

8) Gents! the latest ones do it all.They even have a bullet leash(read on e-bay) that attaches directly to the glove/perch.It's sometimes hard to imagine I know ! but trust me on this.It's taken years to get them to this level.I have used the latest on a passage prairie for almost 6 months and not a scratch.This new pvc sheathing is the biz.They can't pick at it like do with traditional leather.No one else makes them like this! cheers Jim.C

[Dave Whitt]

Bullet Jesses (I was going to put BJ for short but this may be insulting) do you have any pics

[Bullet_Jesses]

Don't do those myself ! but the guy sitting about 10 feet from me would be a prime candidate! LOL Click on this Jacko (sorry) Jackobean !http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=310&item=715626171 6&rd=1

[Dave Whitt]

They look the Muts Nuts mate, are they still flexable with the coating and do they get slippy when wet.

[Bullet_Jesses]

8) Probably do mate! just be careful not to stand on them!!!! LOL

[Bullet_Jesses]

8) Gaz ! Has been initiated! He's now a "Bullet Jesser" He has just bought 2 pair through paypal, from me. He'll have them in less than a week. Have nice weekend chaps!!!!!!!!!!

[Gaz]

Gaz ! Has been initiated
Been using bullets for a few years now,only for hunting though,still wouldnt tether with um,personal choice,..ordered some of the flyers ,to give um a go :mrgreen: