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Yarak_Eric
12-12-2008, 11:57 PM
Well I'm a bit bummed. I went home over my break at work and found Chet my MRT with a broken tail feather. I blame myself on this one as I didn't tye a very secure not. Will make sure this never happens again. I have this really bad feeling of dissapointment that I let my bird down with this. I know that I'll be able to imp the feather and we'll be back to new, but I still can't help feeling real bad about it all.

Apprentice mistake and one that I will and have definatly learned from. Just thought I'd share that. :cry:




Harris
12-12-2008, 11:59 PM
Well I'm a bit bummed. I went home over my break at work and found Chet my MRT with a broken tail feather. I blame myself on this one as I didn't tye a very secure not. Will make sure this never happens again. I have this really bad feeling of dissapointment that I let my bird down with this. I know that I'll be able to imp the feather and we'll be back to new, but I still can't help feeling real bad about it all.

Apprentice mistake and one that I will and have definatly learned from. Just thought I'd share that. :cry:

Boost yourself up by imping him, S*** happens :yawinkle:

Yarak_Eric
13-12-2008, 12:07 AM
Boost yourself up by imping him, S*** happens :yawinkle:

Thanks for the response. I know **** happens....now I need to find a deck feather. Anyone got any red-tail feathers to spare this way?

Harris
13-12-2008, 12:08 AM
Thanks for the response. I know **** happens....now I need to find a deck feather. Anyone got any red-tail feathers to spare this way?

Put a thread up in he wanted section, I'm sure somebody will help out.

Sophie
13-12-2008, 12:16 AM
dont worry about it.. bird break feathers all the time :D.. can you imp the bit that has come off straight back in at the point where it broke till you get a spare replacement feather. it may not look as good but your better off doing that as a temp measure asap as having a gap weakens the other feathers and you cud risk more breakage.

good luck

Yarak_Eric
13-12-2008, 12:49 AM
dont worry about it.. bird break feathers all the time :D.. can you imp the bit that has come off straight back in at the point where it broke till you get a spare replacement feather. it may not look as good but your better off doing that as a temp measure asap as having a gap weakens the other feathers and you cud risk more breakage.

good luck

I'll have to check when I get back home. I was on such a small break that I had to run in, get him untied, and then retie him with a more secure knot. I swear to never forget my falconer's knot or be in such a hurry again! Anyway, this deck feather was already weakened as it did have a bend in it from the time he was trapped. I was hoping we'd be able to ride it out until the moult, however it looks like the stress just finished the job. The feather is still dangling and I'm not sure about getting it imped in right now, but I'll sure give it a try. I'll have to contact my mentor and get a second opinion before I try anything myself. Wouldn't want to make things worse without the imping experience myself. Here and I thought I'd prepared so much for this all....goes to show that booksmarts isn't field smarts.

KKLouiseKK
13-12-2008, 12:53 AM
Stuff like this happens mate dont worry at the end of the day it could be worse! my fhh broke a wing primary first day i brought her down from moult and it wasnt possible to imp it! But we move on hehe

OutHawkn
13-12-2008, 01:04 AM
Well I'm a bit bummed. I went home over my break at work and found Chet my MRT with a broken tail feather. I blame myself on this one as I didn't tye a very secure not. Will make sure this never happens again. I have this really bad feeling of dissapointment that I let my bird down with this. I know that I'll be able to imp the feather and we'll be back to new, but I still can't help feeling real bad about it all.

Apprentice mistake and one that I will and have definatly learned from. Just thought I'd share that. :cry:

Its a broken feather , not the end of the world.....................
I will check tomorrow and see if I have a feather..........

Yarak_Eric
13-12-2008, 01:04 AM
Thanks for all the kind words. Good to know there's comfort from those with experience. I'm already feeling much better about the situation. If only I didn't have 2 and a half more hours at work to finish out my 13 hour block. Ick...at least I'll have all day tommorow to work with Chet!

OutHawkn
13-12-2008, 01:21 AM
Thanks for all the kind words. Good to know there's comfort from those with experience. I'm already feeling much better about the situation. If only I didn't have 2 and a half more hours at work to finish out my 13 hour block. Ick...at least I'll have all day tommorow to work with Chet!

If I can't find passage, will adult do?

Yarak_Eric
13-12-2008, 01:45 AM
I would think that it probably would. I know passage feathers are a bit longer than haggard, but I can augment the size of the part I'm imping. I think the break is only about three inches up.

OutHawkn
13-12-2008, 02:53 AM
I would think that it probably would. I know passage feathers are a bit longer than haggard, but I can augment the size of the part I'm imping. I think the break is only about three inches up.
Doesnt matter where the break is, imp the whole feather. It'll do better......
http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=53522&highlight=imping&page=2

Yarak_Eric
13-12-2008, 03:23 AM
Doesnt matter where the break is, imp the whole feather. It'll do better......
http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=53522&highlight=imping&page=2

Not questioning your knowledge as I've never done so...but I tend to just follow my mentor's advice. What is your reason for imping the whole feather? Mentor tend's to think that if you imp less than you have more room for it to break but if you imped the whole thing and it broke at the point where you imped it, then you'd be done for the season. I could understand that it would make the whole feather more structurally stable, except that imping point. Again I don't know what I'm talking about that's why I ask.

OutHawkn
13-12-2008, 03:31 AM
Not questioning your knowledge as I've never done so...but I tend to just follow my mentor's advice. What is your reason for imping the whole feather? Mentor tend's to think that if you imp less than you have more room for it to break but if you imped the whole thing and it broke at the point where you imped it, then you'd be done for the season. I could understand that it would make the whole feather more structurally stable, except that imping point. Again I don't know what I'm talking about that's why I ask.

You should follow his advice..then later you can make up your own mind.

Your mentor is right, if you imp less you will have more feather to imp not "if" it breaks again, but "when" it breaks again. The feather flex's when in flight. Now when you imp the feather it has a section ( the imp) that no longer flexs's under stress( in flight) so you can bet it will break again. Now if you imp the feather near the base it doesnt flex as much there, so the remaining feather has all the flex of a natural feather. They tend to last as well as the next feather to it. Should it break, no matter imp it again.............

HawkMom
13-12-2008, 09:19 PM
Your young RT will be more prone to feather breakage due to several factors. One it is reacting to it's new environment and stressing the feathers more. The quality of immature feathers is also weaker, due to them all growing in at once.

As Greg and your mentor said, the whole feather imp it the best way to go. It is not that difficult to do once you get it situated. Maybe you can also put on a tail saver for your bird while you are away.