Rats In Chambers

[VerticalStoop]

Hi Guys,

Hope this is the right place.

I've got a rat or more running in and out of my breeding chambers. I can't see where they are living but the runs are all over the place.

Can anyone suggest a way to get rid of them.

I've baited live catch traps and was successful a couple of times, but they just ignore it now. Any advise would be much appreciated.

ATB VS

[Keith Barker]

make a tunnel out of plywood the shape of a "u" and turn it upside down with a fenn trap inside over where the rats are running, rat runs in one end and does not come out of the other!
safe for poultry and other animals in the garden.
keith

[HorseBox]

What you need to do is build tunnels with red bricks or something put fen traps in them make sure the hawks can not get there head or foot in and make sure there of a decent length round the edges of the chamber are bests and of course make sure that it fits the trap and that it can snap shut with out hindrance and cut the hawks food so there is only food on the trap

[Skylark]

Get some fine ckicken wire and staple to avairy base about a foot wide and bury about an inch under the ground. The rats come along dig down and come across wire and give up they haven't got the sense to move back that foot. It has worked for me for the past 15 months on all my pens and I am on a farm.

[VerticalStoop]

Cheers boys,

All good stuff, will get on it tomorrow.

Very kind regards VS

[Venividevenatio]

Try sprinkling cocoa powder in the tunnel.

[Falconry Equipment International]

also to help cut down the different possible entry and exit points for the rats , bung the holes up with wire wool.. they hate it , other wsie do as others have suggested.. never heard of the cocoa pwder?

[VerticalStoop]

Try sprinkling cocoa powder in the tunnel.

What does this do. Does it attract them?

ATB VS

[IAmTheWeasel]

If they are in the chamber, why arent the birds killing them......? Best rat traps you can get....:rolleyes::roll::lol:

[UglyBear]

put ferret s..t in the runs that stops them

[FalconGriff]

The problem is they are going into the pens for food and you can't stop putting DOC's in!! Once they are going into the pens (and breeding) you have real problems as they will always take chicks rather than the rat poison in the tunnels. We had it so badly here on one occasion that the sods were taking eggs from underneath a sitting Red Tail!! I had to do something. We went into the pens, caught the birds up and dug with terriers till I was sure we had shifted all of them from within the pen area. We then dug round the outside of the pen and buried one Tyweld which extended six inches deep and two foot from the sides of the pen under ground. Around the outside of the pens we have bait site which are never allowed to run out of poison as the rats can become immune to the poison if they take it in non fatal dose . Now we don't have any problem any strays try to dig straight down and hit the wire while running round the outside they pass hungry through the bait sites and are killed. Expensive and a trouble yes, but a lot less than not picking up fertile eggs!! You must get on top of your problem fast because they can breed at an incredible rate and you will soon be over run with them

[Jan1]

If you're thinking of setting tunnel Traps then the No. 4 Fenn Trap is the one for rats. I sprinkle chicken pellets or such like over them & they work a treat.

[FalconGriff]

I have used poison for over 30 years and never had a problem - only problem has been for the rats!!

[Kentish Falconry]

We have had a problem with Rats for years, We smoke them out and use the terriers on them, we also set traps both live catch and Fens but we just can't shift them we allow members of the local Gun Club to shoot them with Air Guns all to no avail as soon as we kill off one lot another batch moves in.
The damage they do is amazing, we have fitted steel sheets but they just find another way in within a few days even tunnelling in under a 25 ft concrete slab, they climb 8 feet walls and get in through the roof. The new block we are building now has deep concrete foundations with concrete blocks in an effort to keep them out I wonder how long it will take for them to find a way in.
We have to be careful when using poisons that they don't die in the chambers or become so weak that they can't get out of the chambers and the birds nail them as soon as the sun comes up.
Just what to do about them I don't know
Terry

[Hacker]

We have had a problem with Rats for years, We smoke them out and use the terriers on them, we also set traps both live catch and Fens but we just can't shift them we allow members of the local Gun Club to shoot them with Air Guns all to no avail as soon as we kill off one lot another batch moves in.
The damage they do is amazing, we have fitted steel sheets but they just find another way in within a few days even tunnelling in under a 25 ft concrete slab, they climb 8 feet walls and get in through the roof. The new block we are building now has deep concrete foundations with concrete blocks in an effort to keep them out I wonder how long it will take for them to find a way in.
We have to be careful when using poisons that they don't die in the chambers or become so weak that they can't get out of the chambers and the birds nail them as soon as the sun comes up.
Just what to do about them I don't know
Terry
Get in a professional lol!!!!!!!!!

[Hacker]

Try sprinkling cocoa powder in the tunnel.

I cannot think of a better way to attract them.:supz:

[GSPDad]

Use Eradibait as supplied by us :lol:
Works a treat and safe for the birds! You have to be consistent using it.

George.

[Venividevenatio]

What does this do. Does it attract them?

ATB VS

Rodents love the smell of chocolate. Cocoa powder is cheap. If you sniff some commercial poisons you will get a wiff of chocolate. ie Sakarat

[VerticalStoop]

If they are in the chamber, why arent the birds killing them......? Best rat traps you can get....:rolleyes::roll::lol:

I asked myself the same question, but these are breeders and where game hawks. I don't feed rat, so I guess they don't know what there are. It would be a who;e lot easier if they did sort them out lol.

ATB VS

[VerticalStoop]

The problem is they are going into the pens for food and you can't stop putting DOC's in!! Once they are going into the pens (and breeding) you have real problems as they will always take chicks rather than the rat poison in the tunnels. We had it so badly here on one occasion that the sods were taking eggs from underneath a sitting Red Tail!! I had to do something. We went into the pens, caught the birds up and dug with terriers till I was sure we had shifted all of them from within the pen area. We then dug round the outside of the pen and buried one Tyweld which extended six inches deep and two foot from the sides of the pen under ground. Around the outside of the pens we have bait site which are never allowed to run out of poison as the rats can become immune to the poison if they take it in non fatal dose . Now we don't have any problem any strays try to dig straight down and hit the wire while running round the outside they pass hungry through the bait sites and are killed. Expensive and a trouble yes, but a lot less than not picking up fertile eggs!! You must get on top of your problem fast because they can breed at an incredible rate and you will soon be over run with them

Cheers Griff,

Great advise. I was up in Scotland a few months back seeing a buddy and he lost a new pair to rats. I thought it may have been Mink, but the traps proved a rat problem. No more rats needless to say. All week we battered them.

ATB VS

[VerticalStoop]

We have had a problem with Rats for years, We smoke them out and use the terriers on them, we also set traps both live catch and Fens but we just can't shift them we allow members of the local Gun Club to shoot them with Air Guns all to no avail as soon as we kill off one lot another batch moves in.
The damage they do is amazing, we have fitted steel sheets but they just find another way in within a few days even tunnelling in under a 25 ft concrete slab, they climb 8 feet walls and get in through the roof. The new block we are building now has deep concrete foundations with concrete blocks in an effort to keep them out I wonder how long it will take for them to find a way in.
We have to be careful when using poisons that they don't die in the chambers or become so weak that they can't get out of the chambers and the birds nail them as soon as the sun comes up.
Just what to do about them I don't know
Terry

Terry,

I'm sorry to hear your situation. I's agree, short of putting in very deep concrete bases and building the chambers out of block (Which I'm not in a position to do re PLANNING PERMISSION:mad:) I thing its trapping feast.

Thanks for your comments and I hope that the new build proves it's worth.
PS ATB for next season.

Regards VS