Home Made Gloves

[Tim Laycock]

Thought I would have a crack at a glove, this is it, it took 4.5 hours from from scratch.
I made the glove with spars in mind but it would no doubt do for anything small. I have always wanted to make a glove like this as I thought they would be very comfortable(they are!). As a child I was shown such a glove that was given to its owner by Jack Mavrogordato, it was a horrible smelly old thing but (I think partly because of this fact) it stuck in my mind.
The pattern was very easy to make.
All I did was copy the thumb of my standard hawking glove to get a thumb pattern, stich it into a sheet of chrome tanned leather large enough to fit my hand, put it on and fold it over my hand, splay my fingers in a kind of "Live long and prosper" Vulcan salute and draw around them on the palm side then cut this out. Then I did the same with the back of the hand.
The fourchet has a straight strip 3/4" wide.
The D ring was fashioned from a coat hanger.I assembled the glove with leather adhesive prior to stiching it.

[Tim Laycock]

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[Tallons]

good glove have you got a patern for it , the shape always reminds me of a oven glove but hey if its for a small price compared to the price of name brand ones , its worth the time and efort making one ! wach this space ile make one and it will look like a boxing glove ;) ............

[Tim Laycock]

good glove have you got a patern for it , the shape always reminds me of a oven glove but hey if its for a small price compared to the price of name brand ones , its worth the time and efort making one

Cheap as chips mate!
It cost about £3.50
I aint got a pattern for the glove but all you need to do is sew a thumb into a piece of leather and then make it up as you go.
the best thing about the shape is that there is half as much stiching in it as there is in a conventional glove.

wach this space ile make one and it will look like a boxing glove


So long as it works and is cheap its cool in my book 8) :mrgreen:

[Ben C]

Blackbird that is the same glove pattern that Machan uses in the Hollinshead book 'hunting with golden eagles' and Jack merlin was on about the the other day. If its good enough for the hunting with golden eagles on the russian steppe and good enough for Jack Movrogodato I think you'll find it suitable for you. Bring it along to the meet I'd like to see it in the 'flesh' as it were.

[Tim Laycock]

I couldnt say if it was the same pattern Benc as I havn't read the book.
The pattern Jack Merlin mentioned was (I think) similar to the one on p35 figure 12 of Falconry and Hawking by Phillip Glasier. IMO suitable for Muskets,Shikras and merlins etc, but for something with a slightly larget foot print such as a female spar or a coopers I think you need a bit more.
I tried a small glove like the one in the book a lot of years ago but with a female spar on the fist I always had to be very carefull how I carried my hand or she ended up off the leather and I got "pinned". :lol:
(Then again my hand was somewhat smaller then) :lol:
good enough for Jack Movrogodato I think you'll find it suitable for you
I agree Benc, this more than qualifies it as good enough. I have just re-read his autobiography, I would have liked to of met the man as Im sure I would have enjoyed his company (I doubt if he would have enjoyed my endless questions :lol: ) He certainly led an interesting and varied life.

Totaly off topic but its a funny old world isnt it?
I had the above autobiography as a child but it disappeared.
I bought a copy on E bay a couple of weeks ago(for £16 :x ).
It was the same bloody copy (it even had some of my old notes inside, Pencil written in a very childlike cursive script) :roll:
Sometimes the world shocks me its great size,other times I think it very small indeed. :D :D

[Ben C]

You were born to do it mate. God shined on you as a child and saw fit to bless you again.....Hail the lord.....for he is great and we are weak.....HAIL HAIL the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY... :lol: :wink: :wink: Well it is sunday........

[Tim Laycock]

The eagle glove is very similar isnt it (though a tad more heavy duty than my effort) :)
I wouldnt want to sew one of those as the one I made has worn the skin on my finger and thumb right down to the meat :lol: (seriously)

I can understand the right handed glove thing, Carrying a lump like that all day cant be easy!!!

[Jack Merlin]

Mavrogordato: I would have liked to of met the man as Im sure I would have enjoyed his company

Be careful what you say!<g> The man was a homosexual and was refused entry to a hotel when he turned up with his Sudanese "falconer" (a rather good looking boy in his early twenties). I found Mavro rather pompous and dismissive. He also used one of my photos without permission or acknowledgement which I never forgave him for. Frankly, I did not like him -- though I admit he was a VERY good falconer.

Spent most of one afternoon with him driving around Salisbury Plain looking for a rook for his saker. There were bloody rooks everywhere! But he would not slip the falcon until we found one on passage, up wind, and with no trees for miles. Then there was a hell of a flight. Seemed to go on for ages!

The skeletion glove is certainly not suitable for anything larger than a spar. But it is cheap and easy to make and covering only the wrist, thumb, and first two fingers, it would be ideal in a hot climate. If they get dirty, just throw them away and make another. I use welders' gloves for the gos. The only time I had a "real" glove (and very expensive!) I lost the damned thing on the hill and had to take a peregrine home on a bare fist. Ouch! I will never again spent big money on hawking equipment unless its essential (like telemetry).

[Varmint]

And we can change your name to "Pigsey" Tim, just like the old "Monkey" series with a Glove that looks like that?? :lol:

You could market them as "flying Trotters" :lol: 8)

[Tim Laycock]

though I admit he was a VERY good falconer.
This is why I think I would have liked the man Jack.
Even so- I certainly dont advocate "dropping anchor" in "poo bay" :roll: :lol:

You could market them as "flying Trotters"
I like that Varmint, can I use it??
Its certainly better than "falconers mitten" :mrgreen:

[Ben C]

Blackbird....That would make you the androgynous leader 'Tripitaka' the buddist monk. I on the other hand would be samaadee the water demon.
'poo bay' indeed :) :) :)

[Tim Laycock]

'poo bay' indeed
Some times I wonder about myself Benc! :oops: :lol:
More often than not I wonder about others!!! :rolleyes: :mrgreen: :lol:

[Tim Laycock]

Any advances on "Flying Trotters"??? :D

[OutFlying]

Mutant Mitt - if you had it on you'd look like the bloke out of Total Recall. :lol: Maybe ok for the Sellafield field meet....................

[Jack Merlin]

Some mates of mine were putting a sheet steel floor in a horsebox yesterday. The man handling the sheet steel was wearing some very nice gauntlets. They had a name stencilled on the side. "Rhinos" or something. I really must check as they looked just the job for handling the larger hawks. Clearly something designed for handling tough materials like steel sheeting...

[Tim Laycock]

I must admit Jack, Welding gloves and the like worry me a little.
Welding gloves are fine in principle ie:- cheap, serviceable, durable yet disposable.
However many brands of welding gloves are now made from leather impregnated with a combination of chemicals to improve its "slow burn"properties.
I know these chemicals are covered by the COSHH regulations and the drums they are supplied in bear the little orange label with the black leafless tree and the dead fish in the lake :shock:

Dont get me wrong, Im not saying that welding gloves should be ruled out. they shouldnt, At least not if you can ascertain what has gone into their manufacture.
I like the idea of using a welding glove for feeding on the fist so as not to spoil a made to measure, comfy glove that you have destroyed your fingertips sewing together. In practice though I dont think I couldnt be bothered with all the chopping and changing because Im too lazy :roll: :)

[Jack Merlin]

Each to his own. I'm afraid it is not something I will lose much sleep over.

There are a lot of fancy diagnoses for illness when the truth of the matter is that bad management is more often the cause of the problem.

[Tim Laycock]

Each to his own. I'm afraid it is not something I will lose much sleep over.
Didn't think you would for a moment Jack :wink:

There are a lot of fancy diagnoses for illness when the truth of the matter is that bad management is more often the cause of the problem
This is another one of the "print it out and frame it" variety Jack
Good one :D

[Moses]

looks good i didnt know ninja turtles were into falconry :D

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[GriffMJ]

pmsl

[Finnish]

:lol: :lol:

[Tim Laycock]

Good grief :roll: :lol:

[North East Harris Hawker]

i dont think i have ever seen anybody with a home wade glove... i know it can be done but who could be arrsed?
welding glove? ok its a bit downmarket but i suppose it would do as a standby :roll:

[Tim Laycock]

i know it can be done but who could be arrsed?

Me!!!!
Remember- Copper wire was discovered bu two yorkshiremen fighting over the same penny- One of them was an ancestor of mine

[North East Harris Hawker]

hehe 50 pence pieces are hexagonal so that you can get them out of my hand with a spanner, but i still have a proper glove :wink:

[Tim Laycock]

but i still have a proper glove

So did I!!!!!!!! :roll:

But now I have two!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

[North East Harris Hawker]

tight wad! i bet your from west yorkshire :lol:

[Finnish]

:lol: :lol:

[North East Harris Hawker]

these boys from down the west country have got pots of money though... i saw them at the falconry fair cutting around the place in their tweed, bety they wouldnt be seen dead in a home made glove!

[Finnish]

Martin jones and pineo for me my friend.

[Tim Laycock]

tight wad! i bet your from west yorkshire

How did you reach that conclusion NEHH?? :mrgreen: :roll: :lol: lmao

[Tim Laycock]

Quote]Martin jones and pineo for me my friend.


Wilkinsons and George :supz: :lol: :lol: :lol: Pmsl

[North East Harris Hawker]

heheheh :lol:
yes i managed to scrape a few coins together to buy bits and bobs at the fair, i bought more bells that i dont even need :x
they were shiny though and i just had to have them :roll:

[Tim Laycock]

Magpie! :lol:

[North East Harris Hawker]

i know, cant resist shiny things :roll:

[Wilfred]

Hello,

I like the pattern of blackbird a lot and will certainly try making such a glove for sparrowhawk in the next month or so. But currently I am still looking for some good pattern for a normal type of falconry glove for falcon or (gos) hawk. I know there is some pattern in Philip Glasiers book, but I also know there should be more available at falconers here on the forum.

So please if someone has one or has some idea's how to get one, please mention it. Either here or, if you do not want to, by PM to me. I only need the pattern for own use and if required I will not even give it to anybody else just keeping it solely for own use.

Every pattern for making the normal falconry glove is highly appreciated!!!

[Tim Laycock]

Wilfred
My pattern for a Sparrowhawk at the start of this thread will serve just as well for a Goshawk if you make it a little longer, use thicker leather and overlay it.
The advantage of this pattern over the "conventional" hawking glove is that there is less sewing involved. This carrys over to the overlay too as you only have to do the side of one finger instead of the sides of three.
Because of this extra work, Many shop bought "conventional" hawking gloves simply dont have fourchets of double thickness wich is a bit of a poor showing, especialy if you intend to use a female Goshawk with the glove!!