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ColdZero
03-06-2005, 01:33 AM
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RabbitHawker
03-06-2005, 07:28 AM
I would think that they would be similar to German Gos's as we are on a similar lattitude to there, I guess if really interested you could get info from Victorian taxidermy cases which are probably the best record for you.

Dude
03-06-2005, 02:26 PM
I think there are no differece, the only diference what I see that if I catch a gos in northern Hungary its quite lighter in colour and bigger but with shorter fingers...if I catch one at southern Hungary(its a small country....)the most of them are darker with longer fingers and less weight.... but in the most of the cases they are veryvery similar maybe the hybrids of the subspecies here...but that just what I think I am not an ornithologist just a birdlover/falconer :)

Bill
03-06-2005, 10:47 PM
From what I have heard the gosses released in the UK would have been mainly of german origin.

There will be no pure british gosses as they were extinct in the uk for almost 100 years.

Sean
03-06-2005, 10:58 PM
"It is safe to assume hawking was already familiar in Ireland before the twelfth century and written references abound from the twelfth century on.
Ireland supplied the nobility of Western Europe with peregrines and goshawks until early modern times and the aristocracy of several nations brought their hawks here to hunt.

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interesting :D

Moses
04-06-2005, 02:34 AM
yes their are a good few, didnt u read the news a few guys got down in , the gamekeepers last yr and one before, coz the goshawks were keep on killing their pheasants so the guys decided to poison the carcass's of a few pheasants and killed the goshawks and one of them got done for sure

it was even reported in the basc or whatever mag that is , i used to be a member their for airguns etc etc

ColdZero
04-06-2005, 07:10 AM
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Tim Laycock
04-06-2005, 01:50 PM
I would think that they would be similar to German Gos's as we are on a similar lattitude to there
Makes perfect sense to me :D

Moses
04-06-2005, 09:00 PM
there are gosses wild in britain, but they have either been released or are escaped falconry birds. So not the native ones.

nice one :) my mate down south just started falconry and he got confused thinking this was a goshawk coz of its eyes

its a sparrowhawk aint it

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v50/freedomfighter/kuzwingsparrow.jpg

Tim Laycock
04-06-2005, 09:16 PM
its a sparrowhawk aint it

It is. And she's a very pretty girl :D

Moses
04-06-2005, 09:25 PM
thanks mate she is def a beauty :) does anyone keep them for hunting too in the uk

cheers

OutFlying
04-06-2005, 09:25 PM
oh yes

Moses
04-06-2005, 09:28 PM
cool , never ever seen one for sale so far on the ibr or the other site

their def awesome

BrianM
04-06-2005, 09:36 PM
THE GOSHAWK
in great britain the goshawk was shot, poisoned, and trapped to extinction during the 19th century by gamekeepers. whilst it is true that the goshawk is a formidable predator, most of this prejudice which still exists today was based on an exaggerated opinion of its powers.

of the two british species of true hawk , the goshawk is by far the largest being upto 6 times heavier than the sparrowhawk. a large gos can weigh over 4lbs and have a wingspan of over 5ft :shock: the gos is completely fearless and will take quarry both in the air and on the ground..

current populations for the uk are of about 300 wild pairs


Clive Britcher

OutFlying
04-06-2005, 09:44 PM
4lb - HUGE GOSHAWK, how would it catch anything...................... :wink:

Darren
04-06-2005, 11:11 PM
there is a pair of wild Gos at Formby point killing the red squirrels, been there for some time now

OutFlying
04-06-2005, 11:18 PM
Darren,
On a field meet last year I saw a wild gos in tandem with a eyass goshawk both in pursuit of the same pheasant, the walkie talkies were going berserk trying to find out who had slipped the "second gos". It wasn't until it was realized that all the gosses where accounted for that it was identified as a wild one.
OF.

Darren
04-06-2005, 11:22 PM
they are beautiful birds to watch...hope they are on the come back