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NightOwl
04-06-2005, 05:12 PM
have been showing my pup a couple of quail in the garden for a couple of weeks now and she seems to be getting keener around them all the time.
just wondering how you all progressed with your dogs from being shown game to coming on point at game?
cheers
jason



OutFlying
04-06-2005, 06:05 PM
Jason,
Have you no decent books or video's, if not try this link quite good for vizla / gsp training.
http://www.paulfrenchvideo.com/Basic%20&%20Advanced%20HPR.htm

A good book is Gun-dog training Pointing Dogs by Kenneth C. Roebuck. isbn 0-8117-0714-8

The answer to your original question is most well bred pointers will do it naturally if exposed to enough game, don't forget your dog is pointing on sight at the moment not pointing on air scent. Try hiding the same quail in long grass and bring your dog in from down wind and let her scent the air.
Finnish
04-06-2005, 06:09 PM
Thats a good site Jim.
Wightwings
04-06-2005, 07:46 PM
a very good site Jim. Saved it as a favourite for when i get a dog. cheers
Dave Whitt
04-06-2005, 10:37 PM
another good all round book is "the verstile gundog" by Guy Wallace it is writen in plain english for all to understand
OutFlying
04-06-2005, 11:04 PM
not a patch on the Kenneth Roebuck book.
NightOwl
07-06-2005, 09:32 PM
roebuck book should be delivered in the next few days. cheers of - and NO i haven't got any good books(until the one you recommended turns up) thanks again.
NightOwl
07-06-2005, 09:34 PM
anyone ever seen the tom brechney basic and advanced hpr training dvds?
and if so what are they like?
Dave Whitt
07-06-2005, 09:49 PM
anyone ever seen the tom brechney basic and advanced hpr training dvds?
and if so what are they like?

I have just ordered them I will let you know when they arrive
OutFlying
07-06-2005, 09:53 PM
anyone ever seen the tom brechney basic and advanced hpr training dvds?
and if so what are they like?

Yes nightowl, they are good - that's why I put the link up. Maybe a lot is not applicable due to the retriever training. But a lot of good stuff in both.

Yours Jim.
NightOwl
19-06-2005, 07:54 PM
do alot of the pups from working dog lines point naturally?
or do they still need to be encouraged to point?
OutFlying
19-06-2005, 07:58 PM
do alot of the pups from working dog lines point naturally?
or do they still need to be encouraged to point?

yes and yes.........................
Falcon
19-06-2005, 07:58 PM
I've got a copy of the basic HPR training, and it's very good!