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Hawkmaster
08-06-2005, 06:39 PM
This is from a pigeon forum:

How a white feather can outfox a falcon

Tim Radford, science editor
Thursday April 21, 2005.

When aerial menace zooms in from behind, the feral pigeon does what a dove's got to do - it shows the white feather and stands a better chance of getting clean away, US scientists say.

Albert Palleroni of Harvard University and three colleagues report in Nature today that they set out to solve the puzzle of the white patch often found on the rump of the feral pigeon Columbia livia.

In seven years the researchers recorded 1,485 attacks by five adult peregrine falcons on flocks of feral pigeons flying around Davis, California. They also observed 309 attacks by juveniles. They made a note of the plumage of the luckless target.

And they found that whether the peregrines were at the peak of their powers, or still on a learning curve, the result was the same. Only one dead pigeon in 50 had a set of white feathers on its rump.

The scientists reasoned that the white patch might be an evolutionary adaptation that helped its inheritor to live longer and procreate more. Falcons swoop with fearsome speed: the fastest have been clocked at 157 met res a second - around 320mph.

So they tested the idea by capturing 756 white-rumped and blue-grey pigeons and swapping their plumage coloration. They then released the birds again, and monitored the kill rate of three particular peregrines.

Those birds who could no longer show the white feather fell victim to peregrine strike as often as the blue-coloured pigeons, while the newly whitened showed a much increased ability to survive.

No pigeon can outfly a falcon. They escape by aerobatics. The white patch somehow distracts the peregrine.




Kreyenborgi
07-07-2005, 02:41 PM
Very interesting

Thanks for that info...I´m shocked about the speed!!!, 320 miles per hour????!!!....How did they measured it?...

Bye,

K

Hawkmaster
08-07-2005, 09:27 AM
I would take it with a pinch of salt, as they always try to expand things for their own ends.

Coedhirion
08-07-2005, 11:35 PM
Hang on what do they mean by white rump? a lot of racing pigeons have white above the tail, I have all shades from grey to white and its often the ones with white feathers in tail or wings that go. may be British BOP are cleverer an sharper or got better eyesight! they even started sticking 'eyes' on to the pigeons wings to confuse, but that didnt catch on either.

Jay
09-07-2005, 03:53 AM
I put part of this article in another thread. I have talked with Alberto Palleroni personaly on this subject and it is extreamly intresting. If you can get your hands on the article it is a must read.

http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2005/05.05/01-pigeon.html

Albie
09-07-2005, 07:31 AM
Hey Paul,
What do this Pallerone fella and his mates do for the rest of the year when they finished throwing "Baggies" (Aint that agin the law in the states?) at the Peregrines.
Albie.. :wink:

Jay
09-07-2005, 03:43 PM
Palleroni flys a gyr and a goshawk at wild game during the hunting season. His Gos is the most layed back one I have ever seen. He can put it in his coat and it will just sit there as he walks with its head stick out.

Also baggies are totaly leagel here. Birds like pigeons can be shot, poisoned, captured, or served to a raptor at anytime with out any bag limits.

Jay
10-07-2005, 06:48 AM
Basicly if you didn't read the article I posted the white patch helps by giving the falcon a false target. When you shot gun hunt you must lead your target, same with a falcon. The white patch becomes a target but it is positioned to far back to be of any use for the falcon and it will miss.

At one point during a falcon stoop the falcon actualy outflys its eyesight. It is moving so fast its brain can not process what it is seeing. So at one point in a stoop the falcon is actualy flying blind. This is where that patch comes in, in memory they pick a point on their target. That white patch is an easy target to rember, but it is positioned in the pigeons favor. It would be like you having a target with a bright patch at the back go flying by, if you close your eyes you are going to rember that bright spot and when you reopen your eyes to shoot that is the first thing you will pick up, but since it is at the back of the target you will shoot behind.

If you look at the paper that was written they have scientest that have isolated the specific neurons in the falcons brain that go into this process.

I had to bring my bird into Palleroin for an emergency last season and after he had fixed up my bird I sat and talked with him on this subject for over an hour. So all the info above is some of what I went over with him, in some of the simplified terms and explanations we came up with.

Coedhirion
11-07-2005, 09:30 PM
It sounds interesting and makes sense, in theory, but British racing pigeons get taken by peregrines all the time. Most of mine have white just above the tail feathers, some have some white flight or white tail feathers. If any thing I have lost more of the birds with white on than the darker or black ones. Around here it is a joke that the more white the easier for the falcon to see. I haven't read the article, this is just from my own experience.

Jay
12-07-2005, 06:13 AM
Actualy the reserch shows the oposite. The white gives them a better chance at surviving. As it is somwhat of a false target.

Coedhirion
12-07-2005, 10:46 PM
May be I could try imping a white feather into all the darker one's tail then and they would all come home...wow I could patent it an sell the idea to all the pigeon racers!!!.. :lol: :roll: :yawinkle: Sorry it may be a serious study, but it sure isn't working for GB raing birds :oops: