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ColdZero
02-07-2005, 11:52 PM
i often have small questions not worth making a thread over, and i'm sure others do too. So...just ask them all in one thread.

(this is not a stupid post before you say if blackbird :twisted: :lol: )

i can only think of one...if your hawk escapes and you do everything right, but it nails someones pet or gets into a pigeon loft. What happens? do you just pay for them ands hope nothing else happens or can you be fined for poaching etc...or maybe not even legally responsible.




Adam Barrett
02-07-2005, 11:55 PM
can you hunt 'vermin' on public land without permission as we are the public???? :?

Sprout
02-07-2005, 11:58 PM
if your hawk escapes and you do everything right, but it nails someones pet or gets into a pigeon loft. What happens? do you just pay for them ands hope nothing else happens or can you be fined for poaching etc...or maybe not even legally responsible.
On public land you would probably be liable but join one of the large organisations eg BFC, Countryside Alliance, BASC and at least you'll be covered by their third party insurance

Tim Laycock
03-07-2005, 12:03 AM
this is not a stupid post before you say if blackbird

I diddnt even begin to think it CZ! I think this has the makings of a very worthwile thread indeed!!

I could fill a book with my odd questions thats for sure :rolleyes:

ColdZero
03-07-2005, 12:16 AM
yay thanks :)

if you hunt in a field with a public footpath through it, and a dog walker goes through with the dog off the lead (like everyone does) and it scares your hawk and it attacks...i assume you can't be blamed if you have permission for the land. Also, why can't you fly in public parks?

Tim Laycock
03-07-2005, 12:24 AM
Also, why can't you fly in public parks?
I do! If a dog walker expreses a negative opinion, I tell them to get down and suck it!! :lol:

Sprout
03-07-2005, 12:26 AM
It's all very dodgy ground, if there is a public footpath then the dog walker has as much right as you to be there. It would depend upon who the aggressor was and proving it.
why can't you fly in public parks
Why would you want to? Don't know about around you but parks here only have squirrels and pigeons. Sure way to get your broadwing bitten or encourage tail chasing in your long wing! The last thing the falconry community needs is to hear about someones chihuahua being killed by a hawk!

Tim Laycock
03-07-2005, 12:34 AM
The last thing the falconry community needs is to hear about someones chihuahua being killed by a hawk!
Why would one be in the park
:rolleyes:

Tim Laycock
03-07-2005, 12:34 AM
I think I misread that :oops: pmsl!!

Sprout
03-07-2005, 12:42 AM
Plus think of the hawk. Diamond studded collars might prove difficult to cast up :wink:

Tim Laycock
03-07-2005, 12:47 AM
No they will "Scour the crop and purge her of foul grease" :supz:
(Please ignore the previous statement. I have been drinking heavily since 3.00 this afternoon) :drinkers: :finga: :lol:

ColdZero
03-07-2005, 12:50 AM
i don't mean hunt, i used to go into a huge park called Clumber Park just to exercise my hawk, some areas where great for creance flying. Then an employee said there was no hunting allowed, and after pointing out we were in an empty mown field with a bird on a string he was symaptheitc and actually a nice guy but said BOP are only alowed in if its a display. Seemed stupid...especially when there are roughly an infinite number of dogs running around and messing everywhere. Also, kids loved to see the bird even if they did think it was a golden eagle.

Sprout
03-07-2005, 12:53 AM
Not sure if there are any regulations, best check with your local council. I personally prefer to be somewhere nice and quiet especially when training/bird on creance, less scope for accidents then.

ColdZero
03-07-2005, 12:54 AM
me too, i don't like the attention when people see you either lol. But it is such a big park, the drive way is 3 miles, so there is always empty places and its just a nice place to walk around.

ColdZero
03-07-2005, 12:58 AM
new question, what is this. I can't remember where i got the photo to check.

Sprout
03-07-2005, 01:01 AM
Looks like Crowned Eagle.

Tim Laycock
03-07-2005, 01:07 AM
:shock: African crowned hawk eagle. And the dude with it it obviously a card carying nutcase :!:

Sprout
03-07-2005, 01:09 AM
Isn't that what I said? :wink:

ColdZero
03-07-2005, 01:11 AM
he reminds me of rowan atkinson...

whats the oldest BOP in the country? i just learnt Bald eagles are oldest living bird in the world, i thought it was mackaws. Also whats the oldest HH or gos etc recoded?

Sprout
03-07-2005, 01:13 AM
Bristol zoo had a Griffon vulture aged at least 99 years old.

ColdZero
03-07-2005, 01:17 AM
bloody hell, so is that a big exception or have bald eagles lived longer?

Sprout
03-07-2005, 01:20 AM
No idea. Re-reading it sounds exceptionally long lived but I'm sure thats what I was told. I know bald eagles build the biggest nests, biggest over 2 tonnes!

Tim Laycock
03-07-2005, 01:22 AM
Goshawks do not last much more than 11 years in the wild. The oldest captive bred specimen I have seen for myself was 21 years old. Its eyes were Ferrari red!!!

Redtail
03-07-2005, 09:26 AM
Nice pic mate i also walk around clummber park living in lincoln its only half hour drive.Kids love it in ther to.

ColdZero
03-07-2005, 10:01 AM
Nice pic mate i also walk around clummber park living in lincoln its only half hour drive.Kids love it in ther to.

with your bird? i am there a lot walking my GSP. You can see what i mean about getting away from the public though, its about 3000 acres. Nice place to walk with a hawk following you, and the bloody squirrels :twisted:

Redtail
03-07-2005, 10:06 AM
LOL.No not with my bird well not the bird with wings anyway :oops: Yea thers miles of nice open ground there isnt there.Perfect flying ground.