anyone dealt with this guy

[Moses]

i dont know if the quality is **** or not

but i emailed him right now and waiting for a response for tomorrow

i ordered 3 medium thickness falconry glove

and also 2 arab mangalahs

and anyone dealt with the guy before

http://www.raptorsnest.com/EquipWebs/Usama/Prices.htm

cheers

and pls anyone got ali from here;s email i lost it
im gonna try to get a price aff him too

cheers

[Hawkmaster]

Sounds like Ali?

[OutFlying]

Have you a hawk now Moses ? seems a lot of gloves to order for one self..

[Moses]

mate their cheap i asked him for a discount anyway coz , its a bit dear for pakistan like :D

u can get a saddle for that price :D

hahaha so sorry ali if its u :D didnt mean that but i did ask for a discount

is that def ali guys names usama hassan or something

it would be good to keep em spare a nice clean one for flying and one for training and feeding on the glove and one for the house when its indoors watching tv with me :D

and the mangalah for just coz goldie mentioned them and tuey do look nice maybe use it as a mantelpiece thing or try it out at least

[Moses]

mangalah that arab falconry type glove

http://www.uaeinteract.com/photofile/images/pfb15.jpg

[Lady-Luck]

i dont think it is ali, i have been dealign with him and will continue to do so as his stuff is very good quality and we like it, the only downside is 18 days in postage lol :) the address is different from ali, i can pm you his addy:)

[Shaun Byrne]

I saw somw of Ali swivels over the weekend, very poor compared to the Uk ones, cant comment on the rest of his gear.

[Ali]

Which ones did you see? The new ones? Or the ones i send to AndyUK?
Ali

[BrianM]

mate their cheap i asked him for a discount anyway coz , its a bit dear for pakistan like :D

u can get a saddle for that price :D

hahaha so sorry ali if its u :D didnt mean that but i did ask for a discount

is that def ali guys names usama hassan or something

it would be good to keep em spare a nice clean one for flying and one for training and feeding on the glove and one for the house when its indoors watching tv with me :D

and the mangalah for just coz goldie mentioned them and tuey do look nice maybe use it as a mantelpiece thing or try it out at least

thought i was in for a prezzie there...............lol

[Moses]

lol @ brian :D

well i got a reply from the other lad his name is syed, and he isnt having any :D i asked for a discount thought maybe he may

here is his reply

waalikum asalaam!

If you buy in bulk quantity only then i can give you discount. I am supplying best quality Nubuck and Cowhide gloves in all sizes. You will recieve the shipment in five working days.

4 Double thickness gloves (Medium Size) for falcons and peregrines: 35x4 : 140US$
2 Arabic Mangala in velvet with embroidery per glove: 30x2 : 60US$
Subtotal: 140+60 : 200US$
Frieght & Packing 10% only: 200/10 : 20US$

Total : 200+20 : 220US$

I accept payments through western union or banktransfers.

Regards,
Syed


lady luck thanks alot i will check my pms :)

cheers

[Saker Mad]

has anyone had any dealings with a man called Kurayshe from ak falcon gloves his prices are pretty reasonable but dont like dealing with peeps i dont know about abroad

[Moses]

mate never heard of him where is he from

cheers

[Saker Mad]

pakistan i think

[Ali]

which type of gloves you need mate? and if its ok wht prices did he offer you?
Ali

[OutFlying]

which type of gloves you need mate? and if its ok wht prices did he offer you?
Ali

A pair of driving gloves if his videos are anything to go by :lol:

[Saker Mad]

hese are the prices for all that he sell he has some good looking swivels aswell ive lost the pics but heres the prices

>Hood Us$ 10.00/08.00 pound Uk
>
>Bells per pair Us$ 4.00/2.50 pound Uk
>
>Swivels Us$ 2.50/1.50 pound Uk
>
>Glove Us$ 18.00/12.00 pound Uk
>
>Look forward to your reply.
>
>Free delivery.
>
>I am emailing new offers inorder to promote my goods.By this offer you can
>get goods at low prices and many gifts items free.
>
>Offer sol 01;
>Buy 25 gloves at pound 10 per glove.
>You will get;
>10 hoods free.03 pairs of bells free.05 swivels.
>Free delivery.
>
>Offer sol 02;
>Buy 15 gloves at pound 10.00 per glove.
>You will get 05 hoods free.02 pairs of bells.03 swivels.
>Free delivery.
>
>Please email me with your suggesstions.I am sure you can get great
>advantages from this offer.
>As you know we sell per glove at 15.00pound sterling but in this offer you
>can get per glove at 10.00
>waiting for your reply.
>
>
>regards.
>Kurayshe
>
i was after swivels mainly and bells

[Moses]

u got any pics mate not bad prices for bulk and freebies :D

[Ali]

its the stocks which came back from dubai and qatar and they are trying to dispose it off on any rates.
Ali

[Tim Laycock]

Hmm fantastic :roll: . How are you actualy supposed to get the stuff :?:

[Moses]

at least the dealers should post the pics of some stuff as well it will be nice to see the products me thinks before anyone buys

1.50 a swivel is that normally the uk price or do they actually cost alot more

cheers

[OutFlying]

Don't ever buy a cheap swivel, buy one from a known and trusted source - they are only a £10 OR LESS FOR ONE THAT WILL NEVER LET YOU DOWN. It is false economy to buy cheap swivels - stop and think whats on the other end :wink: and I don't mean a bow perch ring....


OF.

[Ali]

Well you can check the swivels i got now they are all made from Surgical stainless steel and TIG welded
Ali

[Moses]

Don't ever buy a cheap swivel, buy one from a known and trusted source - they are only a £10 OR LESS FOR ONE THAT WILL NEVER LET YOU DOWN. It is false economy to buy cheap swivels - stop and think whats on the other end :wink: and I don't mean a bow perch ring....


OF.

thanks for the advice mate :) i saw what happened to tosca brians hawk he bought a swivel from ebay and u know what happened to that :D

ali my bros

u got any pics pls

cheers

and bros can u join paypal from pakistan too so u get the funds straight away , it will be a good idea if u can join

paypal.com

cheers

[Ali]

we dont have paypal here Moses brother, it only works in india and yes i will send you the pics of the ss i got with me, tomorrow will get the pic done and send it to you on the next day.
Ali

[Moses]

thanks bros

how much do i sell the swivels for when i order the gloves i will order some of them too to see what their like

cheers

[OutFlying]

Well you can check the swivels i got now they are all made from Surgical stainless steel and TIG welded
Ali

Ali, As I said earlier I would only buy from a known and trusted swivel manufacturer. I have no knowledge good or bad of your products and will continue to use the swivels I have previously had faith and success with.

No doubt if your swivels are well made then people will buy them, I don't take chances with the security of my hawks.

Yours OF.

[Moses]

outflying God willing i should get my order within 2 weeks once i transfer the money to ali

if u want i will send u a free swivel and u can check it out

i dont know much about them whats good and what aint

cheers

[Ali]

almost all the falconry goods that you get from your local dealers comes from Pakistan, but paying more is good and i am not asking you to buy it from me mate coz i will also not advise you to take any chances, OF so its Ok mate..... Thankyou for the care Moses bro i will send you an extra swivel OF mate you just tell me the size and i will send one ss swivel along with Moses items and it will be nice of him to post you one just for a look ( If you wont feel offended OF)
Ali
Ali

[OutFlying]

Ali,
I take no offence from yourself or offer any offence - just stating a preference. I usually use Sampo fishing swivels with fitted rings for falconry swivels, cheap, strong and reliable. I fly a female sparrowhawk or a goshawk.

Yours OF.

[Moses]

thanks alot bros give me a price of them too will order a few for the future inshallah :)

cheers

[Ali]

Its a deal mate i will send you 2 swivels perfect for a female goshawk and a sparrow hawk and thankyou for being clear mate i highly appreciate that it will be a gift from me, and i am sure Moses will post them to you.
Regards,
Ali

[Moses]

Ali,
I take no offence from yourself or offer any offence - just stating a preference. I usually use Sampo fishing swivels with fitted rings for falconry swivels, cheap, strong and reliable. I fly a female sparrowhawk or a goshawk.

Yours OF.

outflying this one mate

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000677FKU.01-AZ71P3AYYLDQO._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[Moses]

Its a deal mate i will send you 2 swivels perfect for a female goshawk and a sparrow hawk and thankyou for being clear mate i highly appreciate that it will be a gift from me, and i am sure Moses will post them to you.
Regards,
Ali

will do bros no worries :) inshallah

[Ali]

this is a sampo swivel and its good but i got the D type swivels dont have a pic of them with me but i will get the pics made tomorrow Inshallah first thing in the morning and post it to you Moses.
Ali

[Moses]

thanks bros looking forward to it

:)

[OutFlying]

Its a deal mate i will send you 2 swivels perfect for a female goshawk and a sparrow hawk and thankyou for being clear mate i highly appreciate that it will be a gift from me, and i am sure Moses will post them to you.
Regards,
Ali

Thankyou.

[OutFlying]

Ali,
I take no offence from yourself or offer any offence - just stating a preference. I usually use Sampo fishing swivels with fitted rings for falconry swivels, cheap, strong and reliable. I fly a female sparrowhawk or a goshawk.

Yours OF.

outflying this one mate

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000677FKU.01-AZ71P3AYYLDQO._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Yes Moses that's the one. It doesn't tangle, has plenty of weight to hold the jesses down. Strong, cheap, reliable and works well.

OF.

[Moses]

yes thats a good one :)
3.79 dollars not bad at all :D 2 quid

[Ali]

I dont have my pic of the swivels but i will just send you the pics of the swivels i got with me just a few minutes
Ali

[OutFlying]

yes thats a good one :)
3.79 dollars not bad at all :D 2 quid

Be careful to get the correct size swivel for your hawk, they all look the same but come in different sizes. Ones suitable for a gos are usually about 6 or 7 dollars.

[Ali]

Be careful to get the correct size swivel for your hawk, they all look the same but come in different sizes. Ones suitable for a gos are usually about 6 or 7 dollars.
I got the pic from internet but how do i load it here so i can show you the type of swivels i got with me?
Ali

[Ali]

these are the swivels i got in my stocks,
Ali

[Moses]

yes thats a good one :)
3.79 dollars not bad at all :D 2 quid

Be careful to get the correct size swivel for your hawk, they all look the same but come in different sizes. Ones suitable for a gos are usually about 6 or 7 dollars.

thanks will do mate if i ever order them, they look cool quality as well

mate just noticed ali put the pics up

what do u think of them

cheers

[OutFlying]

Moses,
You cannot tell how a swivel will perform and last from a photograph. They do appear well manufactured. A test is required.

OF.

[Moses]

yes of course i meant looks wise :D

i think i will let my nephew hang from one of them with a leash and pretend he is tarzan that will give me a rough idea if their good :D

[Ali]

well the swivels can hold alot of weight...........thats well tested........... i get them tested coz i also keep birds its not that only i deal in equipment but every year i set out a party for trapping passage birds as well as deal in passage birds too.
Ali

[Ali]

they are all tested coz i also use them myself, you can tie a big sheep dog with the extra large swivel thats for sure. hehehehe
Ali

[Moses]

good enuff for me bros :D

i will try to use it on sheep im a scot u know :D

lol just kidding about the sheep :D

and i wanted to ask u bros, theirs alot of wildlife in pakistan so how do u keep your falcons and hawks safe, r they in a big avairy or do they still tether them on the manja inthe small villages

cheers

[Ali]

lolzzz manja and perches mate as well as a few servants during the season time (BAAZDARS) coz its loads of birds and 1 or 2 people cant manage em but we got a dera where we keep our birds and its like a no entry zone.
Ali

[OutFlying]

well the swivels can hold alot of weight...........thats well tested........... i get them tested coz i also keep birds its not that only i deal in equipment but every year i set out a party for trapping passage birds as well as deal in passage birds too.
Ali

A female gos on a screen perch is the test I have in mind. I've seen plenty of swivels that don't stand up to it for the season.

OF.

[Ali]

heres how we keep our birds Moses mate hope your idea will be cleared out by these pics
Ali

[Moses]

lol mashallah bros your so ****ing cool i luv the shaheens :D my God only if we could import them :D so awesome

lol aye see i was right they still use manja's :D falcons luv em

guys manja is a bed in the villages no foam no nothing just string

in the olden times and still , as in the uk a dog is a mans best friend, a falcon and hawk is the pakistani and arabs best friend and the lil birdies used to sleep next to their owners :D so tame

im happy they still use manja's too without strings this time

this is how the west got the idea to make the carrying box for flying birds 4 tied on one box and it comes apart on the top

i dont know what we call it here , 4 legged table thing comes out of a box and peregrines r tied to it

thanks for the pics bros im gonna save them now, u made my day :D

any goshawks pls if u have any pics :D i wanna see my red eyed beauties :D

edited to add bros when i try to save the pic and check the link the pic says saker

they have a shaheens front belly and pattern

r they shaheens or sakers

cheers just the zigzag patter make it look like shaheens

[Ali]

All of them are passage sakers mate
Ali

[Moses]

man their expensive :D andu have so many of them

first time i seen a passage saker bros they got a similiar patter in the middle as the shaheen specially the rednaped one without the colour of course

[Moses]

sorry bros for talking sake how much do u sell your sakers to the arabs and locals


for experience

cheers

[Ali]

its ok moses i actually deal in them and i sell them locally as well as to arabs
Ali

[Moses]

r they really expensive bros

and which do u prefer for best hunting these sakers coz they do both ground and air hunts or the shaheen

man im a fan now bros, thats alot of birds u have, awesome stuff :)

[Ali]

Moses brother each year during the season its like that at my place its like a market, and i have flown alot of birds all passage coz we dont have captive bred birds here in Pakistan i am sending you a pic of my dad and a friend of his who came to Pakistan coz he was intrested in hunting with Goshawks, sakers are good hunters and like to play before they take down their querry, peregrines are dashing and fast they dont waste time, shaheens are a bit smalled than the peregrines but a black shaheen is hard to tell if its a peregrine or a shaheen.
Ali

[Moses]

true bros a saker is good for those inbetween falcons and hawks for taking both flight and ground game

lol shaheens still have a similiar character as the scottish peregrine, their famous for straight on dashing :D and speed


inshallah one day i need to come and see your market place and see what its like to hunt in pakistan, will be something with the land all over

your falcons ever killed the murgabi bird bros :D they look big


and lol come on bros its just for experience whats the going market for one of your sakers to give me a rough idea if i go for hols and buy one during my few months stay

cheers

[Ali]

Heres the pics of goshawks mate

[Ali]

The man with the beard is my late father, and when you plan to visit here mate i swear to god you will get a saker free of cost, hope you like the pics i just loaded of goshawks
Ali

[Moses]

may Allah bless your father bros may he rest in jannah inshallah

lol very old pics bros u the young lad who seems to luv alot of food and kebabs :D with that tubby belly haha

mashallah bros i will treasure these pics, brings back memories of the fields in pakistan, so nice to see the pics :)

bros lol u too generous inshallah i will buy it aff u :D no freebies pls when it comes to animals, people respect and look after it more if its been paid for :D

thanks alot bros

im just gonna save them pics and print them tomorrow

cheers :)

[Ali]

sure mate though i will like you to make a visit and i will show you around as well as take you to hunt bustards in the desert areas.
Ali

[Moses]

woohoooo yahoo and yippee bros i luv it :D

i aint been for 9 yrs but i sure want to go now :D haha

thanks bros your so cool :) mashallah

[Wightwings]

lovely