05 Gyr/saker tiercel

[Afshimo]

In preperation for the new bird coming in about 6weeks and under...

I've decided to get the gyr/saker, mainly because I done have another bird :cry: and the lawn is a bit bare, and I'm ready for one to train from an eyass and see what I have learnt, so you can read all my mistakes and comment on them lol, as i've no doubt that you wont!

Just sorting out a hood now, decided to try and make my own anglo indian and dutch, I'll probebly end up buyin a hood off Griff, a nice dutch hood, so watch out! :evil:

I have all the blocks, just finishing the mews off now, shelf perch style personal boxes, max of 3 birds in there at one time, but It'll just be the gyr/saker for awhile. Going to buy some wings for lures, new bell's, batteries for the telemetry and a new whistle (cant whistle without one! :oops: )

Thats the latest, just waiting for Mark to e-mail me back saying that he's got all the documents sorted, then after the CLA and a couple weeks later (end of the summer hols) the beast will be arriving.

Getting names together: Nemisis, Tyrant, Khan, Sniper, Couger, Calibur and Gyro. lol.

See you all tomozo, will be on the school computers as norm - cant belive they let me on lol, thought it would have been blocked lol! Mind you, better than dying of boredom!

[Tim Laycock]

decided to try and make my own anglo indian and dutch
:supz:

[Afshimo]

lol BB,

did the anglo last night, but too small in neak i think, so I'm doing another one later on prahaps. Will get a pic for you too look at, not as good as ure hoods lol - any tips? Buying a set of 3 hood block for gyr/saker sized, the mesurements I got are 5.8 - 6.0cm, afra was a 5.4cm. The hood I did was 5.9, so I'll do one bigger and one smaller. The dutch hood is gona be hard, I'm going to need some more leather, get sum calf cus all i got is black kangaroo lol.

[Tim Laycock]

Nice one Hannah :D My work is done! :mrgreen:

[Moritz]

Hi Hannah,
I think you won't need a hood. Normally they come with the bird.

Moritz

[Afshimo]

Hiya,

You joking Moritz! lol, Hopefully it will be a bahrain hood, so I'll keep that for best I guess. Still waiting for conformation from Mark Rob, the a10 and the other documents, but wont be picking him up untill during the summer hols so i have plenty of spare time to do extra manning and hopefully have him up and flying free in time for school.

BB, your hood diary helped me out quite abit, shame the pattern was dodgy etc, but I'm learning! You'll have to try doing dutch and arab hood etc, then show us how you get on the same way with the anglo-indian.

thx,

Hannah

[Tim Laycock]

BB, your hood diary helped me out quite abit, shame the pattern was dodgy etc
What do you mean the pattern was dodgy? :x

You'll have to try doing dutch and arab hood etc,
Im on the case! :lol:

[Afshimo]

lol, the hood was too short at the back, I'll show u in the pic. Good luck with the hood making!

[Tim Laycock]

lol, the hood was too short at the back

Just chop it about a bit Hannah, Its not an exact science. make a few of dirrerent shapes and sizes and then work with the best fitting one until its mint.
Making hoods like this is not a waste as it will serve to refine your technique.

[Liam Hay]

Its not an exact science.

anything falconry related never is LOL

[Tim Laycock]

As with anything in life!(With the exception of exact science of course) Lmao

[Afshimo]

Gyr/saker is arriving Tue 16th of August - WWWWHHHHHHHHOOOOOOO!!

[PeregrinesUK]

are you getting one of his hacked white birds?

[Afshimo]

no dont think so, why? any reason lol

[Darren]

i have been talking to 1 of Mark Robbs mates on www.moochershunting.com , the guy grew up with Mark & still hunts with him when he is in this country.
Sounds like you are doing well with all the prep

[Afshimo]

a gut at the CLA had one of Marks birds, nice white male, not huge, but big feet and wonderfull colour and blue cere, very nice, It wont be a white bird, I doubt that lol, but will be a cream one lol.

[PeregrinesUK]

no dont think so, why? any reason lol
always wanted one of his really white tiercels really nice looking birds like white gyrs judging by his website i bet you get a cracker! :D

[Tim Laycock]

Post a link m8. I wouldnt mind a look :D

[PeregrinesUK]

http://www.gyrfalcons.co.uk/gyrsaker.htm

[Afshimo]

lol, his white tiercels are fantastic, but females are even better (obviously lol :) ) I'm not bothered what mines like just as long as he's mine and he's keen on hunting lol. He said It's be a cream/white, but if the arabs didnt need so many birds, he'd think about a white one for me, he's a good guy really lol. I dont think they are huge huge birds, large yeah, fantastic colour though, that sets them apart from most birds, and the trade mark feet. If you want large gyr/sakers, get hold of Nick Fox, Terry had a male of him flying at 2lb 5, mine should be around 1lb 15 - 2lb 1 or so, whatever, I'll be happy!

[PeregrinesUK]

2lb 1 thats big for a 50/50 gyr saker normally they fly around the 1lb 10- 12 mark.... 2lb 5 i would of said was a female but i havent seen him so i dont know- i had a 3/4 gyr 1/4alti saker and it only flew at 2lb ?

[Afshimo]

lol, these are decent birds, na, only joking, hav a look...

Approximate weights for Gyr / Sakers range from 750g-1150g for males and 1000-1650g for females.

so thats 1lb 14? to 2lb 5? mite need to check on a calculator, but thats pretty big lol.

Check out the pics that h4wka took at the CLA, the big white falcon at the end was the gyr/saker, and he's a beauty!

[Shaun Byrne]

Here you go Hannah, this is one of Marks Birds, Gyr Saker Male off a very white Gyr.

[Shaun Byrne]

Another

[Afshimo]

WOW he is beautifull, if my bird looked half like him....who's is he?

thx for that v much h4wka!!!!!

[Tim Laycock]

Pretty birds. Not my cup of tea but cool non the less 8)

[Goldie]

never had a problem with pretty birds myself, but must confess to likeing them a bit dirty :wink: :lol:

[Tim Laycock]

No m8. What you need is Filthy and Nasty. Pretty is an added bonus, Though not a necessity! :wink:

[Shaun Byrne]

WOW he is beautifull, if my bird looked half like him....who's is he?

thx for that v much h4wka!!!!!

He belongs to a mate of mine. He has 2 of Marks and 2 of Nick Fox's. I'm At the centre today so I'll get some pics for you.

[Afshimo]

cool! looking forward to it lol

[Afshimo]

" days to go, just sorting out final details, we set of on tue sometimes to pick my baby up lol. His name is likely to be Shiro or Jato. Its just cleaning the mews and triple checking all my equipment is ok and sorted. I was told that my bird is also hacked, new experiance for me!

WHOO!

[Afshimo]

Last day, tomorrow we pick up shiro, so on the wed look out for pics and the start of a diary lol. sooo excited, finally get my bird, waited for 7 months and finally its paying of....YAY!

Got him his own glove lol, a Martin Jones single, thats his glove, and only his!

[Adam Barrett]

Good luck hannah-cant wait to see them pics. :D

[Moritz]

Good luck Hannah, send us some pictures! I would like to know how he looks like! :D

Take care

Moritz

[Afshimo]

Lol Moritz!

Yep, the mighty one has arrived! He looks just like a mini Jerkin, but with brown markings instead! He is white, I'm very suprised about that lol, I wasn't expecting such a light bird! His name is Shiro, which is japanese for white so again like afra is fits the bill!

For a bird that has been hacked and jesses the day before I picked him up, he is amazingly calm and relaxed - he ate a couple legs yesterday, as I decided to spend some time with him. He will his if you pick him up but is improving each time you play with him. He's fine with dogs and cats, the cat has learned that birds of prey are dangerouse and keeps her distance. Traveling home was no problem, you could forget about him unless he roused or scratched himself. He did jump out of the box hooded, but I think I suprised him abit! He sits up strait on your fist and had a tour only 10mins ago of the garden, roused abit and only bated twice regaining the fist by himself. He has lovely blue feet and cere, his feet I'd think were small in span, but thickset, just like the rest of him He's about 18" tall at a rough mesurment and comes in at a hefty 2lb 3 so I was told. I did get him on the scaled, but he wasnt sitting properly and I only got a 2lb 1 1/2.
I'm hoping he will have a half quail or full chick on the fist tonight. All chicks are de-yolked to keep his blue feet true! He's fantastic, very smart and steady, takes the world in and thinks things through after a few seconds panic.
He's a brillian bird so thanks very very very much to Mark Rob and family and staff - because he is a top bird and has abit more than I expected. My family love him and are always popping out to watch him and he doesnt mind so much! He's worth his weight in gold!

As for pictures, I'm afraid I have lost the digi camera! So...pics might be a while in coming, but I'll see what I can do, maybe get him web cam lol.

He he!

Hannah

[Afshimo]

Found the camera! Pics will be up ASAP!

[Afshimo]

His wightness!

[Afshimo]

Hello!

Never thought I'd say this today, his first day with me but..he's eating off the fist!

We had a barbeque in today, so between preparing the garden, mowing the lawn, polishing and cooking, I've been picking him up, moving him, playing with him and playing loud music and waving strange objects close by. He's seen the cat and dog, watched me dance mowing the lawn (good fun!) and lying down next to him. He's amazing. No other word for it. Oh, maybe relaxed and smart would come into it aswell.

We had around 15 ppl walking around the garden and going up to him at a distance. He bated a few times but was extreamly relaxes and blase about everything. During the BBQ I picked him up and showed him round to everybody. He didnt bate! I even let 3 of the guest's attempt to hold him, he stepped down and stepped back up! He let them stroke his chest and feel his keel (lots of muscle)

Near the end, bout 9:10, I got a piece of beef out and he ate bout 1/2 a crop full. He weighed in today at 2lb 1/2, so he's lost 1oz as it was quite cold last night. We'll start jumping tomorrow if he can. Cant belive how quick he's coming on, first day and already he's doing stuff that I'd expect a bird flying free to be doing! I'm gobsmacked, but the guest's loved him, didnt make too much noise when I was around, but were lauighing loud and he wasnt bothered by that! He's had a bath today, it was quite warm in the sun, he was panting a little, even put an umbrella up for him and he appreciated that. He's watching all the little birds that fly over, near the evening, bats were also in his sights.

He's a fantastic bird! SHIRO!

[Tim Laycock]

Hannah,
Is he a hacked p/r or imprint?

[Afshimo]

a hacked p/r, just a great temperment and attitude!

[Tim Laycock]

Thanks,
Are you sure he is not a hacked imprint?

[Afshimo]

Hi,

not totally sure, but i was told he is a p/r so i do belive them. I think he's just a very relaxed bird! Whatever, aslong as he stays silent I'm not bothered.

[Tim Laycock]

I wish mine was (Silent) :lol:

[Moritz]

He is p/r it is just the magic Mark and Sara do when hacking etc. I trapped him myself (he is even on the picture of the sale post) and he was not happy to be taken at all.

Moritz

[Afshimo]

Lol, they did a great job - he is fantastic!

Can you show me which one is him? Circle him lol. He's beautifull, I'll see what my head Falconer thinks when I turn with with Shiro tomorrow!

Thx!

Hannah

[Afshimo]

Hello!

Shiro was great at the centre, letting small kids come upto him and tickle his chest, walk by very close and scream an shout! He had a perch behind the cabin, so he could relax, listen to a waterfeature and have a bath. I had my lunch sat a foot away whilst he dozed and kept admiring on-lookers away lol.
The Head Falconer liked him I think, doesnt belived he's been hacked and think's he's an imprint...hmm. Mind you, Shiro wasnt impressed by HF, bated and lied down on the floor shaking! Had to pick him up and spend some time calming him down.
We had walks down on the field, watched pigeons and doves, the odd kes and crows etc. Walked past aviaries and had to calm him down when the pressure washer turned on! He did have bout 1oz of beef again. Down to 1lb 15 in weight. Approximatly a 1oz drop.

Still as beautifull as ever!

[Afshimo]

todays update...

1lb 15 1/2. Must have been hotter in the night that useral. Thats a 1/2oz gain.

He was, very spuprising, quite hungry, and has had bout 1/4oz of beef, before the dog ran in and ate it. No grub for him tonight lol. Still not jumping and keen enough, needs another 1oz or 1 1/2oz drop. Will see if he will jump for 1/2 chick today. Doubt it but give him the chance. Woke up very late today n'all, so chicks hav just finished defrosting. Didnt go down the centre today, just sending time round the house and with Shiro. Really calming down, will step back onto my glove with out bating.

aww!

[OhMyGod]

This is great news Hannah,

But you are telling me that you have a wild hacked gyr/saker that has been jessed up and blocked for only 3 days and small kids can stroke his chest and he is cool with that?

What sort of weight are you expecting him to be flying free at first?

What are your goals, I mean what would you have liked him to of achieved by the end of the season when you put him in a pen to moult?

[Afshimo]

He is wild hacked, ask Mark himself or Moritz. Unbeliveably yes, he is ok with that, liked the extra attention too.

MON: Out of the aviary, jesses, hooded and blocked.
TUE: 3 hour drive back home.
WED: Ate off fist at BBQ
THU: Ate off fist at centre
FRI: Relaxing at home, just spedning time with him.

Hmm, for weight, prob 1lb 12 or so. My first prediction was way out lol.

My goal is to hunt. Purely and simply. But I want him to be relaxed and a family bird when he's in the garden or at the centre. Mainly so he's happy to be round a few people. Stroking wasnt in there and It'll just be me who strokes him from now on and just to feel his keel!

[OhMyGod]

what would you like him to hunt?

Do you know when he was taken from hack and put in a pen? and what his weights were then and what his weight was on mon tues etc?

[Afshimo]

I dont know when exactly he was taken out of hack and put into hack aviary, but i know he is at hack for a month.

On Mon, he was wighed at 2lb 3, I think thats his fat weight? Tue was 2lb 1
, wed was 2lb and thu was 1lb 15.

As for hunting, prob partriges or corvids, depends on his flight style.

[Moritz]

Hi Hannah
This is Sara writing, I been following your training with interesst. Sounds like you are doing pretty well indeed! I am sorry to hear some people dont seem to be pleased for you and your nice tempramented falcon but instead trying to find excuses for why he is so nice and calm (!) I can tell you that that falcon is NOT imprinted and anyone who have been around imprinted falcons know that they......scream!!!
Expecially when they are getting cut down in weight.
However....as he IS hacked he have seen me walking up to the hack box and putting food on there twice a day for at least 3 weeks (including the time before releasing). This make our falcons completly diffrent from a falcon reared in a enclosed chamber by its parents. After hack they get put into a large flying avary made only by net where they see people in the distance all day long. So they are not imprinted and NOT noisy, as you can probebly agree on, but they are quite easely tamed and that, I think, is a positive thing as you dont have to put to much pressure and stress on the falcon. Anyway, nice to hear you are doing so well and I am so pleased you like him. If you have any problems at all, please dont hesitate in contacting us!

[Shaun Byrne]

In other words OMG, you dont know **** all about Hannahs bird so stop giving her a hard time :D


Sara for Prime Minister :D :D

[Moritz]

That is Moritz again:
Well we got a new expert on here! So watch out!

Moritz

[OhMyGod]

wtf

not giving anyone a hard time hear hawka

is you giving me hard time lol

[Afshimo]

Hiya ,

Just noticed the post (sry, been here and there) So thanks Sara! Also, if you still have a couple male gyr/sakers left...my news are almost finished - room for one more! lol - mum would go spare!
I will tell Mal next saturday when I go down. Love the pictures of the birds at hack - you must have fun up there lol.

Lately, Shiro has been stepping uotp to the fist and flying to the lure (bout 3m) so we're getting there slowly, its just me getting abit confused so thanks to the people who have bee helping me! We're coming on a lot faster.

thx!

Hannah

[OhMyGod]

cool, glad to hear it Hannah

[Moritz]

Good to hear that. Just give us a ring if you need more help.

Take care

Moritz

[Afshimo]

Hi,

Shiro's clicked! He jumped from 2ft then to 2m, i went haf accross my garden, he came (10m) when another m then though, stuff it and he came the full 20m to ma fist! well chuffed lol.

tomorrow we'll see if he'll come the same distance to the lure then tue its to the flying field if all goes well. He's so beautifull when he's flyin, but I have to swap to a double layer cus he's got a decent grip (put a red to shame :twisted: lol) I am tryin to get pics up but they will b a long time in coming. sry!

ATB!

Hannah

[Afshimo]

Hello!

WHOOO!

He's comin bout 25/30m to fist and lure, and picks up nicely! So, it's gona be time to hit the fields and have him coming full creance distance then go FREEE! Just need some spare batteries for telem (Dad's getting them tomorrow) so should (possibly) have him going free on the sat if poss! Coming in at 1lb 12 and keen as mustard!