Longest without food

[DannyRot]

wot is the longest you ve had a eyass of the year go without food while trying to get him eat from the glove??

[Steve.T]

after 3 days if still not fed from the fist i leave a titbit in the weathering for it to eat in its own time

[DannyRot]

well its took me 5 solid days to get my mhh to eat off my glove:D i tell ya i was thinking of doin the same but glad i neva did as you neva know how long it would of set me back:mad: it has drove me round the bend but well worth the wait :lol::lol:

[Steve.T]

when i say titbit, i mean titbit, usually a chick head

[Rudd2372]

you should only leve it afew days, but it will depend on how full up it is when you start and how stedy it is.

ATB brian.

[DannyRot]

i know wot your sayin baitman i was gonna do the same tonight if not eaten off the fist just asking as it has drove me to places you would nt of even thought of while waiting for him to do it:lol: he is a proper stubborn little ****** but i reckon things should progress a little faster now we are over our first hurdle atleast i think they should:roll: gonna try to get him eating instantly of the fist tommorrow;)

[DannyRot]

you should only leve it afew days, but it will depend on how full up it is when you start and how stedy it is.

ATB brian.
mate i know my birds in side out and if i ever thought it was to low a condition id have left him his grub in his quarters but then the last 5 days would of been a waste of time which is why i neva done so as he still looked sharp and active and a bird will eat sooner or later through shear hunger as one would neva commit suicide through bein stubborn its just a waiting game you have to play which is enough to send anyone mad but i have to say it was time very well spent:roll::roll:

[Rudd2372]

danny will it eat in front of you when you right next to it.

[DannyRot]

danny will it eat in front of you when you right next to it.
no well would nt untill yesterday

[Rudd2372]

when you say it wont eat of the fist, is it when you pick it up?

[elcalanga]

Stick it out mate, it will eat eventually.

[Tooker]

My RT went 5 days. Rub his feet with the food to get his attention.

[Kiki]

well its took me 5 solid days to get my mhh to eat off my glove:D i tell ya i was thinking of doin the same but glad i neva did as you neva know how long it would of set me back:mad: it has drove me round the bend but well worth the wait :lol::lol:

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[OtisTiercel]

I think the longest for me has got to be about 2 days with a female kestrel. My Buzzard took about a week to eat but that wasnt on the fist.

[JEF12Y]

A trick i have tried a few times and it has never let me down yet, is if you are worried about your bird getting to low put her on her perch leave a little food beside her, make sure you can watch her without her seeing you, as soon as she has eaten what you left return and pick her up with a garnished glove, and they seem to feed straight away.

[Shaun Bannister]

if your taking up an eyass for training and it has come from a decent background then there should be no reason why it wont be in good health,to that end ensure you have the right environement for a nervous bird to feed in ie: indoors ,quiet ,no distractions and slightly darkened environement preferably with the abilty to get some light upon prepared food ,a stripped chick with no yolk and placed in such a manner that the easily accessible insides are available,get your self nicely sited and comfortable ,unhood the bird let it adjust to its surraoundings get any bates out of the way then attract its attention to the food either by moving the fingers touching the feet etc everything done in slow time
the main problems with trying to get fresh birds to feed are a lack of preparation of the environment prior to trying
birds are not stupid they will not starve themselves to death and WILL eat in due course ,placing food alongside their bow or in their mews simply prolongs the process and takes you back to square one ,in answer to your question for a hh 24 hrs a wild buzzard once took 11 days

[Wayne225TT]

after 3 days if still not fed from the fist i leave a titbit in the weathering for it to eat in its own time

same as what i did with both mine

[DannyRot]

same as what i did with both mine
i have manned a few birds down and neva had to indure that sort of frustration before:rolleyes: i have had them go without food for 2 to 3 days but neva 5

[Leo 1]

my fhh went 7days strat wih out feeding wen i first got her but will eat of the glove at top wehgit now

[Jim Wale]

3 days with a 21 year old gos whos as far as i know had not been touched before

[Sean D]

Hey why coax a bird when you can starve it into submission

[Gem1304]

I had a mhh that didnt eat for 6 days. On that sixth day i was going to give him a little something on his bow if he didnt eat mostly cos i worried about him getting dehydrated. But what I tried was holding him on the fist with the chick and held my arm above me so when he bent down for the food he could still keep an eye on me. When i did that he started eating nearly straight away, and as he ate I slowly brought him down to normal level, and he ate the second chick sat next to me quite happily.

As a note, he was flying free after 2 weeks, and was entered at 3 weeks, so not eating for the first week didn't really affect the rest of the training.

Gem x

[Shaun Bannister]

Hey why coax a bird when you can starve it into submission

you can always sit down and whisper to it

[Sean D]

you can always sit down and whisper to it

**** me my sides are splitting

[DannyRot]

well he is coming on nicely now and eating off the fist instantly so gonna get him jumpin to the fist tommorrow surprised at how well he is coming on after bein so nervous yesterday he was like a diffrent bird today and hope it carries on the same:rolleyes: danny

[David Rampling]

after 3 days if still not fed from the fist i leave a titbit in the weathering for it to eat in its own time

That would be a mistake to be honest, and just slows things down, dont mean to appear to be rude. There was a time when i would have done the same. Not any more.

[UglyBear]

my gos was 12 days

[DannyRot]

i understand were people are comin from wen they give food wen they think there bird has gone to long but it only gets worse wen done has the bird will only indure the same routine again which to me is alot of time and effort wasted so you really need to know the signs of being dehydrated and to low in condition without these traits you could mann the bird for long periods and neva get anywere plus ruining the bird!!

[Shaun Bannister]

i understand were people are comin from wen they give food wen they think there bird has gone to long but it only gets worse wen done has the bird will only indure the same routine again which to me is alot of time and effort wasted so you really need to know the signs of being dehydrated and to low in condition without these traits you could mann the bird for long periods and neva get anywere plus ruining the bird!!

an eyass will not go low it will eat before it reaches that stage provided it is healthy when taken up ,feeding anywhere other than on the fist in the early days of manning is a pointless emotionally based habit that only prolongs the process, if you prepare the environemnt correctly and follow age old rules there is no reason why any eyass could not be eating in 48 hrs ,ive never gone more than a 24 period and im just playing at it

[Pertie]

Drag a strip of bloodied meat over the birds toes, this will usually irritate the bird into snatching at the meat and after tasting the blood will often start eating. It also helps to have the bird at high level (as a previous poster has said).

[DannyRot]

an eyass will not go low it will eat before it reaches that stage provided it is healthy when taken up ,feeding anywhere other than on the fist in the early days of manning is a pointless emotionally based habit that only prolongs the process, if you prepare the environemnt correctly and follow age old rules there is no reason why any eyass could not be eating in 48 hrs ,ive never gone more than a 24 period and im just playing at it
like i said i ve neva had to wait that long before and manned a fair few hh in about 8 years and had sum eating off the fist in a few days so i cant give any reason to why it took so long other than i feed him to much as i picked him up at ten weeks and made sure he got a belly full for 3 weeks previous to me picking him up ;) like has been said be4 your eyass should be at top weight when being picked up and has no reason to take food from you via the glove unless it was neva full when you did so so i neva try and feed off the glove straight away anyway as its a waste of time i use martin hollinsheads technic and neva gone wrong even if id have picked him up at 16 weeks id have given him a few weeks to get used to me and my enviroment so that would nt be the reason why :-| and havin a bird eat off your fist after only a day is sum going being at top weight !!

[Rudd2372]

Hi danny, its good to hear you've got it eating off the fist.
ATB Brian. :D

[Millet]

My male Gos took 5 day's before he would eat from the fist..his weight from the breeding enclosure was 2lb 1/2oz and when he decided to give in he was 1lb 10oz..
Millet

[Mark Collins]

Every bird is differant , a little bit of experience is needed, its a must to have some knowledge on the condition of the bird being trained, generally if a bird comes out of an aviary it is carrying a bit of weight above what it will respond and eventually fly and hunt at, there are always exceptions, a bird full of worms could be one, some young birds come out skinny, wild birds will take longer to settle and feed on the fist, steady birds will eat almost straight away , the longest i had was a tiercel parent raised prairie, he went 5 days, but he was as fat as butter, i didnt take him up until about september , once he started feeding there wasnt any looking back, i was on the point of leaving food for him , some birds just wont feed until they are hungry enough,mark.