Importing a hawk from asia

[Moses]

just for experience i was speaking to ali

about the ruling and if it can be done to import a goshawk chick from pakistan

and he said its impossible coz u need a CITES permit

is it that hard to bring in a hawk from an asian country

and why please

cheers

[Sprout]

Don't know about impossible, check with DEFRA. Then again, probably is impossible knowing them!

[Dude]

I think its not impossible, coz a friend of mine got albidus and buteoides goses from russia(it was in the past when it was CCCP, so I think now its a bit easier...but donno 4 sure how easy it is now....)

[Gaz]

..I bet what ever it costs it will end in £o.99p :!: ..and you wont get yer penny change.. :mrgreen:

[Tim Laycock]

Good thread Moses! :D
I hope it runs

[Moses]

lol thanks :D

a goshawk chick will probably be 40 to 60 quid depending on who u can get it from :D in some cases much less if u deal with a village falconer

if its a guy selling it abroad he will charge alot but at least u will get it in time

for 40 to 50 quid u can get a baby water buffalco calf :D and thats no bull mate

[Ali]

Hi Everyone,
Well Moses i swear to God you come here to Pakistan and i will get you a chick for free of cost i wont charge you a penny mate, Coz i can get it without any problems here, but as i told you in the pm its impossible to send it to UK or to any other Western Country, and if anyone says he can its a white lie, coz i have tried it till the Secretary rank and the Minister of wildlife but its not possible coz its not a captive bred bird that you can tell when and where about the raptors here that are trapped are all passage birds and if you read the CITES documentations its strictly written in it that you cant export wild trapped passage birds coz most of the worlds wild life quoata is alotted to the arabs who pay barrels of dollars to CITES and WWF for their sport and we cant get it coz its already over the limits, though if anyone tells you from Asia he can get a CITES permit for you do tell me:P
Regards,
Ali

[Moses]

thanks alot bros thats so sad

arabs take everything of ours :D

thats sad news totally, thanks alot for your offer bros :) u know when we went to the north west frontier we saw the pushtun community selling trained falcons i think it was murdan or something or sawat, saiful maluk one of them anyway

so cheap bros and so tame, i didnt know at the time it was this hard bringing them over and also didnt know much about falconry at all, good to see them

goshawk is my fave bird bros, i luv them to bits along with a peregrine

maybe in the near future i hope the laws change

thanks alot bros

pls if u can post some pics of your birds if u can :)

cheers

[Ali]

coz a friend of mine got albidus and buteoides goses from russia(it was in the past when it was CCCP, so I think now its a bit easier...but donno 4 sure how easy it is now....)
I have smuggled alot of birds from Russian Federation it was alot easier in the communist days but its far too difficult nowadays,though captive breds are like being sold like poultary chickens worldwide, the main thing is that passage birds are prohibited by law, when you go to obtain a CITES here in Pakistan they ask you where you got the bird from? Do you have a dealers permit? and when you provide all the bloody documents in the end they kick your ass and say sorry its not available only heads of states, dignitories and ambassadors can obtain CITES for passage birds no one else is authorized. Coz i deal in wild passage sakers and peregrines so i know all the in depth details of this matter here.
Ali

[Ali]

Yes sure moses i will send you pics of my birds and the birds i have sold in the past.
Ali

[Moses]

coz a friend of mine got albidus and buteoides goses from russia(it was in the past when it was CCCP, so I think now its a bit easier...but donno 4 sure how easy it is now....)
I have smuggled alot of birds from Russian Federation it was alot easier in the communist days but its far too difficult nowadays,though captive breds are like being sold like poultary chickens worldwide, the main thing is that passage birds are prohibited by law, when you go to obtain a CITES here in Pakistan they ask you where you got the bird from? Do you have a dealers permit? and when you provide all the bloody documents in the end they kick your ass and say sorry its not available only heads of states, dignitories and ambassadors can obtain CITES for passage birds no one else is authorized. Coz i deal in wild passage sakers and peregrines so i know all the in depth details of this matter here.
Ali

hmm still corrupt as always, maybe they need to be punished b@stards one law for them and a different law for others

pls bros that will be awesome

and thanks for your help yer an affy helpful person and a kind brother :)

cheers