Tame Hacking?

[Bateleur J]

Never heard of using this techniques can someone explain whats the difference between this and wild hacking and what keeps a falcon within a area and the pro's and con's of tame hacking atb Jakk

[WhiteTail]

Never heard of using this techniques can someone explain whats the difference between this and wild hacking and what keeps a falcon within a area and the pro's and con's of tame hacking atb Jakk

Dosent Jemima hack?

[Pearl]

mark collins had a good thread on here with his peregrine mate :supz:

[Malar]

What a huge can of worms to be opening....!?:D
In essence...

tame hack = Imprinted bop allowed (controlled :oops:) time at liberty to develop skills for its future life in falconry. This can create a more confident and well rounded individual and speed up the adolescent stage that imprints are famous for.

Wild hack= Parent reared bop habituated to an area (usually huge box on stilts, or aviary) before it is at free flying stage. The young eyass is allowed freedom of this box just prior to free flying and should!? return for shelter and food when needed. The young bird will take a few weeks (longer for females) to hone its skills and possibly take wild quarry.
Once the eyass is developing it is skillfully trapped by the hacker.

Both have attached risks esp wild hack and they have fans and sceptics. If I'm brave enough there will be a peregrine at tame hack over the suffolk coast soon :supz:

[Bateleur J]

Cheers gonna have a look for Mark Collins thread and thank you for the other information atb Jakk

[Bateleur J]

Dosent Jemima hack?

I couldn't say to be honest atb Jakk

[FalconGriff]

I did it with my imprints for quite a few years I would give them ttheir morning feed at first light and put them out with telemetry till I took them in about an hour before dark to a lure and give them a full crop and put them on a block for the night. They were always waiting! During the day I could often find them up to 15 miles from the Centre. I have done it with all sorts from female Gyrs down to male Barbaries. It was fun to watch them fly but I stopped because they didn't seem to hunt any better than un hacked birds and whilst I never lost any there was always a risk factor. Falconers faces used to be a picture and that kept telling me where they has last seen it and couldn't understand why I wasn't worried

[Steve.T]

i wouldnt be able to sleep.....:lol:

[Bateleur J]

I did it with my imprints for quite a few years I would give them ttheir morning feed at first light and put them out with telemetry till I took them in about an hour before dark to a lure and give them a full crop and put them on a block for the night. They were always waiting! During the day I could often find them up to 15 miles from the Centre. I have done it with all sorts from female Gyrs down to male Barbaries. It was fun to watch them fly but I stopped because they didn't seem to hunt any better than un hacked birds and whilst I never lost any there was always a risk factor. Falconers faces used to be a picture and that kept telling me where they has last seen it and couldn't understand why I wasn't worried


cheers Griff that was a good read. I like the idea of it in its basic premise but I think there are too many dangers that would stop me if I was in the position to do it. would love to see it though

[Sokoly]

Last year I tame hacked a lanner falcon. Basicly, everyday I took it on a same hill and let it look and explore the surroundings, swifts fly by, poking the grass weeds etc. When it becomes fully fledged she start making her first flights arround the jeep. And after a while she would come back to sit on the top of the jeep.Every day she becomes more and more confident and the circles she fly become longer and longer. She would always come back to the famous security of the hood of my car. After a careless childish flights has tought her to use the wings and tail you can start with the lure work. Teaching her how to use the wind and position her self in a wright manner. To me it was a very nice experiance watching the bird mature and become a serious partridge falcon. The hill side will also help you reach the thermals so you will not have to work kites or baloons.

Sokoly

[Dave G]

do many get lost doing it this way ?? sounds great to get a falcon fit and its confidence up using the wind and stuff ;)

[FalconGriff]

I never lost one but I always worried when I heard guns going off. I have lost my nerve when a telemetry signal got weak and gone looking to on one occasion 12 miles from the Centre to see a female Saker flying high She was home before I could turn the car round and drive home. One unseen benefit was that if I did this with falcons I hunted in our area they always knew their way home. I stopped because we had two shoots that were very trigger happy open very near the Centre (one was run by Police men but that another story!)

[Malar]

I never lost one but I always worried when I heard guns going off. I have lost my nerve when a telemetry signal got weak and gone looking to on one occasion 12 miles from the Centre to see a female Saker flying high She was home before I could turn the car round and drive home. One unseen benefit was that if I did this with falcons I hunted in our area they always knew their way home. I stopped because we had two shoots that were very trigger happy open very near the Centre (one was run by Police men but that another story!)


Griff, did you creche rear and tame hack? Or only one bird per year?

Cheers