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Matt
18-07-2005, 12:17 AM
hi i have just got a fresh musket . i made a hood today but it was clumsey and a poor fit. im in the proses of making another un till i can get over to griffs for a fitting and a "made to measure" has any body got or had experiance of hooding a musket ? im looking for solid advice of a hands on nature , not speculation .
the sort of thing im looking for is type of hood anglo (tryed today and in the proses of making)
what leather ie lizard . ostrich.ect ect
and finaly pictures of fitted hoods as im sure you will agree spars have unique head shapes and gapes.
all the best and thanx in advance
matt and co

Matt
18-07-2005, 01:59 AM
ok got a fit .but the leather is stll all wrong(kangaroo)
he mesures just under 3cm behind the eye . small eh?
i used the "hood creator program that is atatched to the sc falconry link i posted last year on this section you should try it it not a bad gadgit.
all the best matt

Tim Laycock
18-07-2005, 08:59 AM
Hooding a musket.
If you wanna make a hood for a musket you need snakeskin.
you realy need the hood to weigh in at under 2g

Mine weigh in at 2.2g for female spar (Leather) and 0.75g (Afghan)snakeskin)

Matt
18-07-2005, 11:03 AM
cool do you still have it or any pics?
all the best matt

Saker-Clive
18-07-2005, 11:30 AM
hi Matt,
I started to make this for Loco (bless him) but was too small; if you want to try it and adjust it I'll send it up if you pm me your addy...........
It's kangarro but stiff!!

Tim Laycock
18-07-2005, 11:43 AM
My spar hoods :arrow:

Tim Laycock
18-07-2005, 11:47 AM
I realise the red snakeskin hood looks pants but it weighs nothing and when fitted it will be very comfortable :supz:

Saker-Clive
18-07-2005, 04:21 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=90871&item=7169855 690&rd=1green lizaed leather, no bids yet, starting price 0.99p

Tim Laycock
18-07-2005, 06:37 PM
Bought some last time round!
Its lizard effect not lizard skin.
Totaly unsuitable.
The best "leather" for spar hoods= wallets for old white five pound notes.
Wafer thin and weighs next to nothing!!!

FlameHairedFalconer
19-07-2005, 08:24 PM
I have used a small sprung hair clip (they type that you use a finger a thumb to pinch together to open - but then closes by itself) This is sewn into the back of the hood in the gap where the braces normally go.

This I found was very useful for spars as it closes the moment you release it, thus the spar/musket cannot then flick it off before you get the chance to draw the braces. Obviously it is more like a rufter hood, and sits on the head more friction tight, so the spar/musket cannot be left unattended with it on, but it provides a useful tool in the training process and can later be replaced with an ordinary hood.

FHF

Tim Laycock
19-07-2005, 09:52 PM
If a hawk is trying to throw the hood when it is being put on it is either an imprint or is not been made with the hood correctly-or both!
"Helping" to get it off is to be expected but a hawk that will not stand to the hood is being bobbed without doubt.

I despise anything to do with operating hoods mechanicaly
If it works for you then cool 8)
Personaly I cannot abide the notion :x

Matt
19-07-2005, 10:00 PM
hello every one thanks for the offers and advice . i talked to griff today and he carrys a musket sized anglo hood.
as i said to him i dont think i realy need a hood after all this because he is fine being handeled for the through and jumps on to the scales him self but as was the case this evening , i needed to cast him to change leg gear and ad a tiny tail bell. this is realy all i think we will need one for . still an esential peice of kit though as i was forced to use an un braced dutch that i made .it fits his head but the gape is **** and i think if braced would pinch badly.
all the best and keep the sugestions coming matt and co.
p.s. he is sitting good as gold on my left hand as i type with my right. he reminds me of a little bird i had last year called loco

FlameHairedFalconer
25-07-2005, 08:18 PM
I despise anything to do with operating hoods mechanicaly
If it works for you then cool 8)
Personaly I cannot abide the notion :x


Excuse me if I view braces as a 'mechanical' way of operating a hood...

FHF

Tim Laycock
25-07-2005, 08:38 PM
Excuse me if I view braces as a 'mechanical' way of operating a hood
Thats quite alright. It does not realy affect me.

mechanically
A adverb
1 mechanically

in a machine-like manner; without feeling; "he smiled mechanically"

2 mechanically, automatically

in a mechanical manner; by a mechanism; "this door opens mechanically"

I just find the closing and opening of hoods with a metal clip distastefull.
I get a sense of occasion every time I strike and un-strike the braces of my hawks hood.
If you are happy with whats achieved by you and yours there is no need to make your excuses.

FlameHairedFalconer
25-07-2005, 09:40 PM
Excuse me if I view braces as a 'mechanical' way of operating a hood

I get a sense of occasion every time I strike and un-strike the braces of my hawks hood.
If you are happy with whats achieved by you and yours there is no need to make your excuses.

Thats obviously where we differ then, as I am not interested in the 'sense of occasion' just the hunting and the hawks.

Oh and its strike and draw the braces I think you will find, but then I suspect you dont really care what anyone else has to say. Especially if you find what they are saying 'distasteful'

Tim Laycock
25-07-2005, 09:43 PM
Thats obviously where we differ then, as I am not interested in the 'sense of occasion' just the hunting and the hawks.

Then more fool you for not savouring the "Full flavour"

Oh and its strike and draw the braces I think you will find, but then I suspect you dont really care what anyone else has to say. Especially if you find what they are saying 'distasteful'

Correct. How very astute of you.

OutFlying
26-07-2005, 12:15 AM
BB,
Very sharp reply. Concise and to the point.

Tim Laycock
26-07-2005, 12:34 AM
I try. :wink:

FlameHairedFalconer
27-07-2005, 10:27 PM
Christ - I'll not bother posting a response to someone asking for advice in the future if this is the type of reception I'm going to get.

So nice to be welcomed to the forum in this manner, thanks guys :-* :?

Tim Laycock
27-07-2005, 10:54 PM
There is no need to take this tack.
You have already been welcomed to the forum on a different thread.
I believe thr old adage of "If you can't stand the heat" etc etc applies.
Dont go off in a huff FHF.
It will benefit nobody.
lets close the book on this episode :| :wink: