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Athene
16-06-2009, 01:34 PM
I've looked it up with the search tool but havn't found it. Who, when, where was the first to reproduce BOP's in captivity?

Regards,

Enrique



FalconGriff
16-06-2009, 04:17 PM
I understand the first hibrid was by the Hon Johny Morris in Ireland Natural breeding Saker / Peregrine
DeadDogs
16-06-2009, 05:53 PM
Was Waller not before him Griff,thought he bred Peregrines in Germany ?
FalconGriff
16-06-2009, 06:03 PM
Yes but I think he only bred pure not hybrids?
DeadDogs
16-06-2009, 10:58 PM
Yes but I think he only bred pure not hybrids?

Wish I had read the question correctly !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Falcon911
17-06-2009, 12:18 AM
You did!!
TLDWB
17-06-2009, 07:47 AM
There is no mention of hybrid in the question.

Tom
KenG
17-06-2009, 08:21 AM
who brought the first Harris Hawks into the UK & when.
Longwing Rick
17-06-2009, 08:26 AM
I've looked it up with the search tool but havn't found it. Who, when, where was the first to reproduce BOP's in captivity?

Regards,

Enrique

I believe it was in the late 1960's in the UK but not sure of who.
BarbaryHawking06
17-06-2009, 08:27 AM
as far as my knowledge goes, peregrines were first ever bred by Renz Waller during the war in 1943, but I can imagine that some BOP like kestrels might have bred earlier in zoos and the like. Curiously Waller writes at that time that young reared in captivity will never take the place of wild taken ones as he reckons them to be reared on a second class diet compared to wild ones and that they will never ever reach the flight power of a late taken passager.
FalconGriff
17-06-2009, 02:14 PM
who brought the first Harris Hawks into the UK & when.

Fairly sure it was John Bell Irvine BFC member from Scotland. We all thought it was a joke!!
FalconGriff
17-06-2009, 02:16 PM
Thats the earliest breeding of Peregrines that I have heard of
BarbaryHawking06
17-06-2009, 02:59 PM
just re-read the book of Waller, the first captive breeding of peregrines was in 1942, they had have fertile eggs since 1937 but in a different pair, here are pics from the book:
BarbaryHawking06
17-06-2009, 03:33 PM
I understand the first hibrid was by the Hon Johny Morris in Ireland Natural breeding Saker / Peregrine

also mentioned in the edition of Wallers book must have been 1971 a tiercel and a falcon as a result of a tiercel peregrine of Ronald Stevens and a Saker falcon of John Morris
TiercelMan
17-06-2009, 03:59 PM
Fairly sure it was John Bell Irvine BFC member from Scotland. We all thought it was a joke!!

You're right Griff. I saw one of them catching rabbits and flown by Ann, John's wife in 1971 on returning from Oz.
Also the first peregrines bred in the UK were brookei's bred by Len Hurrell. I was lucky enough to have one of them the following year,
Alistair
BarbaryHawking06
18-06-2009, 07:08 PM
Thats the earliest breeding of Peregrines that I have heard of

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