Telemetry Mount

[Raptor Experience]

Hi, i've just finished cutting the dye to produce these tail mounts, i know other places sell them but i think they're pretty extorsionate at. 3.99 each so i bit the bullet and cut a dye to machine them in our workshop. if i could ask you for a bit of feedback on them before i make the first 100. i'm looking at selling these for around 2.50. thanks for your help.

http://raptorexperience.net/images/plastic_tailmount_with_clip.jpg

[Tooker]

I use a guitar plectrum, cable ties and a brass tail mount holder which i glue/cable tie to the plectrum. Done.

[Raptor Experience]

I use a guitar plectrum, cable ties and a brass tail mount holder which i glue/cable tie to the plectrum. Done.

in the old days i used allsorts, tupperware lids cut out, leather plectrums, guitar picks, i got sick of the bell falling through the deck feathers and these seem to fall through alot less. are you saing there not worth £2.50?

Ray

[Cadam]

look good to me mate 2.50 bargain:supz:

[Tooker]

No, £2.50 seems like a good deal. Will it be possible to attach a bell to it?

[Raptor Experience]

look good to me mate 2.50 bargain:supz:

Thanks mate, my goal is to make all equipment affordable, if i can carry on with low manufacturing costs and still produce top quality, i'm happy and hopefully so is everyone else. i remember paying over the odds when i first got into falconry and it smacks a little to the newbie.

[Raptor Experience]

No, £2.50 seems like a good deal. Will it be possible to attach a bell to it?

yeah use a leather bewitt. like you would any other plectrum. i'll put some more pics up later.

[Raptor Experience]

No, £2.50 seems like a good deal. Will it be possible to attach a bell to it?


sorry its a bit blurry, but here ya go

http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/picture.php?albumid=644&pictureid=1615

[Tooker]

Oh I see. It looks good. Would you make different sizes depending on the bird?

[Raptor Experience]

Oh I see. It looks good. Would you make different sizes depending on the bird?

yeah eventually, but it takes a while to tool up for making dyes so i went for the most popular size but these are suitable for HH, pere or similar and bigger

[KevGem1]

very good and a good price, just abit of input if you dont mind the little wings that are on it would worry me if your bird is inclinde to crash in to cover for obvious reasons. Also it has to be long enough so as the tellem spring clip dosent get fowld by the leather that attaches the bell. hope you dont mind a bit of input atb KEV.

[Raptor Experience]

very good and a good price, just abit of input if you dont mind the little wings that are on it would worry me if your bird is inclinde to crash in to cover for obvious reasons. Also it has to be long enough so as the tellem spring clip dosent get fowld by the leather that attaches the bell. hope you dont mind a bit of input atb KEV.

thank you, your comments are noted, i think these wings are no more a hazard in undergrowth than the actual bell or transmitter. and are there just to stop the whole thing falling through the deck feathers. i dont see any reason why in the future i cant make them without the wings for those who prefer. please see picture. ATB Ray

http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/picture.php?albumid=644&pictureid=1632http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/picture.php?albumid=644&pictureid=1633

[Falcon Vitamins]

Ray will you put me down for 2 please and i will see you at the show.

cheers mate

[Steve.T]

looks like a great bit of kits..

[Raptor Experience]

looks like a great bit of kits..


Cheers Steve, i'm still looking for dyes for the closing pliers, i haven't forgotten.

Ray

[Steve.T]

i got the screw ones now bud,8mm 12mm 16mm;)

[Raptor Experience]

i got the screw ones now bud,8mm 12mm 16mm;)

they are better, nice one i'm looking for a supplier of these as i've always prefered them.

[Steve.T]

i got them of ebay for 12 quid....

[KevGem1]

ray would it be poss to make the wings a bit smaller?if so i would be more than happy to have a few off you cheers KEV.

[Raptor Experience]

ray would it be poss to make the wings a bit smaller?if so i would be more than happy to have a few off you cheers KEV.

its not possible to make a couple because its expensive to tool up to make the mould. if these prove to be popular then i will make a smaller version. i can perhaps hand make a couple of smaller ones for you but they wouldn't be injection moulded. i'm happy to do that if you want.

Ray

[Steve.T]

kev.

i am sure you could file the wings down to suite mate.....

[KevGem1]

iam shore i could,but i thought if he can make them that way all the better atb KEV.

[FalconGriff]

Without seeing one in my hand I would have mounted the transmitter mount a bit higher so that the body of the transmitter was on the mount. If it helps, if you send me one (I'll pay for it!) I'll put it on a display bird where it gets hard daily work and give you some feedback??

[Raptor Experience]

Without seeing one in my hand I would have mounted the transmitter mount a bit higher so that the body of the transmitter was on the mount. If it helps, if you send me one (I'll pay for it!) I'll put it on a display bird where it gets hard daily work and give you some feedback??

I will certainly do that cheers, i start a run of them next week whe the di is fitted to the injection moulder. the reason its set at that hieght though is to give enough clearence for the bell, but i'll get one off to you and get some feedback from you,

[FalconGriff]

I will certainly do that cheers, i start a run of them next week whe the di is fitted to the injection moulder. the reason its set at that hieght though is to give enough clearence for the bell, but i'll get one off to you and get some feedback from you,

Look forward to getting it address from our web www.welshhawking.co.uk

[Pearl]

i use hairspray lids cut to size as they have a natural concave to them and hug the tail so dont stick out , :cool:

[Raptor Experience]

i use hairspray lids cut to size as they have a natural concave to them and hug the tail so dont stick out , :cool:

i like the idea, but i havent had any hair since the 80's LOL,:lol:

i like the concave idea i would have to find a way of making it fit a variety of birds though, i made one for a friend with a goldie, but they are also used on a male harris. perhaps i could work on something a little more flexible.

Cheers for your thoughts though mark.

[Pearl]

i like the idea, but i havent had any hair since the 80's LOL,:lol:

i like the concave idea i would have to find a way of making it fit a variety of birds though, i made one for a friend with a goldie, but they are also used on a male harris. perhaps i could work on something a little more flexible.

Cheers for your thoughts though mark.your welcome mate , they fit very well you only need a slight concave :yawinkle:

[Welsh-Dragon]

when can i get hold of one of these mounts,
cheers
steve

[Raptor Experience]

when can i get hold of one of these mounts,
cheers
steve

Hi Steve, i'm hoping to have the first 100 done for the festival of falconry, you can come and see me there or i can post it if your not going, but i will post on here when they're done. ATB Ray

[Little Joe]

Looks nice mate. But lose those wings at the bottom. They seem like they will interfere with the feathers adjacent to the decks. (If it falls through your bird has broken deck feathers :lol:) BTW, small cable ties with a bit of epoxy works better than leather bewits these days.

[Nemesis]

looks good what is the size of it and how far do the two bits at the bottom stick out thanks dave

[Welsh-Dragon]

Hi Steve, i'm hoping to have the first 100 done for the festival of falconry, you can come and see me there or i can post it if your not going, but i will post on here when they're done. ATB Ray

Great thanks Ray

cheers
Steve

[Raptor Experience]

looks good what is the size of it and how far do the two bits at the bottom stick out thanks dave


they're 55mm wide so they sit on top of the tail feathers without falling through, but not too big as to get in the way or be uncomfortable, i've used this design for years, i've cut them out of allsorts in the past. i will be making them for smaller birds in the near future.

[John Soulsby]

I have used an almost identical pattren for years without any problem. However a few years ago I removed the "wings" and to be fair it made little or no difference to the performance of the mount.

John

[Dorset Shortwing]

Looks nice mate. But lose those wings at the bottom. They seem like they will interfere with the feathers adjacent to the decks. (If it falls through your bird has broken deck feathers :lol:) BTW, small cable ties with a bit of epoxy works better than leather bewits these days.

yes mate i agree as i think you get a closer fit to the deck's than with a bewit, so slightly less chance of anything getting snagged under this mount or plectrum ,tupperware or whatever is used

[Raptor Experience]

yes mate i agree as i think you get a closer fit to the deck's than with a bewit, so slightly less chance of anything getting snagged under this mount or plectrum ,tupperware or whatever is used

if you have different methods of fitting them thats cool, i'm slightly old fashion, a bewitt lets the bell sit slightly more relaxed to give its full volume, but ive never had any problems with this shape falling through tail feathers. the wings really do prevent that. ATB Ray

[Wanzap1]

good job at £2.50... I would take a couple...

[Dave G]

i brought a couple of years the other year from the falconry fair carnt remember who was selling them but was more than £2.50 think they were £3.50 ??

[Raptor Experience]

i took 100 of these to the festival and they proved popular, i only brought 28 home with me, so i've started working on a smaller version. cheers to everyone who bought them. They'll be on the website soon. ATB Ray

[SSL]

http://raptorexperience.net/images/plastic_tailmount_with_clip.jpg

Used a similar one for a couple of seasons, they are a pain in the arse, they flip up when the hawks flying so the tx ariel is like a flag mast sticking up in the air, asking to be wrapped around something.

The tx mount wants to be higher, and you could cut off the rest from where your tx mount is now.

I know lots make and use these but you did ask for opinions.

[CanadaManada]

Here's an idea - you could make a 2 transmitter backpack mount. Nobody is marketing one right now and there is a market for them.

Justin

[Pitbull]

Here's an idea - you could make a 2 transmitter backpack mount. Nobody is marketing one right now and there is a market for them.

Justin

I would have thought those that use 2 would prefer to have them in different locations, i.e tailmount and backpak,

[Bateleur J]

I would have thought those that use 2 would prefer to have them in different locations, i.e tailmount and backpak,

trouble is if it 'drops off' (highly unlikely, but **** happens) you've lost your bird :( atb Jakk

[SSL]

trouble is if it 'drops off' (highly unlikely, but **** happens) you've lost your bird :( atb Jakk

hence fitting a second in a different place.

[Sean D]

ray would it be poss to make the wings a bit smaller?if so i would be more than happy to have a few off you cheers KEV.

Could you trim them to suit

[CanadaManada]

trouble is if it 'drops off' (highly unlikely, but **** happens) you've lost your bird :( atb Jakk

Now why would a backpack "drop off" in flight?

[Raptor Experience]

Could you trim them to suit

Yes sean i could trim them to suit, but they proved so popular at the festival and from web sales i'm currently cutting a dye to make smaller ones. should have the first 100 done in a week or so.

Ray