Trolley System For Falcon?

[OhMyGod]

I am constructing a new weathering instead of a mews.

I intend (during the flying season) to keep the bird in the weathering 24/7. I will have double doors on the front which I will open in the morning and close at night, instead of putting the bird in the mews every night and bringing her out every day.

The trouble with this is she will not be getting sunlight and this will not do, so I have been thinking about using a trolley system. I have seen this before with eagles and gos but never with longwings, my problem will be that the block ( outside the weathering ) will not be safe to use due to the nature of the trolley so I have been considering the bow with the centre closed off to stop tangling.

I would really appreciate some input from ANYONE who has an opinion on this, or some different ideas on how I can keep my falcon in the weathering 24/7 and still give it sunlight and shade.

[PeregrinesUK]

they use the trolley in europe for all birds including longwing it is not only for short/ broadwings it looks like a good system

[OhMyGod]

yes but it means I can not use a block due to tangling, I would have to use a bow perch?

[PeregrinesUK]

whats wrong with the use of a bow? or maybe if you place the block 3/4 leash length infront of the wire line there would not be enough rope for him to tangle on or straddle the block?

[OhMyGod]

yes, thanks, I have considered these options and think the bow is my safest option hear.

Just think my pere/saker will look a bit daft sitting on a bow all day. But I guess it doesn't matter too much.

How do you keep your longwings weathered PeregrinesUK? do you peg them out on the lawn when it's not too hot.

[PeregrinesUK]

yes they are generally on blocks on the garden weathering but occasionally i have put birds on bows for a change ive seen terry large do this as well at shows the birds dont seem to mind and if you have a shelf at the back a bow at the other end would be good for her feet. the bow is by far the safest optionas if you tied her to long one day youd have problems

[OhMyGod]

quite!

I have always used shelf perches for the weathering. It is very important for me to have safe tethering practices. ie loop leashes and shelves and well designed blocks for temporary measures only as I am not always around all day.

I'll suss out my trolly, just means I'll have to use a bow. thanks mate

p.s. Just checked out your website whilst looking if you had any birds in your gallery. Looks like a pro setup you have mate. What longwings do you use to take gulls?

[PeregrinesUK]

i have an imprint female pere im training at minute for gulls and crows and a couple of pere sakers and a pere lugger i mainly fly crows theres never any gulls on my landfill site im to blo*dy good!! hope the trolley works id be interested in seeing a pic when you get it set up i fancy trying it with my gos

[OhMyGod]

no probs, I'll put a pic up when it's done if you like. I havn't even started yet as my rook hawk it going onto ducks this season instead, and so isn't out the pen yet. She took about 50 rooks in her first season (2004). but it is a right mission finding the slips unless you're on a tip. I used to drive miles and miles looking. I know what you mean about gull slips. You're there to do a job not fly gulls all season.

[BlueHawk]

no probs, I'll put a pic up when it's done if you like. I havn't even started yet as my rook hawk it going onto ducks this season instead, and so isn't out the pen yet. She took about 50 rooks in her first season (2004). but it is a right mission finding the slips unless you're on a tip. I used to drive miles and miles looking. I know what you mean about gull slips. You're there to do a job not fly gulls all season.



You should have trip up to Scotland OMG, Crow central here on the West Side.

Can I ask, did you go at all corvids or stick just to rooks? We have a lot of magpies here and I know they're slippery but would love to have a crack at them with my m. peresaker. But it is his first season, do you think I should wait until he has a few seasons under his belt?

Regards

Gareth.

[GoneHawking]

I will be trying my PerexPrarie tiercel at them this year, but I think it will be bloomin hard work single handed.

[Jack Merlin]

I'll have to use a bow.

No you won't. Try an old car tyre!

Cheap, simple, the birds like it, it's tangle proof, and it works.

JM

[Mary Quite Contrary]

I'll have to use a bow.

No you won't. Try an old car tyre!

Cheap, simple, the birds like it, it's tangle proof, and it works.

JM


warm welcome back jack

[Jack Merlin]

warm welcome back jack


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[OhMyGod]

thanks jack, I will seriously consider it.

Bluehawk
I only slipped at rooks I'm afraid, she did chase some black headed gulls once but there was no way, too small. I had lots of oppertunities at magpies but didn't slip her. She is too big really, she ended the season at 1050g, that's 2lb 5. If she were a male pere/saker I would have. At the end of the season I fully intended on getting her onto gulls strait away after a half dozen rooks, but things change. She is a beautiful blue colour now though.

Somtimes when flying these sort of male hybrids ( pere/saker pere/prairie ) at magpies it is better to slip later in the season when they are a bit more clued up as you will get a much better success rate by trying a non direct persuit as opposed to direct persuit. If the tiercel can get close sneaking up on the magpie from a good distance away just cruising along the ground unseen you may stand a better chance of getting them in the open.

But of course that depends where you are, we can't all live in scotland.

[Mary Quite Contrary]

warm welcome back jack


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i see your doing a drive by then

[PeregrinesUK]

i was watching nick foxs fitness training vid and theres a shot of a falcon on a trolly with a block at far end insted of using bow or tyre guess it can work? i guess youd just use short jesses to prevent straddling

[OhMyGod]

I'm not too woried about straddling.

I'm concerned that the leash will go round the block and prevent her from going back inside.

I have to give enough leash for her to bathe and feed etc.

[Tim Laycock]

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