Washed meat???

[Wilfred]

about washed meat...i saw it mentioned again in some other threat and want to know now....what it is exactly?

So please could the falconers who ever used it tell about it...what kind of meat they use for "washing", how cold or hot the water is, for how long they wash it and in which way, when it is used during how many days and as many details as possible about the advantages of using it and how it all works and so.

Reason i ask is since i actually did not use washed meat myself any time. But i think many persons who do might misunderstood what it is and how to use. Maybe the correct ways is explained in gamehawk of turner and haslen but like i said i did not try in practise before.

So please respond as much as possible so we can learn from each other on this also.

Besides this, i just want to mention that some friend of mine told me he did feed his falconry birds ostrich meat when he wanted to get weight down but still giving full crops. Any other good meat for that besides rabbit meat??

[Jastreb]

Washed meat is good is you want to reduce weight of your hawk and you don't want to skip flying and eating.
One exam how I do that from time to time:
If my gos is on higher weight, I skinn chicks(3-4 DoCs), take out guts and cut heads and legs. Then I wash DoCs few times until whole blood goes out and then I leve them in the water (3 dcl) whole night. Next day you can fly your gos with that meat, or you can do high jumps. In that case he is exercising and he will loos his weight.
Cheers Jastreb

[Shikra]

Hi Wilfred,
well as far as i know and feeding washed meat, dont ever wash meat with hot water, and wash till u loose guts...and u can feed it after 10-15 mins as it gets bit dry...one advantage on feeding washed meat that, in ur birds body water level maintanes...think so :!: :)

[Goldie]

Wilfred, washed meat is simply fresh meat, preferably beef which is soaked in water for a couple of hours then squeezed and then repeated. All the juices are extracted from it and it resembles a pale piece of chicken, very light in colour, almost anemic like.

The object of it is to allow you to give your hawk a good crop of food which is rapidly digested and keeps the digestive organs working and at the same time doesn't put weight on.

In actual fact it reduces condition in the bird without it being starved.
It is a method best used when manning a new bird whereby the weight comes off and as the bird in turn wants to eat it responds to the training you are giving it but at the same time it is getting a larger reward at each step as opposed to being starved into submission as can be the case when only being offered the odd chick leg etc.

It is not something that should be done for any length of time and is better suited to larger birds with a slower metabolic rate.

[Shikra]

Well it is helping me out as well

[Mr_Colin]

Good points there Goldie, I wish I knew that when I started out with Willow as she was and still is a ganett

[M & J Raptors]

Wilfred, washed meat is simply fresh meat, preferably beef which is soaked in water for a couple of hours then squeezed and then repeated. All the juices are extracted from it and it resembles a pale piece of chicken, very light in colour, almost anemic like.

The object of it is to allow you to give your hawk a good crop of food which is rapidly digested and keeps the digestive organs working and at the same time doesn't put weight on.

In actual fact it reduces condition in the bird without it being starved.
It is a method best used when manning a new bird whereby the weight comes off and as the bird in turn wants to eat it responds to the training you are giving it but at the same time it is getting a larger reward at each step as opposed to being starved into submission as can be the case when only being offered the odd chick leg etc.

It is not something that should be done for any length of time and is better suited to larger birds with a slower metabolic rate.



well said Goldie, :wink:

[Falconer]

Wilfred, washed meat is simply fresh meat, preferably beef which is soaked in water for a couple of hours then squeezed and then repeated. All the juices are extracted from it and it resembles a pale piece of chicken, very light in colour, almost anemic like.

The object of it is to allow you to give your hawk a good crop of food which is rapidly digested and keeps the digestive organs working and at the same time doesn't put weight on.

In actual fact it reduces condition in the bird without it being starved.
It is a method best used when manning a new bird whereby the weight comes off and as the bird in turn wants to eat it responds to the training you are giving it but at the same time it is getting a larger reward at each step as opposed to being starved into submission as can be the case when only being offered the odd chick leg etc.

It is not something that should be done for any length of time and is better suited to larger birds with a slower metabolic rate.

Well said m8 :wink:

[Shikra]

Wilfred, washed meat is simply fresh meat, preferably beef which is soaked in water for a couple of hours then squeezed and then repeated. All the juices are extracted from it and it resembles a pale piece of chicken, very light in colour, almost anemic like.

The object of it is to allow you to give your hawk a good crop of food which is rapidly digested and keeps the digestive organs working and at the same time doesn't put weight on.

In actual fact it reduces condition in the bird without it being starved.
It is a method best used when manning a new bird whereby the weight comes off and as the bird in turn wants to eat it responds to the training you are giving it but at the same time it is getting a larger reward at each step as opposed to being starved into submission as can be the case when only being offered the odd chick leg etc.

It is not something that should be done for any length of time and is better suited to larger birds with a slower metabolic rate.

Hi, plz tell me that can we use Pigeons and Quails for the same purpose and method?

[Varmint]

It is a method best used when manning a new bird

I would agree whole heartedly with what goldie says with one notable exception!

For the first few meals avoid washed meat as it tastes less desirable to your young bird and when encouraging a bird to feed for the first time you want to use something which the bird tastes and more importantly enjoys to help build that initial bond?

It's very best use is when you are trying to reduce weight in a inter mewed bird to re start the season.

If your looking for a low calorie alternative in a new bird then rabbit is ideal.

You can wash quail and pigeon but they remain still fairly high protein?

Good luck!

[Falconry Equipment International]

I would agree whole heartedly with what goldie says with one notable exception!

For the first few meals avoid washed meat as it tastes less desirable to your young bird and when encouraging a bird to feed for the first time you want to use something which the bird tastes and more importantly enjoys to help build that initial bond?
agree with you here


It's very best use is when you are trying to reduce weight in a inter mewed bird to re start the season.

Yes so do I as part of my enseaming process, I do occasionally use rangle as well, but personally prefer a slower reduction in condition that you get with washed meat. I do also use it during the season , especially when the hawks have had warm blood on several consecutive days, a spell of mild weather etc etc to bring the condition of a hawk back to the way I like to fly them, ie toward the top of their weight range, but with condition drop[ping from high to medium , so that they fly wioth a greater sense of urgerncy and when the flush is called the stoop with a lot more determination. Dont forget I am talking peregrines here fols and gamehawking. Hope this makes sense & HTH