owl in a rat cage

[Bengal Owl]

i have found out of an owl keep-ed in a rat cage the person that told me about it and myself are now trying to talk him in to handing it over about the only thing i do know is the food is right with added vitamins the person that has this owl has had no training our read any books just went out and got it from a breeder so why is that some vet there buyer and others don't is it that some care and other don't is it a case off over breeding
with some or do they do it just for the money,
anyone that loves bird of prey would vet the person they sell to or give the bird to i just hope its not another young snowy that been sold and put in this state as there has been to many this has happened to,
is it not time something was done and government body's start to regulate
who the birds are sold to i just hope that there is no damage done to this bird and can join a home that it will be cared for properly

[Boobook]

That sounds horrendous.

As well as trying to get the owl re-homed could you find out who the breeder is and post their name on here? Sounds like they need some bad publicity :shock:

[CastleFalconry]

How bout the RSPCA?

I know we all have differences of opinions about them, however this sounds like they may need a call.

[Bengal Owl]

i am at the moment trying to get him to hand it over with out get the police or rspca involved, one thing i don't trust the rspca as have a lot to do with them with my work e.g rescues i go out for them but if all goes well i should have it handed over to me this week and will let you know how its going
if i find that it has been taken from the wild then i have to report it to the police wildlife officer and let him deal with it but first i got to see the bird and an A10 for it if none then i take its from the wild for witch i have informed work for witch we have a good chance to rehab it back using a soft release back to the wild

[Bubo]

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr let me at em :evil: :evil:

[Bod]

Is it a snowy owl?

[MickeyDredd]

Is it a snowy owl?

Hopefully not as he is hoping to release it, I think he simply said he hoped it wasnt a Snowy in his opening post.

Mike

[Dave G]

a friend of mine rescued a barn owl from a pet shop was on display kids prodding it looked in a bit of a stated so mate brought it off the fella as he has about 9 owls snowys ,bengals, african spotted,barn owls, it was a lovely little thing but had a couple of toes missing,i rehomed a pair of african spotted owls to jenny who runs the gentleshaw falconry centre

[Sprout]

If it is in a rat cage it is illegal. Legally a cage must be big enough for a bird to open it's wings in all directions without touching the sides. It is also illegal to release birds (barn owls) without a licence. Inform the police or RSPCA please.

[Bod]

Thats what I thought Mickey. Only ever seen one wild Snowy. That was Wainfleet in Lincolnshire 15 years ago. There was some suggestion that that was an escapee

[Bengal Owl]

here`s an update for this after a long talk with the guy and now having seen a photo of the bird its a little owl the cage is one of them indoor rabbit/rat cages, he has promised me that his going to hand it over with all paper work that he has on it by the end of the week and will arranger for me to pick it up

[Sprout]

Nice work

[SecretSquirrel]

good one matt! hope for a happier life for the little one.

[Bubo]

oh very well done.
bubo

[CastleFalconry]

Well done.

[Bengal Owl]

good news the little owl was hand over to me on saturday he/she has been checked over by the vet and for what he/she has been keeped in for all this time is doing well ajusting to new surroundings with a lot of more room to fly it has taken a lot of phone calls between myself and the last owner but at last its settled in and this week the aviary will be built for it given it more room
will put some photos up once in the new aviary

[Talon]

good man mattG........ :supz:

[Albie]

Hi there Matt, and well done Sir with the Little Owl.
Please could you tell me cause I'm curious to know about your Avatar, is that a Blond faced Indian Eagle Owl that you have there?
Albie.. :wink:

[Bengal Owl]

Hi there Matt, and well done Sir with the Little Owl.
Please could you tell me cause I'm curious to know about your Avatar, is that a Blond faced Indian Eagle Owl that you have there?
Albie.. :wink:

hi nimbus yes he is a blond faced and he was a rescue as well after a year left in an aviary with no contact with anyone now comes on school talks with me just training him for free flying,
best owl that anyone could ask for just needed time and training

[Sprout]

Nice one

[Arthur]

Heyah Sprout,
is it Blond Faced or Blond (pale ) phased ....
i thought that i had cleared this up with Nimbus and H.M. a while ago and as there has been a 're-naming' of the Bengalese to Indian have they gone back to 'faced' ...
regards ,
arthur ,
(*v*) ...

[Bubo]

hello arthur, depending on the list of names from books you are using the name will vary but Bubo bengalensis some use rock eagle owl others indian eagle owl. there are two different morphs the light phase and the dark phase not faced :wink: the difference being the background colour. hope this helps
bubo

[Arthur]

helloh bubo,
yes thanks ..
i was never sure if 'pale face' and 'indian' would be compatible :-),some sort of identity crisis there ...

regards ,
arthur,
(*v*)...

[Albie]

Hi there Matt,
Many thanks for the info, I too have Finley and he is blond I shall be retraining him to fly free in the next week or so.
He has all but finished his moult and is looking Ansome..
I was told by someone at the IBR that the powers that be are now calling these Owls Indian because (there is no place in India known as Bengal?)
Crazy I think..
Albie.. :wink:

[Bengal Owl]

Bangladesh meaning The People's Republic of Bangladesh (Bangla: is a country in South Asia that forms the eastern part of the ancient region of Bengal. Bangladesh literally means "The Country of Bengal". Lying north of the Bay of Bengal, on land it borders India and Myanmar, and it is a close neighbor to China, Nepal and Bhutan.
its more to do with the politics of things i think India cover most of the area they living but still bubo bengalensis just English translation changed to Indian

[Albie]

As you say MattG,
All to do with politics, and I think I will still refer to my Finley as a Blond Bengal Eagle Owl.
As you already know.. the first question asked is.. what sort of owl and where does it come from.
Albie.. :wink:

[Bengal Owl]

hi albie
i still address benji as a bengal eagle owl and inform them that its name has changed to india eagle owl after it was found not to be a sub-spices of the eagle owl family but a spices
and just update the little owl now much happy with new surroundings jump around getting the slugs and frogs that go in there as well as chicks and mice, put a lot more bushes in there today so it has a place to hind and will extend the aviary for more flight space over the next couple of weeks photo will be posted soon of him or her but one step at a time

[Albie]

Hi MattG, I like to think Bengal sounds better too...
I look forward to the photo's of the Litle owl.
Regards,
Albie.. :wink:

[The Late Lord Lucan]

Once again, another muppet.
Show me to 'em guys and I'll give you all a good lesson on how to fit a person into a rat cage.......trust me it can be done. I just need to bring a bit of a tool kit with me!

[Wightwings]

any luck on the photos yet......

[Bengal Owl]

going to take some photos this weekend and post on here

[Bengal Owl]

here a photo of him i took at vets

[Hawkmaster]

i have found out of an owl keep-ed in a rat cage
What is wrong with doing this? Have you seen the rat cage? Some of the best breeders in the country have very big rate cages!

[Bengal Owl]

hi hawkmaster there was nothing wrong with it only the info give to me at the time this was going on was though others that's why after seen for myself the size of the cage and type of owl,
also it set alarm bells off the way the last owner keeped putting off and giving different story's himself for me calling a rescue this was not it was a re-home and the different story's was more to do with him trying to move house and re-home the owl as he didn't know who would take it from him so he asked family to help find someone eg his uncle who then passed the wrong info over to me so sorry if i got on the high horse just wrong info being passed on at the time

[Misty]

What is wrong with doing this? Have you seen the rat cage? Some of the best breeders in the country have very big rate cages!

I don't care how big the rat cage is, the owl should have been in an aviary:!:

[Jack]

From the picture it looks like a burrowing owl like we have around here. And a really young one too. When you see something that you feel is not right concerning a bird like that, make an offer to buy it from the owner. If you go starting trouble by calling the authorities and especially the RSPCA or who ever, you are just pulling the blanket over yourself as well. These people are begging for such things to use against you anyway. You have to learn to work together or leave it alone. You can start getting legislature on it and you will end up being one of the most regulated sports in the world, like us over here. Becoming a falconer over here is not so easy. You have to jump through all the burning hoops and you have to deal with a whole bunch of regulations. By making it hard for a certain group of people you might just make it just as hard on your own group. Yourself included. We see and hear people talking stuff and wanting regulations just like they themselves would not have it to deal with if it occured.
Having said all that, I have always wondered why in the world a person would even want an owl. They are practically useless for anything but feeding and looking at.

Jack

[Game & Pursuit Falcon UK]

What is wrong with doing this? Have you seen the rat cage? Some of the best breeders in the country have very big rate cages!

Come on HM you cant be defending this.

[Game & Pursuit Falcon UK]

They are practically useless for anything but feeding and looking at.

Jack[/QUOTE]

Youve just described a good 75% of all raptors kept in the UK!

[Leo 1]

That sounds horrendous.

As well as trying to get the owl re-homed could you find out who the breeder is and post their name on here? Sounds like they need some bad publicity :shock:

that is a good i dear.:supz: it is people like that ho give falconry a bad name

[Mark Collins]

Hi a local guy got prosecuted for keeping a wild kestrel in a budgie cadge , not only that but it was a shot one , its several years ago now , my mother has her own pet food round and was delevering to a customer , they told her that this guy next door had this bird in a cage in his conservatory because they had seen it , needless to say he got a visit , the bird went to a rescue centre and the git got fined and banned from keeping birds for 5 yrs , justice was done , cheers , mark.

[Fenlands Rescue]

I have rescued european eagle owls, sparrowhawks and kestrels from rabbit hutches.
Several kestrels in parrot cages, another that was found as a chick and kept in a shoe box with air holes, so confined its wings could not grow properly and would never be able to fly.
A little owl kept in a fish tank, a tawny owl thats wings had been cut off to "stop it flying away."
A barn owl put in a budgie cage as a chick and when it came to me I had to cut the cage from around it as it could not open its wings or obviously get out.
My eagle owl I use on displays spent its first 18 months in a high raise flat being used to guard someones drug supply as well as trying to avoid being eaten by their pit bull terriers. And too many more to list.
I do not say " nothing will ever surprise me " as it comes back and bites me on the bum if I do.
But remember each time i release a bird back to the wild it makes up for the sad times.
Well done Bengal Owl for saving that little owl.