Rabbit or kitten??

[Newbie FHH]

Does she know the difference? Does she even care???

But for future reference ...... how do you detach a HH from a kitten??

I can see this is going to happen one day. My neighbour's newest acquisition is a lovely kitten unfortunately for her, she is a very similar colour to a rabbit!!!! :shock:

Aggie was in the garden, so was the kitten, I saw it at the same time as Aggie she made her move but was nowhere near - I tried to get it out of the garden but couldn't do it without trying to go past Aggie! Someone walking past took the kitten off me and took it round to my neighbours!!

Aggie went mental trying to get at it though ............. if only she was as forceful when she sees rabbits!!! :lol:

[Game & Pursuit Falcon UK]

cats normally aint stupid enough to get close enough when they know a hawk means business. Detaching its the same as picking up off a kill, as long as you get there in time. My golden is a little brighter than the avarage Harris though. He likes to ignore the cat till its close enough. Happened once never again!

[OutFlying]

Newbie
Cover the prey with a cloth / hawking bag etc and offer an alternative reward on the lure or fist. It is a skill that you need to learn.

OF.

[Shaun Byrne]

For the sake of falconry, dont allow your bird to nail a kitten or anything else its not meant to. A cat has a right to roam, like it or not. If your bird nails it you will be to blame, like it or not.

[Wightwings]

no unless she is associated with the cats like my birds are she will not know the diff......you may find it mildly amusing but kitten out not if it manages to swipe back across the birds face it WILL loose and eye OR even asociate catching fur with pain and your bird is ruined....and if you dont know how to realase a bird from it prey your missing a fundamental skill...........i would also siggest you speak to your heigbours and advise them to "try" to control the kitten at least..........

[Kevin Massey]

use the hose pipe it works...failing that slap the kittens ass.....not hard mind u

[Fox]

Newbie, You should kill the kitten then you will not have to worry about it.

The only good cat is a dead cat.

[Wes]

For the sake of falconry, dont allow your bird to nail a kitten or anything else its not meant to. If your bird nails it you will be to blame, like it or not.


I'm assuming the cat belongs to nieghbor, if cat belongs to Newbie train with cat as said before.

I agree you'll maybe blamed. But I don't think it's Newbie's falt, the laws here many be different than there. Law states ; pets (animals) should be under owners control and or contained owners own property, it's called a "leash law"

"A cat has a right to roam, like it or not." -- quote from Hawka

I don't agree --Newbie's nieghbors animal should be on their property, not his, I'd have a talk with them about the danger to their cat running loose (nicely of course)! example- if their cat runs in front his car and causes an accident? it's neighbors falt and is responsable for damage to his car.

don't take this wrong, I do love and enjoy animals. but if a cat or dog comes on my property, I use a live trap and call the pound to pick it up . It will cost the owner a $$$$ fine to get it back. We have a large problem with stray cats in my area. they kill lots of wildlife, spread diseases and parasites as they are not native to my area. Sad but true-- a lot of cat owners don't take good care of their cats and just let them roam.
Wes

[Shaun Byrne]

Its a bit different over here WES.

Cats in the UK do have "a right to roam" ie a person cannot be prosecuted for their cat being on another persons property. If the cat is shitting on a neighbours grass its another story but what judge is going to give it court time.

[Newbie FHH]

Hawka - Don't worry, I will not let this happen, ever.

Fox - don't quite agree with you but this family have a house full of animals and perhaps shouldn't.

Wes/Mass - My husband suggested a stick my foot up the kitten's a**e and help it find it's way back home.

Wightwings - I do know how to get my bird off its prey - perhaps there was a different way to keep them alive!!?? Thanks OF

The older cats (from next door) and my cat keep their distance although I must say mine has learnt to be a bit quicker as Aggie has made a "pass" at her a couple of times!! :)

I did set out just to share this experience but have found it interesting how different people read things differently. Thanks for the comments though and I think I'll go and double check my fences!! :lol:

[Wes]

Its a bit different over here WES.

Cats in the UK do have "a right to roam" ie a person cannot be prosecuted for their cat being on another persons property. If the cat is shitting on a neighbours grass its another story but what judge is going to give it court time.

I'm not talking of a animal cat just s$!^ on the lawn, I'm talking about Newbie not being responseable for his nieghbor cats safety. What if the cat causes injury to his bird? is nieghbor responseable? what if cat scratches - damages Newbies car or any of his property?

Sorry Newbie, I'm not tring to take over your post, just don't understand law of the land there.

Wes

[Wightwings]

Wightwings - I do know how to get my bird off its prey - perhaps there was a different way to keep them alive!!??

fair comment Newbie :wink: :D

[Talon]

or get your self a dog which you can work with your bird.
and at the same time it can keep the cats out of garden.
i have the same trouble .too many cats about so when birds on blocks or bows i put my spaniel in garden .he fu**ing hates cats.

[Newbie FHH]

Ah you see the bird replaced our dog as we didn't want another one (ours was killed by some t****r in a car just before christmas) but since getting the bird we realised that a dog would come in handy, so we're currently training our 2yr old daughter to flush rabbits :lol: (just kidding)

I've spoken to the lass looking after neighbours pets whilst they are away and she is as worried as me (as the kitten went to other next doors and got pummelled by their dog!) so she is going to keep the kittens locked in a room and let them out when she is there to supervise. Should solve the problem short term anyway!!!

[Loopy]

Glad you have found a solution. I do sympathise with the situation as over the next year the amount of neighbours I have will rise from 2 to 23ish. My concern is not Cody catching something while we are out hunting in the area as he can usually be called off 'unsuitable quarry'. The problem lies with his ability to catch things whilst out on his bow perch on the lawn, he really does have a bit of a talent for it. We have asked our landlord for high fences and walls and I intend growing spikey things up them :)

[FlameHairedFalconer]

Newbie - you do need to ensure that she cannot get to the kitten or any cat, their bites are usually fatal as cat bites contain a lot of bacteria. Cats unlike rabbits have more spikey things to fight back with!

I like cats and have several (yeah I know...) but if I was in a situation where my hawk grabbed a cat my main aim would be to get the hawk off the cat without the cat injuring the hawk, not the cats safety.

Fortunately my cats know not to approach my hawks, through a process of 'foot up the @rse' training :)

[Wightwings]

Fortunately my cats know not to approach my hawks, through a process of 'foot up the @rse' training

pmsl :lol: .......now all about it......got two cats but dont tell the missus about the training........ :lol: