Leather Glue ???

[Coedhirion]

I made up some squirrel anklets and was very pleased with them, however I have a problem with the glue. I have tried several types, but by the time my Harris has jumped in the bath, the stream, the mud and I have added the usual large quantities of oil to keep them supple, the glue just isn't standing up to the battering. A few nice strong tugs with his beak soon has them in need of repair. Any ideas please.

[Coedhirion]

No hot glue and gun is too thick and messy, dont think its oil and water proof.
I thought the stuff I had was, but it isn't...let alone when a determined Hawk adds its beak to the equation

[OhMyGod]

someone told me of some leather glue that is supposed to be extremely strong. The longer it stays on the stronger it gets, apparantly. I think you can only buy it from saddlers but I can't remember the brand name. I'm sure if you phone a couple they will be able to sell you what you need.

[Harrisii]

hi there, i made squirrell chaps but had a similar problem with the glue thing. to be honest i reinforced the chaps and attatched the outer and inner layers with small eyelets, (5mm). this holds them perfectly and also adds as an added atraction for the squirrels to aim their bites at instead of the hawks legs, toes ete.
i aint sure of the design you are using so aint too sure if this would work with your chaps. hope this helps.

[Coedhirion]

The outer layer has nice shiny brass studs to attract the tree rats! I dont glue the anklet to the liner. I am not sure I fancy eyelets their teeth may fit through!! The liner has a fan shape over the toes which takes some punishment and the anklet has 3 rolled pieces coming down over the toe as well. These are the bits that cause the problem. The glue the saddler uses is the stuff that isn't holding up. Saddlers dont use a lot of glue most things get stitched. Ah well back to Araldite unless any one has any better ideas or brand names.

[OhMyGod]

sorry I can't be more help

hope you find a solution

Those tree rats are a good quarry for harris arn't they, nothing will fair better than HH on these. Sure RT do a better job on them, only if they get hold of them them though eh.

good luck!

[Coedhirion]

Who's idea was it to ditch the smilies on this fancy new web layout ????
Hope M J Hoods can come up with an answer, trouble is you dont leave hoods in the rain (well not sposed) and they get stitched on some too mmmmm???

[OhMyGod]

best get your thinking cap on I reckon, I'm sure you can find a solution.

Just remember those rats can be extremely dangerous if they happen make contact in the right ( or wrong ) place. That is why sometimes you hear people saying they should only be for RTs. The problem is HH are miles better at getting hold of them in the first place, just not worth taking the risk if you're not protected. Be safe, do a good job on your chaps and you will have a vet free season I am sure.

good luck

[Mary Quite Contrary]

febers saddlers bond is what you require

[Coedhirion]

febers saddlers bond is what you require

Thanks a lot .....But where from ???
I asked the local cobbler as they stick shoes dont they ??? when I said what it was for he looked quite scared as if I'd walked in with a BOP on the fist. He wasnt much help either!!!

[Saker-Clive]

Give Screaming Jay a shout, he's a master sadler and will give you the best info. he's probably got the glue you require :wink:

[Coedhirion]

Give Screaming Jay a shout, he's a master sadler and will give you the best info. he's probably got the glue you require :wink:
Havn't seen him on here for a while but will try him
And I found the smilies too :roll: :supz:

[Hood Master]

mabey gorilla glue:mrgreen:

no i think that any type of contact cement would work. just be cautious. apply with a Q-tip gently

[Barbary Boy]

personally i dont think glue on its own is enough,but "texas charlie"(on the web) has the answer if its glue your after.

[Coedhirion]

tried areldite again as I wanted to keep using the squirrel chaps and it isn't great, but it is only the 'rolled' toe pieces that are a problem. The rest works well and I find them ideal. Was worried they would rub as they cover so much of the leg and toes, but they appear to be fine and not as bulky as I thought they would be.

[Falconry Equipment International]

Havn't seen him on here for a while but will try him
And I found the smilies too :roll: :supz:
Hi sorry only just picked upon this. As previous poster stated I would suggest a contact adhesive such as evostik impact, However both surfaces need to be dry &oil/grease FREE( on certain leather you can 'kill' the grease by using acetone based thinners etc) fairly simple if you are sticking suede side to suede side, but if you are sticking self side to suede side, you will need to scratch the leather tohelp the glue to get a hold. Unfortunately there are many glues not available these days as a result of H&S that I used as an apprentice & they have carcenogens,toxins, hazardous chemicals ( 7& off course old bones!) thhat would have easily done the job. Other thing cD is that at the end of the day it may be best to stitch teh two layers together as almost any glue will not hold once oil/grease penetrates. HTH

[Coedhirion]

Thanks Screamin Jay. I tried contact ad. first and it was fine till water, oil and beak were added to the equation. It was suede sides together and I 'degreased' first, but once you start to use them they need oil like the jess.
the glue coming unstuck dosn't effect the strength or use of the anklets, I think it is mostly asthetics.

[Falconry Equipment International]

Thanks Screamin Jay. I tried contact ad. first and it was fine till water, oil and beak were added to the equation. It was suede sides together and I 'degreased' first, but once you start to use them they need oil like the jess.
the glue coming unstuck dosn't effect the strength or use of the anklets, I think it is mostly asthetics.
Hmm CD , much as I thought this would be the case, therefore only suggestion i have for you with use of modern adhesives, is to do what you did, but then sticth the two poeces together, , pref with linen thread ideally 25 or 35 x 3cord HTH

[Kornie]

im suprised a nice dollop of good ol super glue doesnt work? I find that stuff magical I tend to break a lot of things and it works on everything.

Take for example there was a hole in the hose, I thought just for a laugh to stick a leather patch on, this was like a year ago, and its never gave us any hassle after I was amazed. First I just stuck it on, then went round the edge really sparingly sealing it up. Worked for me, bonds anthing that stuff, espcially fingers :(

[Coedhirion]

Tried super glue on leather a few times, but it dries hard and is therefore brittle on things that bend. You have to have a flexible type of glue.

[Wilded]

Use barge cement or leather weld. Available at Tandy.

[Coedhirion]

thanks Wilded, trouble is, do I have a Tandy in Wales, bet there isn't will go look on net.

[Barbary Boy]

texas charlie in the us has everything like this i use him a lot hes on ebay, if you cant find him pm me and ill sort out his site for you,quick cheap delivery too.

[Wilded]

Barge cement is about $5.00 US here for a 2 ounce tube. If you can not find it there I will be glad to ship you some at cost. The postage from Texas to Wales is what will really cost. Here is Tandys web site
http://www.tandyleather.com/ I would see if a saddle or shoe maker shop could get it for you. Ed

[Pitbull]

Hi, Have you looked for gripsotex la 40 its a latex adhesive thats meant to be excellent. The other is the neoprene Gripdotite lt the other name thats meant to be messy but very good. Jakki

[Pitbull]

The gripsotite is really scary stuff so you won't be able to use it by the bird while wet. don't know about the other

[HawkinFun]

About the glue I have always used contact cement the same as you would use in putting together a formica countertop put a little on each side let it dry then stick them together

[Coedhirion]

Thanks every one, they look like they are staying together OK now, recon it is the mix of 3 types of glue thats done it!!