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Afshimo

25-09-2005, 10:25 PM

Hello!

One of my favourite topics lol. I've noticed a few more people on here with eagles so I've got sum Q's for you.

- What weight's do male/female goldie's fly at?
- In your opinion could a goldie (m/f) take out a deer/fox/hare/wolf (yes yes - I know some of these have been proved but other's may not have read about it and other's may want to learn more!)
- What gloves do you use with goldie's? Would you say it's thick enough? Is there an eagle glove you wouldn't mind trying out?
- Are imprint goldie's good birds to hunt and train? What about displays? Do they get harder to handle when they reach sexual maturity?

Just some Q's I've been dying to get answered! Thx very much!

ATB

HANNAH

Moses

25-09-2005, 10:36 PM

goldie is thee man, he has one hannah

Afshimo

25-09-2005, 10:38 PM

I hope he post's! Or I shall be PMing u lol :evil: :twisted: mwa-ha-ha-haaaa! lol. I'll go to bed.

Moses

25-09-2005, 10:46 PM

lol no worries nite nite :D

Addi

26-09-2005, 10:19 AM

Lanner Nut

26-09-2005, 06:12 PM

he can pick him up without a glove!

dont think id be doin that o_0

Afshimo

26-09-2005, 10:35 PM

k has a male imprint taking anything that moves including hare fox and small deer, had some exellent days hare hawking and when away from a kill, the best tempered eagle ive seen, he can pick him up without a glove!

Nice lol! any pics? Dont know if i remebered to put that in my first post lol

thx v much, atb,

HANNAH

Addi

27-09-2005, 10:13 AM

dont think id be doin that o_0

time spent mate .. if you met the bird you would realise, im off there later in teh week so iyl take my camera hannah

GoneHawking

27-09-2005, 02:13 PM

I'm sure whilst the Golden is relaxed it may be ok without a glove but what happens if it suddenly got excited by something and gripped tight, not really the situation you or your arm would want to be in.

Addi

28-09-2005, 10:04 AM

yep maybe, not my arm though ... i was mearly using it as an explanation of how well mannered the bird is even though it is an imprint

OutFlying

28-09-2005, 10:13 AM

yep maybe, not my arm though ... i was mearly using it as an explanation of how well mannered the bird is even though it is an imprint

That's seems a strange quote, why wouldn't an imprint be well mannered ?

Osiris

28-09-2005, 10:39 AM

I agree OF. Surely if a bird was an imprint, shouldnt it be well "mannered" anyway. Would love to see pics of the Goldie Addi?

Addi

28-09-2005, 11:06 AM

That's seems a strange quote, why wouldn't an imprint be well mannered ?

because of a lot of peoples preconception of the fact that imprints once sexually mature can be hard work .... as in the question asked in the original post!

OutFlying

28-09-2005, 11:53 AM

would this apply to a mature imprint when not in breeding condition ? is this preconception true or false in a correctly imprinted specimen ?

Yours Jim.

Addi

28-09-2005, 01:54 PM

depends on how the specimin was imprinted, when the bird comes mature and of a breeding age it can see its handler as either a mate that it wants to breed with or it can see the handler as a threat and deal with it accordingly, there has been a lot of badly imprinted diurnal birds of prey done in the past, especially eagles where the value is too high to risk any upsets whilest being reared by the parent, its these badly imprinted birds that have been agressive normally food imprints that have given them a bad name. Done correctly the oly time the eagle may be showing aggressison is when in yarrak ready to go out hunting or when on a kill

OutFlying

28-09-2005, 04:20 PM

Thanks for the answer, I could see why it might be aggressive on a kill but not why a normal social imprinted one would be aggressive without food or in breeding condition.

Yours Jim.

Addi

28-09-2005, 05:42 PM

as i said in the post above .. not all imprints are done properly (ie social imprint) and when not done properly can become total food imprints and display the agressive tendancys protraied in many peoples minds. If done properly then ur right, it has no reason to be agressive without food being invloved. There are too many people following the jemima school of the thought that an imprint of any type in a diurnal bop is the spawn of the devil and should be avoided at all costs. I was merely showing that when imprinted properly, there are no issues and can be favourable to a parent reared bird in certain species.

Not looking for an argument, just putting my two penneth worth in from the experience i have had.

craig

OutFlying

28-09-2005, 05:49 PM

Never felt you were looking for an argument, just wanted to know if a correctly social imprinted eagle would act different to any other correctly imprinted hawk. Your answer cleared this up - you are right to many people believe the rubbish spouted out about imprints being this and that, when in fact a correctly trained social imprint isn't aggressive etc when at the correct weight and not in breeding condition.

All the best Jim.

Jester

28-09-2005, 07:23 PM

if a bird is imprinted badly and turns out to be agressive/evil etc. can it be fixed or will it always be that way??

Osiris

28-09-2005, 11:33 PM

Gr8 thread. Really interested in Goldies at the minute and how imprint goldies work out...

Would like to know that to Jester.... :D

Barbary Boy

24-10-2005, 10:58 PM

Nice lol! any pics? Dont know if i remebered to put that in my first post lol

thx v much, atb,

HANNAH
i feel slightly silly but what advert is it? b/boy

Tomkuzma

25-10-2005, 12:18 AM

I've just spoken to my friend in the czech republic and he said that this year they fly mainly golden eagles at deer. i'm from the north of the czech rep. and before i came to UK i remember field meets with goshawks and "if" one or two g.eagles. This year, he said, just few goshawks and mainly g. eagles. lack of game such as pheasant and hare and plenty of roe deer give very good chance for golden eagles.
other friend fly a male and a month ago he finished with three deers and a hare in gamebag. not bad....

Barbary Boy

25-10-2005, 12:32 AM

why have you been dying to find out these questions?are you an anti? of course goldies dont catch deer or FOXES they prey mainly on little mice and things like that, they are great big softies really.

Blaze

25-10-2005, 01:20 AM

A freind of mine has a imprint male gos its very freindly n very noisey but when its on a kill n he trys to take him of he lunges with both feet at his face turns very nasty n protective.............If thats owt to go by i wouldnt want a goldie lunging at my face.....UGHHHHHHHHHHHHH !

OutFlying

25-10-2005, 08:18 AM

MickeyDredd

25-10-2005, 08:34 AM

I've just spoken to my friend in the czech republic and he said that this year they fly mainly golden eagles at deer. This year, he said, just few goshawks and mainly g. eagles. lack of game such as pheasant and hare and plenty of roe deer give very good chance for golden eagles.
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Hi Tomkuzma

are they also not switching to eagles as they can no longer wild-take goshawks in Czech Republic?

Tomkuzma

25-10-2005, 08:55 AM

Hi Tomkuzma

are they also not switching to eagles as they can no longer wild-take goshawks in Czech Republic?

it's one of the reason as well. i've been doing falconry for 11 years, i've flown few goshawks and have never paid...guess where they are from :-)))

JuliaK

25-10-2005, 08:06 PM

BFC 007

25-10-2005, 08:26 PM

:cool:
looks mighty fine

Tim Laycock

25-10-2005, 09:20 PM

How long did you manage to hold the eagle for?

It cant have been light! :lol:(Or was your arm on a post?) :wink:

HunterPaul

25-10-2005, 09:28 PM

shes 13.....:oops:

As The Falcon Her Bells

25-10-2005, 09:32 PM

Hi Interessting thread, i dont know that much about eagles, but am happy to put some in if it is of interest. I know of eagles, expecially Golden eagles who are very good imprints and well mannerd but who can, just as any bird, have a mood on, Personly I think one of the problems is that a eagle with a moody day is a bit more to handle than a moody falcon, harris etc. I have had hh trying to foot me, also my imprint peregrine can lash out sometimes if she dont want to be hooded, but really its never serious and no more then a scratch, however I flew a male goldie doing the same, not really grabbing seriously in his mind, but it was three stitches on me. So big birds caurse so much more damage, does not mean to say they are more agressivee. I also think that goldies can become a bit of a "one man bird" will fly great for the person its imprinted on, but can be funny with other people, as written earlier they can be agressive on kill and during breeding season, so really that means they could be agressive everytime they kill and constantly 3 month of the year?
I only ever flown two, a imprinted female and a parent reared male, both where lovely 99% of the time but they are moody, no doubt about it, on saying that my mate have one who is like a puppy, the nicest thing you can come close to (wild taken). I think that, just as all birds, there is no set rules at all, they are all individualls and have diffrent personalitys. But I would really never recomend a golden eagle to anyone unless they have a lot of experience, and I mean a lot. I heard that the temprament is diffrent depending on what area they come from (european diffrent from Mongolian, saudi etc) does anyone know anything about that?

Tim Laycock

25-10-2005, 10:01 PM

shes 13.....:oops:

I knew some one would see it before I realised :lol:

The fact that it was you does not suprise me HP :lol: :wink:

HunterPaul

25-10-2005, 10:06 PM

i saw it then checked her profile before flying straight in there...:wink:

HunterPaul

25-10-2005, 10:16 PM

the difference is bb is if we were in a club ...while i was trying to find out wether a bird is available where she livesetc ...you round the back exploring her tonsils....:P

As The Falcon Her Bells

25-10-2005, 10:16 PM

Right,as my first post went completle un noticed and ignored if I tell you that I have two big titts and a great ass, would you acknowledge me then?? :))

HunterPaul

25-10-2005, 10:19 PM

my address is....what post?????????????? joking...I found your post very interesting and would like to have your children, and who told you you have a great ass....

As The Falcon Her Bells

25-10-2005, 10:21 PM

The dog who bit it..........

HunterPaul

25-10-2005, 10:23 PM

pmsl......:P

Talon

25-10-2005, 11:07 PM

Right,as my first post went completle un noticed and ignored if I tell you that I have two big titts and a great ass, would you acknowledge me then?? :))

i would....

As The Falcon Her Bells

26-10-2005, 12:03 AM

ok, next time I write a post I'll attach a naked pic and see what response I get.......

Tim Laycock

26-10-2005, 12:21 AM

Sorry I missed your post, I was busy checking your profile :wink: :lol:

Talon

26-10-2005, 12:39 AM

we are still waiting for this picture..i hope it doesnt turn out to be a bloke.

Minty

26-10-2005, 06:14 AM

a falconer in germany has two golden eagles. a imprint and a old eagle, female.
here are pics, the golden eagle and me(6 kg, female)
http://www.directupload.net/images/050814/temp/A5RcHwxC.jpg (http://www.directupload.net/show/d/424/A5RcHwxC.jpg)

http://www.directupload.net/images/050812/temp/Qq9lk6K4.jpg (http://www.directupload.net/show/d/422/Qq9lk6K4.jpg)

please click on the pictures!

Nice picture.
I saw one in Kent the other day wondered if you could come over and have some 'Hands on experience':-D .
It keeps attacking the Giraffes in our local zoo!

MickeyDredd

26-10-2005, 09:10 AM

Addi

26-10-2005, 10:56 AM

pmsl ......

JuliaK

26-10-2005, 05:11 PM

the eagle weight 6kg :grin: i hold she for nearly 5minutes!

sorry my english isn't very good..i hope you understand me!i'm from germany..!!

JuliaK

26-10-2005, 05:18 PM

How long did you manage to hold the eagle for?

It cant have been light! :lol:(Or was your arm on a post?) :wink:
nono, not on a post! i worked for such a long time with eagles ;)
i hold the eagle FREE on my hand for nearly 5minutes!

MickeyDredd

26-10-2005, 09:03 PM

the eagle weight 6kg :grin: i hold she for nearly 5minutes!

sorry my english isn't very good..i hope you understand me!i'm from germany..!!

Just kidding, your English is fine

JuliaK

29-10-2005, 10:56 AM

new pics..:-D :grin: my father has made the photos..eagle and me..

http://www.directupload.net/images/051029/temp/Yg2nhX8Q.jpg (http://www.directupload.net/show/d/500/Yg2nhX8Q.jpg)

http://www.directupload.net/images/051029/temp/eB4NtPXS.jpg (http://www.directupload.net/show/d/500/eB4NtPXS.jpg)

JuliaK

29-10-2005, 10:56 AM

http://www.directupload.net/images/051029/temp/3cJ3S7zd.jpg (http://www.directupload.net/show/d/500/3cJ3S7zd.jpg)

eagles are very big.. i have very many respect..

Falconry Equipment International

29-10-2005, 12:13 PM

the eagle weight 6kg :grin: i hold she for nearly 5minutes!

sorry my english isn't very good..i hope you understand me!i'm from germany..!!
hi there, don't worry your english is better than most of our German!, your doing really well.ATB

HawkEagle

04-11-2005, 11:24 AM

One of my dream bird. I can only get mostly hawk eagles. Nothing the size and strength of golden. One day I'll get one.:supz:

MickeyDredd

04-11-2005, 11:33 AM

One of my dream bird. I can only get mostly hawk eagles.

Bummer eh?!!

Addi

04-11-2005, 12:07 PM

... pmsl @ md

Tim Laycock

04-11-2005, 12:55 PM

Hmmmmmmm!
Must be a right kick in the ******** :lol: :roll:

Peregrine960

06-11-2005, 12:41 PM

hungry golden

HawkEagle

08-11-2005, 06:27 AM

Did the eagle manage to kill that deer? Impressive indeed.

EagleMan

12-11-2005, 11:23 AM

what about this eagle.? she is a daphnea subspecies from mongolia and central asia .....poor wolf.....i'm curiois if an harpy eagle is capable of that
regards:supz:

Talon

12-11-2005, 01:47 PM

i think thats what they call the berkut. suppose to be the largest of the golden eagles